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No, quite the opposite... Cell transmitters can draw watts depending on distance to the tower, WiFi is on the order of 100mW transmit power.

WiFi absolutely kills cell-phone batteries. I have tried it out on numerous phones, and in each case, it really drains the battery.
 
"Optical quality glass," as anyone who owns glasses knows, is hardly invulnerable to scratches.

This will be a fussy phone for fussy, fussy folks, who'll pet it and keep it in sleeves and worry when it receives the least brush.

Your first scratch--the first of many--will feel like a mark on your very soul.

I do wear glasses, and I have had glasses made with glass lenses, and they have never, ever scratched. You can have various coatings on these glasses which would serve no purpose on an iPhone, and these coatings can scratch, or you can have plastic lenses, and they can scratch, but I have never seen glasses made from glass that would scratch.

I also have a watch, which I own for over six years now, and that I never take off for any work except when things are wet. There are lots of scratches on the metal armband. There is not one single scratch on the glass. Now that wasn't a cheap watch, probably costs about as much as an iPhone, so I wouldn't expect the glass on an iPhone to scratch either.
 
Replaceable battery

So how long do people think it will be before the iphone is redesigned so you can replace the battery?

I'm guessing before September 26, 2008 when the eu directive 2006/66/EC kicks in. If you're not sad like me you wont know but it says "Appliance manufacturers must design appliances so that their batteries can be readily removed and replaced by the consumer."

Do we think the current designe will last untill then? As this will also affect the ipod so will the next one have removable batteries? any ideas how it will be done?
 
Actually, I think the ban on GPS in the air is so that it doesn't interfere with the aircraft navigation. Same reason "passive" radios and TVs are banned. Like radios and TVs, most GPS systems heterodyne which risks emitting sensitive frequencies. Worst case would be so called "zero base band" systems where you're mixing internally with the GPS carrier frequency. Any of these, given the right conditions, or a damaged receiver, could jam the aircraft navigation.

Ahhh... That's a load of........

I know that the airlines ban such things, but I think for two reasons. 1) Flight attendants have no idea what really is a risk (I wouldn't want someone sitting with an aircraft radio in 9D pretending to be ATC) and what's not. 2) they want people to pay attention during takeoff, landing and the safety briefing.

Here's a list of airlines which ban and allow GPS onboard...

http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/airgps.htm

And here's a publication from Boeing on it's investigation of every reported case of electronics interfering with a plane.

http://gpsinformation.net/airgps/interfere4.pdf

If you want to really have some fun, try and figure out how many people have their laptop's bluetooth and wireless enabled on every flight...
 
"Optical quality glass," as anyone who owns glasses knows, is hardly invulnerable to scratches.

This will be a fussy phone for fussy, fussy folks, who'll pet it and keep it in sleeves and worry when it receives the least brush.

Your first scratch--the first of many--will feel like a mark on your very soul.

Heh.

HAHA...that is hilarious. That exactly how I felt with my first and second iPod. Now down to the third and I still am trying to relax and trust that it will be ok if I set it on a hard surface or use it without washing my hands! :p

I am not getting an iphone yet, but when I do...that is exactly how I will treat it! With the upmost care and respect. I love you little iphone! :D
 
5 megapixel N95. Hype?

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http://flickr.com/photos/cole_singapore/521148066/

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iPhone needs autofocus for starters.

You are still equating Megapixels with quality, while the two aren't related at all. Image quality comes from the lens and the CCD. You can take a picture with a crappy lens (like on a phone) and make it 10 megapixels, but it won't look any better. It will just be 10 megapixels of muddy junk. Wheras a professional quality lens and camera could have a much better image with only 2 megapixels. Sure, the size of the image is different, but why would you want to lug around huge pieces of picture data on your phone when they are just going to get emailed anyway? Even if the iPhone had a 5MP setting, I'd probably want to change it to something more reasonable like 2MP.
 
Apple has factsheet and comparison-sheet of iPhone here. It says that Nokia N95 has no Wi-Fi. Well, fact is that N95 DOES have Wi-Fi. I really don't know why Apple is making such a claim on their website.

Don't know if anyone followed the link you gave an noticed this:

It says the N95 HAS Wi-Fi, lol.
 
Relating to the optical-quality glass...I don't know much about the material but looking at Apple's experience with the iPod and crap they got from that, I think Apple knows what they are doing with new surfaces that don't scratch as easily. They are in new ground with touch surfaces, but they might have experience with this and the touch wheel on an iPod. You never know how much Apple has been working behind the scenes on something like this.

And we won't really know until we get REAL WORLD TESTS in 10 days!! :D
 
... and significantly reduces optical quality.

The invisible shield while adding 'drag' does not reduce optical quality at all.

If you look at light reflected off it's surface at an acute angle it is possible to see the 'orange peel' texture, but if you looked at the iPhone without the sheild from that angle you'd just see a smooth reflection rather than an orange peel reflection.
 
Don't know if anyone followed the link you gave an noticed this:

It says the N95 HAS Wi-Fi, lol.

You must have missed the memo; when this fact sheet was originally posted, the N95 was listed as not having WIFI. Apple subsequently (and quickly) updated the list to reflect the fact that it indeed does have WIFI.

