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great idea...I was wondering where this was when the iPod Photo was first announced. This will definitely bring me on board for one, 30 GB sounds just right to supplement my 40 GB 3G iPod :D
 
Serialexp said:
Well, the new iPod Photos use iPod Photo Software 1.0, same as the old ones, and the iPod update software on the iPod downloads page does not differentiate between new iPod Photos and old ones, so I'm sure that all of the accessories and software for the new Photo models will work with the old ones. Also, the software refers to adding support for second generation iPod minis but says nothing about adding support for second-gen iPod photos.

So don't worry. The only differences between the new and old iPod photos is the change in packed in accessories and the shift from 40Gb to 30Gb. There's no change in functionality between them.

Roll on March, I say - looks like Apple are really going to push the photo aspect...

they could exactly make one mistake, to measure the cable between i-pod and camera too short. as a photographer i would love to carry the i-pod on my belt and have the cable long enough to go up to the camera while i am shooting.
now think in terms of shooting RAW with the new 16.6mp canon - woweeee
no card swapping and one just can keep going at max resolution - i am so impressed - now i hope apple pitches this to the phtographer crowd.
 
unclewilco said:
i would love to transfer my digital photos to my 40gb old ipod, I dont want to view them, I just want to store them while Iam away from a PC.

but i assume that this connector will only work with the new ipodphoto, and i will have to get a thirdparty device and not upgrade..

thanks

wilco

I have the third party device for transfering pics to the iPod and used it while on a trip to Europe to store ~1gig of photos. It worked without any problem for what you want, but I always carry a camera bag with a tripod and a few other things so squeezing in the transfer device is no big deal. It is a bit big if you just want to carry a camera w/out anything else and I imagine that the integrated method for the iPod with just a wire or something will be much better. Plus it is cheaper 29$ vs. 99$ for 3rd party device. Can't remember the exact name of the 3rd party device, sorry.
 
Chaszmyr said:
There have been a couple of devices made by Belkin that have allowed this for some time. You can find them on the online Apple Store, or in Apple retail stores.
Actually, you can't. I just checked. They are no longer selling the Belkin adaptor at the apple store. (Would imagine the market got much smaller for the $100 Belkin when a $30 apple adaptor was announced.)

I'd be very interested to see how this is done. If done elegantly, it'd make the iPod photo the Bomb. I'd be willing to bet there's some problems, however. For instance, the iPod photo can't sync RAW images (? yet). And, for this to make the most sense, you'd have to be able to see the downloaded images on the iPod photo, not just the files; and two-way sync (Apple site says that there is only one way sync for photos, iPhoto/Tunes->Pod, not vice versa.) And - most importantly - it would HAVE to avoid the battery-draining problem of the Belkin adaptor.

So we'll see. I, for one, am very excited. A 30GB iPod photo - thin, and able to download your camera images? Very nice.

Dave
 
Fine Print

Photos or FILES will be imported? When I'm on the road - I want to store my whole 4MB files - not little thumbnails.....

That is the big question.

BWhaler said:
Brilliant.

This attachment with the lower price will make the iPod photo sell. Finally.

Looks like Apple is learning from their mistakes, to the betterment of Apple and its customers alike.
 
iriejedi said:
Photos or FILES will be imported? When I'm on the road - I want to store my whole 4MB files - not little thumbnails.....

That is the big question.

Currently the iPod gives you viewable TV-size images, and the option to ALSO have full "backup" copies too. So that ability is already there.
 
Syncs iPod-viewable photos in JPEG, BMP, GIF, TIFF, PSD (Mac only) and PNG formats

I'd worry about RAW support guys...

Not to say that Apple won't offer an iPod photo update bringing RAW support, but just don't expect it for now and be disappointed later.
 
Nice, they made it an accessory and not a built-in feature... :)

But why does it only work on the Photo's? This would be nice to use on all the HD iPods, even the minis (not the image viewing part, but the ability to download from a camera, and free up the memory card). Well now my next iPod purcahase will be a shuffle, for sure... along whith a couple of SD-card for my cr*ppy camera...
 
No RAW support, bummer.

Lower Price for the PHOTO model, will consider it.

Do I really need it, still contemplating the issue.


Will there be an iPod Photo with open plugin support to write neat little apps and visual effect, I hope so.....since I am more interested in that. :)
 
At last, an incentive for me to buy an iPod photo :)

That's a really good idea and means that I won't have to take loads of CF cards on holiday with me now.
 
im not very sure how it will work

can you hook up the camera to the ipod photo and have pictures automatically transfer as you take them.

it simple dump the entire contents just like you would , transfering to a computer

if thats the case. whats so much better about this over the old belkin card reader
 
adamfilip said:
im not very sure how it will work

can you hook up the camera to the ipod photo and have pictures automatically transfer as you take them.

it simple dump the entire contents just like you would , transfering to a computer

if thats the case. whats so much better about this over the old belkin card reader

I believe all this does it act as a "middleman". As in take out a picture --> saves to flash card --> transfers to iPod Photo --> dock to Mac.

Its is a slight improvements since you do not have to take out the media card and upload the images to the iPod. Downfall is that its only works with the Photo model and the 3rd party works with the original. :)
 
Still waiting for Apple to just integrate the iPod Photo with a digital camera, Synergy. ;) :)

have it as a 3-5MP digital camera with a 5 OZ, 5 DZ and save direct to RAW to the iPod Photo. Also can be used as a digital camera, replace the iSight by integrating it. :)
 
adamfilip said:
if thats the case. whats so much better about this over the old belkin card reader

The belkin reader is not iPod "Photo" aware. If you use it, you still have to take the iPod back to the computer, import into iPhoto and sync back to the iPod to view them on the iPod.

