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Apple iPad Pricing and Availability: $600-$1000, March 1st?
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It a fake:
1. Reason:
"Update 12:10 Uhr: Der Twitter-Account @Media_Markt_de ist kein "offizieller Account von Media Markt und die Meldung mit dem iPad ist ein Fake", so ein Pressesprecherin der Media-Saturn-Holding GmbH gegenüber fscklog.com."
"Media_Markt_de is not an official account of media markt and the announcement is a fake, a spokesperson of the Media-Saturn-Holding GmbH told fscklog.com."
2. Reason:
The "iPad" is offered with a complete L contract (120€!!!/month). The subsidy is too low for such a contract (i.e. the iPhone 3GS with 32GB is offered for 1€ with this contract). This contract is so expensive, because you can call everyone in Germany for free which is nonsense with a tablet.
1. Reason:
"Update 12:10 Uhr: Der Twitter-Account @Media_Markt_de ist kein "offizieller Account von Media Markt und die Meldung mit dem iPad ist ein Fake", so ein Pressesprecherin der Media-Saturn-Holding GmbH gegenüber fscklog.com."
"Media_Markt_de is not an official account of media markt and the announcement is a fake, a spokesperson of the Media-Saturn-Holding GmbH told fscklog.com."
2. Reason:
The "iPad" is offered with a complete L contract (120€!!!/month). The subsidy is too low for such a contract (i.e. the iPhone 3GS with 32GB is offered for 1€ with this contract). This contract is so expensive, because you can call everyone in Germany for free which is nonsense with a tablet.
If I was intending on typing for 2 hours on a plane i'd take a proper laptop. In my opinion a netbook is designed for 2 main purposes: e-mail and internet. Most company's take on this is the small laptop. Watching movies/listening to music is a bonus to this, but a netbook in my view is not a device for spending hours writing documents. The keyboard is way too small.
Apple's take on the netbook up until now has effectively been the iphone. The one drawback on it is that the screen is tiny and typed is massively limited because of that. Apple think differently to other companies because they have more imagination. They have realised that to fulfill the purposes of a netbook you don't need a physical keyboard. If you want that much power/flexibility buy a laptop. If you want that laptop ultra-portable but still usable buy a Macbook Air. If you want a netbook, get something with a touch screen.
Netbooks as the world has experienced them so far are a flawed concept.
Nope it isnt - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_rates_of_Europe
I doubt it that there are advertisement about 1 year warranty. Its always 2 years and it is prohibited to advertise something different. At least in my country....
Well, I'm in the market for a netbook for casual web browsing and IM and an e-book as a replacement for the piles of books my baby son is gnawing through on my study floor.
If this device can combine these functions at a price around £500 I'm in
But a Kindle costs $259 (USD)
It has FREE 3G connection
It has limited web surfing
Don't you think that someone soon will come up with a competitive device that fulfills your needs for cheaper than what Apple is reportedly going to sell?
I mean, if someone charges $400 for a super Kindle that has e-reader, plus IM/web surfing/email, and FREE 3G connection- no service fees- wouldn't that fulfill your needs? I have to think someone (Amazon?) will be releasing this soon to compete with Apple.
And one more thing
but still, can't they give us what *we* want, not what *they* want us to have?
If they did that they'd be giving you a quad core macbook pro with a 15" touch screen, squeezed into a 10 inch form factor, 1mm thin and able to fold it up and put it in your wallet for $0.99
Oh, and free gigabit internet access anywhere in the world.
Well that doesnt change the fact its 20% on average.
Ok please show me such advertising. Thanks.
You too. I leave it at that, but for a discussion is more as one person needed. As you see I was not the only one
Prediction: big kindle is $489. Apple device will be $699 and will feature free 3g connectivity.
I guess so, that's a good point. But how long did it take the rest of the world to catch up with the Iphone? 2 years? I personally am willing to pay a reasonable premium for something that a lot of thought has gone into, and from a company with a good track record of making things that "just work".
Not really. I pay less money for the product because its subsidized by the carrier. Then I'm paying for the data plan. ~$600
$1000 for unsubsidized without a contract/3G service.
3G isn't voice, its data. It's the carrier's fault to make people think otherwise. They shouldn't expect a phone, however you could simply have the 3G service and use a VoIP program like Skype.
Either way I'm impressed I haven't seen any concrete info on this tablet yet making this the best kept secret I've seen from Apple. Though unfortunately any information I have heard hasn't been very compelling at all. Everything seems to be pointing at a larger, slightly more complex version of an iPhone. I think that would sell, but it seems like just another me too product in the tablet category. Personally, when I think of tablets I think of it as a digital piece of paper. I'd like to see some pen input.
These are just my dreams, but all I want really is something to make a digital sketchbook.
No, we're saying how much we'd be prepared to pay. The point is that most of us have already coughed up for many Apple products, if you look at people's signatures. I laid out £2000 last year on Apple products and that's before I count other tech purchases. I'm a high earner, I can afford it. However, I don't waste money. I need to know this will fit into my life. That's the unknown factor until we see what Steve J is peddling tomorrow. We're all just trying to figure it out.
A superior product with a better consumer experience? I've bought plenty of tech from other companies both for work and leisure that has been well designed. Apple isn't the only game in town and not all of their products have been the unqualified success you seem to think. These sort of statements are why people hurl the insult 'fanboi' at Apple users. You might want to be a bit more discerning.
Buying Apple products doesn't make you special, better educated or wealthier. Some of their products are good and worth the premium, others are not.
