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Personally, I think this is fake. The price point of 1000,00 is ridiculous and would push people away from the tablet to the laptop. Why spend a grand on a half-computer ... that is why netbooks aren't 1000.00 people. Not to mention Apple expecting to rope people in with yet another service contract? No. Look for a 500.00 tablet, sold via Apple, with the option of added 3G via a 3rd party device.

Yeah I''ll stick with my $299 Dell Mini 10V
 
That's a pretty steep mark-up for not wanting a 3G plan.

Sure is and hard to believe if Apple plans on selling 10 million of them in the first year.

If all is true I'll stick with my kindle and wait for color e-ink to come out.

Lastly, I'll just buy the mac book pro which gives me a lot more bang for the buck. Either way it's a win win for me. --))))

PS: IM not into welfare mentality (subsidized products) ie: Contracts. I'll Pass TYVM --)))
 
It's not that hard to understand

$1000 - No contract, just use Wi-Fi
$600 - 2 year data contract. 3G + WiFi.

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Also, I don't know if this is common in the States, but in the UK a lot of high-street phone retailers often add laptops, PS3's, iPod touches and such as "freebies" to get customers in (because carriers put a premium on new customers).

It's not infeasible to picture some retailers getting creative and offering iPads with new iPhone contracts. I know a lot of folk who'd be tempted to switch carrier for that - usually the same people that buy three things in a supermarket because the forth is free.

Nothing's ever free, of course ;)
 
The fact that the Tablets you speak of are so wildly unsuccesfull is because they are crap at everything that they advertise as an advantage.
Exactly, which is why the world is looking to Apple to see if they can actually make a tablet that's relevant. In the past, "tablet" meant the full functionality of a computer in a form factor that's more mobile and lacked a keyboard. The question is, will Apple innovate and actually deliver one of those devices with a miraculous UI that has solved the "crap at everything" problem that has plagued all of the previous tablets before it, or are they going to take the easy way out and strip all functionality from it, leaving essentially a "big ipod" that of course works easily and seamlessly, but doesn't actually DO anything besides play back content. I really don't know, but if they're going to be aggressive with the pricing as some people hope, I highly doubt it is going to be a breakthrough technology device. I'd gladly pay more for a device that does more, but I honestly wouldn't put it past the Apple of today to go the "big iPod" route...
 
The price i am not to fussed about, truth is, if it has the features i want, my willpower will be too weak to probably say no, as for the name, iPad??, EPIC Fail!!!. Far too close to iPod and sounds like a tampon. How about some creativity??

Only a matter of time before you have to cut out 100x coupons from tampon packaging, send em in to receive your free iPad.
 
maybe you should hire a lawyer to read the real document for you.

you will be surprised when you find that it is only covered if it does not work from workmanship, not if hardware fails in 6 months out of the year.

stop reading stuff from uncredited sites and taking them to heart.

read the note at the bottom of the page....

Here is a good story from the Guardian (UK Newspaper) showing the law in effect and working - http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009/may/23/tesco-consumer-guarantee

No matter what anybody says here, 2 years is the law for consumer products in the EU - even for hardware failure.
 
I have no doubt Apple will deliver a fantastic device, however, as usual it will be way overpriced for what it is.

And I certainly am not adding any more to my phone bill.
 
what kind of contract? we already have phone contracts

agree - regardless of the true pricing structure of the device we can pretty much guarantee that there will be a significant deduction for signing a contract for a monthly service fee. it will be interesting to see how that fee compares to the price savings.

a phone without a voice plan is much less useful than a tablet without a cell data plan and so i can expect that Apple will try and make the cheaper cost of the product look so attractive that people won't think much about signing up for a new monthly service fee - because of the "savings" on the product purchase price.
 
Here is a good story from the Guardian (UK Newspaper) showing the law in effect and working - http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2009/may/23/tesco-consumer-guarantee

No matter what anybody says here, 2 years is the law for consumer products in the EU - even for hardware failure.

right, one story....great

how about some real citing of court cases?

the fact is....apple can make up any excuse to get out of that law (not that they would).

like...sorry...the machine has a scratch on the side....could have been dropped...negligence....boom , there goes the effectiveness of that law.
 
agree - regardless of the true pricing structure of the device we can pretty much guarantee that there will be a significant deduction for signing a contract for a monthly service fee. it will be interesting to see how that fee compares to the price savings.

a phone without a voice plan is much less useful than a tablet without a cell data plan and so i can expect that Apple will try and make the cheaper cost of the product look so attractive that people won't think much about signing up for a new monthly service fee - because of the "savings" on the product purchase price.