*Edit* Dang CoreWeb, you're quick! :p
 
I'm confused about GPS. I know that all cell phones are required to have GPS (both because of E911 and the US Patriot Act :eek: ). That's why Verizon, Sprint, AT&T are all able to offer services like Telenav and VZNavigator. Now I read somewhere that AT&T will not be offering Telenav service with the iphone. Okay. However, the iphone is still required to have GPS under federal law. Perhaps, AT&T isn't offering their Telenav product with the iphone because the iphone will have it's own directions program (maybe not even at launch, but introduced down the road as a software update).
 
I'm confused about GPS. I know that all cell phones are required to have GPS (both because of E911 and the US Patriot Act :eek: ).
Not true. In-phone GPS is one of the possible schemes that phone manufacturers might consider deploying to meet the E911 requirements. In fact, it may not be the best solution given line-of-sight requirements and the possibility that you may be indoors.

Tower triangulation (a technology that can be made to work without any special capabilities embedded within the cell phone itself) is another scheme that also meets E911's requirements.
 
People saying the glass is going to scratch as easy as plastic obviously haven't worn many nice glasses.

I've worn Costa Del Mar sunglasses for several years... first I had their "scratch resistant" plastic lens and eventually upgraded to the glass.

The difference in both vision quality and scratch resistance was ridiculous. I've had my current pair over a year and a half. I've put them through hell and back, everywhere from snowboarding to the beach, cleaning with whatever shirt I happen to be wearing, and they still have no perceivable scratch.

Using a glass screen is leaps and bounds better than using plastic.
 
Not true. In-phone GPS is one of the possible schemes that phone manufacturers might consider deploying to meet the E911 requirements. In fact, it may not be the best solution given line-of-sight requirements and the possibility that you may be indoors.

Tower triangulation (a technology that can be made to work without any special capabilities embedded within the cell phone itself) is another scheme that also meets E911's requirements.

Didn't realize that. Thanks for clarifying.

How much does a GPS chip cost compared to tower triangulation. I can't imagine that it's very expensive since the phones with which you can use Telenav are pretty cheap. Why would apple not spend a few dollars and put in GPS (especially, given the fact that this is a $500 phone)? It just doesn't make sense to me. What makes sense is that Apple is holding off on revealing this because either it wants the media coverage closer to the actual release, or the software just isn't yet ready. Maybe this is just wishful thinking, but I can't imagine the iphone not offering something that a cheap LG does.
 
You can use Exchange using IMAP/POP only if your IT folks have configured it to allow it from non-VPN'd services (assuming you have a private network.

My choice for our Exchange services outside the VLAN is either a Crackberry or OWA. IMAP/POP outside of a VPN connection for me is a non-starter - Mail.app does me no good. Outlook, Entourage, OWA, Blackberry. That's it for me.

That's what I understand is my situation also. Also, mail2web won't work, i tried it. Of course, haven't actually tried mail2phone on an iPhone yet, but will if I get my hands on one.

Either way, it just doesn't seem like it's going to work at this point, and for me, work email is a necessity.
 
Anyone getting the listed battery life out of their MB or MBP? unlikely unless you are low-power mode with the screen dimmed, HD parked, all apps closed except text-edit.

All of these numbers about the battery life are just pie-in-the-sky until the phone released and people test it. Until then Apple could say anything.

It was stupid for them not to have a replaceable battery. Other than a sleek looking case, is there any other reason? They could have sold millions of extra batteries at a typical Apple premium.
 
Anyone getting the listed battery life out of their MB or MBP? unlikely unless you are low-power mode with the screen dimmed, HD parked, all apps closed except text-edit.

All of these numbers about the battery life are just pie-in-the-sky until the phone released and people test it. Until then Apple could say anything.

It was stupid for them not to have a replaceable battery. Other than a sleek looking case, is there any other reason? They could have sold millions of extra batteries at a typical Apple premium.

Apple's been pretty much right on with their iPod estimates. Talk time has a lot of variables, so I'll wait and see on that one. At least, we have an increase in estimated time.
 
Apple's been pretty much right on with their iPod estimates. Talk time has a lot of variables, so I'll wait and see on that one. At least, we have an increase in estimated time.

I'd love to be wrong... but there is still no "good" reason not to have a removeable battery.
 
MMS is must though. The standard way to send video clips and pics. I just cant understand why Apple left that out.

Who says MMS won't be available for the iPhone (via a web app for example)

There are already programs like "my 811 for firefox" which will allow you to send mms messages to cell phones from the web browser on your computer.

The phone hasn't even been released yet, and people are ASSuming that MMS and IM will not be available on the iPhone via web-apps.
 
I'd love to be wrong... but there is still no "good" reason not to have a removeable battery.
The battery is removable, just like an iPod.
I understand that there are people out there who use multiple batteries with their cell phones, I doubt there are many. For the rest of us, a well contained battery is better. I guess it comes down to different strokes for different folks, but I see no good reason to have an easily removable battery on a cell phone. I've had 5 or more cell phones over the past 8 years or so. I have never changed the battery on a cell phone. I have had the battery pop off, causing me to miss calls. People like me can use the phone for a few years, without ever removing the battery, then when they need a new battery they can replace it (or have it replaced at a store, just like people do with watch batteries). I have had a sidekick 2 for almost two years. The battery is fully internal. I love it. I am confident that I could replace the battery if I ever needed to.

I would much rather have a well contained battery, than one that can come off accidently.

For people who need to have an easily swappable battery there are countless phones that provide this feature. I guess the iPhone won't work out for these people.
 
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