I'm by no means a fanboi. I only have 2 Apple products, an iPod and a Unibody Macbook, both bought within the last year. As a developer I spend a lot of time working with various OS's and technology, and I'm talking from my experience of everything I see. I read a lot of complaints of Apple products being hamstrung or lacking in functionality. However, the interoperability of their product, in my experience, is second to none, and this is what Apple excel at. That, and simplicity, making a complex process seem very straightforward. This is only achieved with very careful design and A LOT of hard work, and that costs money. Further, what many people don't understand is that the reason Apple's products are so good is exactly because their functionality is more limited than other products. This makes them easier to use for the majority, rather than pandering to the minority.
I'm not being a fanboi at all, but I know a good company and a good product when I see one. I wish my company would invest what it takes to produce products to that level.
Well, I do understand your concerns even if i sense them being a bit remote
Apple seems of having prepared a lot of things upfront for that tablet:
Magic Mouse
Wireless Keyboard
Mac Mini Server
Time Capsule / Aiport Extreme
Apple TV
Now, how could fill a tablet the gap there? Yes, where the hell is there a gap?
If apple is really going for schools with that device you of course need a some kind of central server to manage / control these clients.
I think the most might agree that it is hard for any tablet to compete with a fully fledged (i)Mac / MacBook (Pro).
But still we believe apple being serious about selling millions of that thing to folks who most probably already have a PC/Mac and don't need another Computer yet.
So ask yourself, what would make you run (and not walk) to the next apple store to get it?
Remeber those questions before the introduction of the Iphone? "What the heck is apple thinking of making a mobile when everyone has already one and that one is probably better at doing things a phone should do? C'mon, really, what does a phone not have except a built in fridge, yet?" or the like.
So, actually apple didn't reinvent the mobile phone - but the way we use it.
Even in case i might repeat myself:
If you have a macbook, measure from top/left corner of the left shift button to the top/right corner of the M button and then on both sides down to the casing (towards you), so you have approximately the size of a device with only a 7" display, which might seem small but is prob. the biggest size you could use to be able to type in using your thumbs. Still, you could carry it with you as it is small enough to fit in the most inner pockets of a jacket.
I see the the prize for that one around $499.
It's going to be priced at $350. I promise
This was my thought. Give away the platform and make the money on the content. If the price of the device is a barrier to entry, then so many fewer people will be buying from the media store provided by the tablet. A low cost device will also be a good selling point to get book publishers, magazines, newspapers etc on board with providing content for the device.
Imagine if it was $249 for one. Everyone would get one!
It's not necessarily 20% on average if the figures quoted in a Wikipedia article are wrong. And at least one of them is.
From Apple's own site - England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales and France one-year warranty examples:
http://images.apple.com/legal/warranty/docs/110607iphoneFR.pdf
http://images.apple.com/legal/warranty/docs/iphoneuk.pdf
CDW 1 year warranty on an iMac
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1907647#WAR
Jigsaw24 1 year warranty on a Mac Pro
http://www.jigsaw24.com/Default.aspx?IP=&ITEM=JIGSMB871BA
But that surely means there are going to be massive compromises on quality, a la Dell. I thought Steve was against that? I thought the whole point was premium brand, premium quality (supposedly), premium prices.
How do we know its a good product? It's all just speculation. Good design may not mean good functionality, as you know.
I agree that their OS is a superior experience, that's why I pay for a MacBook Pro out of my own pocket, despite having been given a high spec laptop by my employer.
However, your argument really falls down with the assertion that 'the reason Apple's products are so good is exactly because their functionality is more limited than other products' which is, frankly, preposterous. The notion that a high end mobile is missing basic features such as the ability to MMS and Copy and Paste text (iPhone 2G) or that you buy a premium ultraportable with only one USB port (MacBook Air) or a high end laptop with no Blu-Ray (MacBook Pro). We compromise on features for the quality of the intuitive interface. We are paying in large part for design and marketing. Most of us know that.
Well you can look up quotas and calculate average, no problem there. Believe me its 20%... BTW can you please tell me which one is wrong?
Yeah but this is international warranty, you will be interested in this document http://images.apple.com/legal/warranty/docs/070808_iphone_Warranty.pdf. It doesnt substitute warranty valid in your country. But youre right it is wrongly advertised and can be misunderstood.
That is what I am sitting here worrying about. I would love to have this smaller item for far-flung travel, something lighter than my MBP, but what is going to protect the screen?
I think we actually agree on this point, maybe I just articulated it differently/badly. The point was that losing functionality is the cost of making a polished/easy to use product, and i was really talking about software, not hardware.
We don't know it will be a good product. I was going on past performance.
As you will see, i'm not a fanboi when I tell you I have a gripe Apple's philosophy. My experience/investigation tell me that if you subscribe fully to Apple's philosophy/ecosystem you start to hit some nasty barriers with respect to synchronisation/multi-user home solutions.
For example, I have a long-term dream (scuppered by time) to create a home media server, utilising my iTunes library and my iPhoto library, as well as movies etc. I could do this by mounting a drive and sharing those libraries, (let's say using a Mac Mini server, or even a time capsule). However, what if I want to take my laptop to my parents' house to show them the photo's? I can't because i don't have a syncced copy of the iPhoto library on my Macbook. The recent homeshare feature in iTunes appears to have solved some of this problem on iTunes, but not in iPhoto.
This is very problematic for someone who likes the iPhoto concept (not a huge fan of iTunes but I can live with it to get the integration). Sure, I can rsync the photo's to my laptop, but I want a 2-way sync of these libraries so anyone can add to my home photo library from any macbook.
I might have missed something here, but this seems quite a poor solution for a company who generally have things well sorted.