With the new adapter you have instant preview capability. Take the pictures, sync them to the iPod, view them on the better screen immediately, take it back to the hotel and view it on the TV screen right away.

No middleman computer required. This was the feature that was missing from the iPod Photo when it was releaased. My interest in getting one has just jumped 100%.
 
Dave00 said:
Actually, you can't. I just checked. They are no longer selling the Belkin adaptor at the apple store. (Would imagine the market got much smaller for the $100 Belkin when a $30 apple adaptor was announced.)

I just checked. You are incorrect. I searched the online Apple Store for 'belkin ipod', both products came up on the first page.
 
ahhh sooo toooorn. I don't know whether to buy a 30GB or keep my mini (it was gonna be my moms late xmas present) but I REALLY need a car, and 319 isn't easy to come by.

Anyone think theres gonna be another price drop/update? I would like to carry all my albums with me but I only ever listen to a few, thats why I may think the 30GB is too much, but its kind of ridiculous since its only 59 more than a 20gig
 
I can't wait to see this in action. I will probably order it right away no matter what, but I do have some concerns:

-How fast will this thing transfer? All the reports I have seen say the two Belkin devices are transferring at USB 1 speeds, so I guess this could not be any worse, right. Hopefully compatible with USB2!

-But if it is not USB2, then the transfer times will certainly not be negligible, so during that time the camera will most likely be unusable to take additional photos. What about hooking up a USB card reader to this new cable so that one CF card can be transferring and another can still be in camera taking new pictures?

-With the current iPod photo setup, the biggest time constraint is the processing of the images to give the 3 sizes (1/25 screen, screensize, suitable for TV) so will these images need to be processed to be viewed? If so, will this happen during download--further slowing the transfer and keeping my photo out of commission and not taking pictures--or afterwards? In either case, all that processing would seem to use a bit of battery life. Personally, I don't see any reason that this processing should have to happen. Most every digital camera I have ever seen is able to quickly create a thumbnail image for the screen, an even smaller one to look at multiple pictures per page, and allows for zooming--up to 10x. So, why should the iPod software update not be able to handle this too?
 
iriejedi said:
Photos or FILES will be imported? When I'm on the road - I want to store my whole 4MB files - not little thumbnails.....

That is the big question.

Yes, obviously it would be almost worthless if you just got thumbnails and still had your memory card full, but this is not how it will work.

See the press release which states that the connector will allow users to "transfer digital images to their iPod photo, providing tremendous storage space so they can take more pictures"

So, this is just like the Belkin devices except-
-(hopefully) it will be faster
-it will allow viewing of the pictures on the iPod without first syncing with PC
 
So I'm hoping that the adaptor will take the shape of the SendStation PocketDock Combo but have a usb A type connector. This would allow you to use the cable that came with your camera. God alone knows how many different types of camera lead there are!!

Also from the press release, I notice: Support varies depending on make, manufacturer and model of digital camera.

I'm hoping that any recent, i.e. pictbridge capable camera will work.

I have a canon ixus400 that has served me well for a couple of years and don't want/need new camera as well as new ipod.

I seen lots of people here mentioning transfer speed, surely you will need a USB2 camera to transfer at those speeds???
 
mcmav37 said:
-How fast will this thing transfer? All the reports I have seen say the two Belkin devices are transferring at USB 1 speeds, so I guess this could not be any worse, right. Hopefully compatible with USB2!
I would think that if the device allows you to connect your camera to offload photos, the bottleneck may very well be your camera. Newer cameras may have a USB 2 interface but the vast majority actually in use today sport a USB 1 connection.

-But if it is not USB2, then the transfer times will certainly not be negligible, so during that time the camera will most likely be unusable to take additional photos. What about hooking up a USB card reader to this new cable so that one CF card can be transferring and another can still be in camera taking new pictures?
Yeah, my 6.1MP photos take a considerable amount of time to download via USB 1. I use a FireWire reader at home. Although it is one more thing to carry around, I think the ability to connect a "reader" as you suggest is a great idea.
 
According to the CNET article, you'll be able to view the pictures immediately on the iPod screen, but TV-out still won't happen until you sync to a computer.
Good enough for me, but probably not for everybody.
 
This is awesome. I still think I'm gonna wait for the 80GB iPod Photo, but this makes the iPod Photo make alot more sense. This will be very very useful on trips.

I just hope it is very smallish. I am thinking pocketdock size.
 
Need iPod Sync Service

Great news. However, it is rather silly having to use iTunes to synchronize photos with a computer. iTunes is music not photos.

Then again, I don't want to launch iPhoto to synchronize photos either. Better approach would be Tiger's Sync Service to sync photos, music, and stuff synced with Panther's iSync (e.g., Address Book, iCal).
 
mcmav37 said:
With the current iPod photo setup, the biggest time constraint is the processing of the images to give the 3 sizes (1/25 screen, screensize, suitable for TV) so will these images need to be processed to be viewed? If so, will this happen during download--further slowing the transfer and keeping my photo out of commission and not taking pictures--or afterwards?

Photo processing (i.e. multiple image sizes) occurs in iPhoto, not in the iPod. If you bypass iPhoto using direct camera-to-iPod import, then you only get one image size -- no TV viewing. Not sure yet about thumbnail images...
 
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