I wonder if it's a media buying contract of some sort. Pay USD 20 for x books, y mags and z TV shows included to get the subsidized rate. That's something that makes sense and works abroad as well.

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right, one story....great

how about some real citing of court cases?

the fact is....apple can make up any excuse to get out of that law (not that they would).

like...sorry...the machine has a scratch on the side....could have been dropped...negligence....boom , there goes the effectiveness of that law.

Maybe in North American courts. European courts are a bit more sensible than that.
 
You can roll your eyes as much as you like, but he's right. According to european law, we are entitled to 2 years of warranty by the manufacturer.
The 1 year warranty that you are referring to is the store warranty.

Sure, I referred to the one year apple warranty. Why not?

And the 2 Years wich you are speaking from is in german called "Gewährleistung". This has nothing to do with the manufacturer, only with your dealer. But if you buy a product directly from the apple store (for example in germany), apple is dealer and manufacturer at the same time.

When you buy a apple product from a different retailer like gravis (germany again) then you have the warranty wich you speaking from (gewährleistung) by gravis. And so on and so on.

You should now the facts. Lack of knowledge...

And for the rolling eyes, he said that the prices only depending on warranty. Everybody knows that he's not right. But lets stop here, this is anying.
 
This thread is brilliant. Everyone knows exactly how much the device should cost and how much it costs to build etc. without even having seen it and knowing what it consists of. The bottom line is that Apple builds superior products. Superior products cost more money. Without the higher margins Apple wouldn't be able to continue to fund R&D to build more superior products, only shoddy one. What is it about this basic business model that people on this site don't get.

If you don't like the high prices, buy something cheaper elsewhere. If you want a superior product with a better consumer experience cough up the cash.
 
I agree with the concept of using the cloud but I don't like to be tied to an specific carrier, I want options and freedom of choice, not falsely subsidized products that will be rendered useless way before their contractual ties are over.

Wasn't there an Apple patent application a couple of years ago about being able to pick out a carrier on the fly ? Oh yeah, here's a piece on it.

That article says the idea is that the device "... sends iTunes MVNO server it’s ID and location, and get’s back the information with the available networks, services and rates in the area. Then a user can manually select the best network for him, or the network operator can be dynamically selected by software according to specified criteria."

Perhaps they have that kind of choice in mind.
 
right, one story....great

how about some real citing of court cases?

the fact is....apple can make up any excuse to get out of that law (not that they would).

like...sorry...the machine has a scratch on the side....could have been dropped...negligence....boom , there goes the effectiveness of that law.

I certainly can not give you any court cases but I can give you a few examples.

The first one cost me money. We developed an all-in-one Internet security router that we sold across the EU and the US. We were obligated to fix or repair every device we sold for 2 years after the day we sold them in the EU. This was required from the distribution channel in order to comply with the EU law. In the US, if it broke after 90 days, they had to buy a new one.

Now on to the three times it helped me personally, we had a multi-function Brother printer that we bought at Saturn (Media Markt). It broke after 14 months. It wouldn't feed paper anymore. We had the receipt. Took it to the store, they replaced it with the latest model free of charge.

The second was a linux box we had its BIOS chip fried. We took it back to where we bought it (a major chain here called Conrad Electronics). They fixed it and returned it free of charge a day later.

The last was my first iPhone 3G. It fried after having it 8 days. It simply would not boot anymore. Not even the Apple logo. T-Mobile dispatched a tech out. Verified the phone was dead. Took it away and sent me a new one 4 days later.

Apple could try to reject the EU law but it simply wouldn't work as the retail store / telco is the one who does the replacement and has to honor the warranty. There is no way T-Mobile would accept being stuck with broken iPhones they can't sell so I can't believe Apple would not take them back from them.

Which brings me full circle to my original point, we pay more for any electronic in the EU because of the warranty.
 
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