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24C Hi, I'm not worried about viewing the RAW files on my ipod, all I'd like to do is download gb's worth of RAW files from my DSLR during a long days shooting. I know the Belkin reader has this capability, it treats the ipod like a hard drive for transfer to a mac later. The Belkin options seem overpriced to me at around £70, if this little gadget will do the same thing for £20 then I'm happy!
 
SiliconAddict said:
Yah that is one of my biggest pet peeves about the iPod too. How is it I can shuffle my entire library but I can't shuffle my playlists. I'd love to know if you can do this otherwise that was a really dumb design on the part of Apple. But I've got a laundry list of grips about the interface on the iPod but that's for another day.

You can shuffle your playlists, by, like I said, toggling the Shuffle under the Settings menu... But that still means it was a really dumb design... Apple should let you add shortcuts on the Main menu to things like Shuffle or Repeat, not just Calendar, or... Sleep Timer?? :rolleyes:
 
phonic pol said:
24C Hi, I'm not worried about viewing the RAW files on my ipod, all I'd like to do is download gb's worth of RAW files from my DSLR during a long days shooting. I know the Belkin reader has this capability, it treats the ipod like a hard drive for transfer to a mac later. The Belkin options seem overpriced to me at around £70, if this little gadget will do the same thing for £20 then I'm happy!

Snap!! I want to do the same thing. I've given up on Apple ever providing RAW support for my Sigma anyway but being able to use my iPod as a hard drive would be great.
 
PSD Supoport-why not on both platforms?
I'm guessing that Apple does not want Pictbridge support in their profucts just yet.

Will it work with most cameras and photo software?
 
aswitcher said:
This little device seems to mean that Apple have finally caught up to the rest of the portable photo download market. Good to see.

Edit

Does this little device work with existing ipod photos?

How about 3g ipods as the ipod update shows 'import photos' in the menu :confused: :confused:
 
fossyy said:
How about 3g ipods as the ipod update shows 'import photos' in the menu :confused: :confused:


I just spoke to apple at 1800myapple and they confirmed that it is really the same device as the 60GB and they confirmed this new device would work with it. I just ordered a 40GB IPOD and am thrilled.
 
gmed said:
1) Will the new connector support Firewire?

I only shoot in RAW and my camera uses Firewire. I cant imagine transfering 4 gigs of pictures in RAW format using a USB cable!!!
The press release stated:

"iPod photo requires a Mac with a USB 2.0 port or FireWire**, Mac OS® X version 10.2.8 or 10.3.4 or later and iPhoto 4.0.3 or later; or a Windows PC with a USB 2.0 or FireWire port or USB 2.0 or FireWire card and Windows 2000 with Service Pack 4 or later, or Windows XP Home or Professional with Service Pack 2 or later, and Adobe Photoshop Album 2.0 or Elements 3.0 or later.

**Firewire options require an optional cable, sold separately."

Seems like it''s only a connector issue.

One things that people seem to neglect is Apple's specs that this "requires a Mac with a USB 2.0 port". We should be pleasantly surprised, as the transfer speeds should blow the old Belkin upload hack out of the water.
 
Great news!

When the Photo iPod came out there was some discussion about the untapped capabilities, and I wrote that this would be a killer app if they created this camera to iPod use.

Well they have, and the high end consumer DSLR market is booming, so this should mean great news for Apple. Canon's newly released 350D is slated to have initial production of 130,000 units a month alone. If so people are dropping $1500 as a starting point (body, lense, flash storage), dropping $400 for portable storage is a no-brainer.
 
Chaszmyr said:
There have been a couple of devices made by Belkin that have allowed this for some time. You can find them on the online Apple Store, or in Apple retail stores.

yes, the belkin can do this, but you have to go back to a computer to sync it to then be able to browse your digicam stuff on your iPod photo

Apple's adapter should allow one to connect, download, browse on iPod photo without having to go back to a computer. sweet. :D

digital camera + iPod photo 30/60gb + camera connector =
ultimate vacation photo thingymajig...

yes, previewing only on iPod photo is kinda dumb, because LCD is not very big.

but remember, on vacation, away on holiday, you have your tunes, gigabytes of space for your photos, and here's the clincher you can view all your happy snaps and then some on your hotel TV

yes, i know you can connect digital camera straight to tv to play back photos, but remember now apple is positioning the iPod photo as your CORE photo device, not your digital camera. your digicam is only an acquisition device..
 
gmed said:
I just got the older 60 gig iPod Photo for $479, considering you get all the cables, and the dock, I say why get the newer one? Now that I know the camera connector will work with the older iPod photos, my only questions are:

1) Will the new connector support Firewire?

2) Will it support RAW formats?

I only shoot in RAW and my camera uses Firewire. I cant imagine transfering 4 gigs of pictures in RAW format using a USB cable!!!

Apple Vice President Greg Joswiak said in an interview
The camera connector, Joswiak said, is a small white plastic device, similar in appearance to a small docking station, that has a cable for connecting to the iPod and a USB port for connecting to a camera. It will work with both the new iPod Photos and with earlier photo player models
:(

I likewise shoot only RAW and have a firewire connection on my camera.. this new product seems squarely aimed at the amateur market (which is cool) but as a working pro, I'll be forced to look at other mass storage devices which will do the same job - just not as elegantly..
 
sunilraman said:
but remember, on vacation, away on holiday, you have your tunes, gigabytes of space for your photos, and here's the clincher you can view all your happy snaps and then some on your hotel TV

Not quite... according to the CNet article, photos that are directly loaded to the iPod will be viewable on the iPod, but not on the TV until you sync with your PC--presumably for some extra processing to take place.

While I don't think this is a dealbreaker, it is a bit disappointing and I don't really understand what the limitation could be. Like you pointed out, digital cameras have been able to display pictures on their tiny LCD screen as well as on a TV for quite some time, so I don't see why the iPod won't be able to accomplish this as well. But, unfortunately it appears we will have to wait at least a little longer for this ability.

click2025 said:
I likewise shoot only RAW and have a firewire connection on my camera.. this new product seems squarely aimed at the amateur market (which is cool) but as a working pro, I'll be forced to look at other mass storage devices which will do the same job - just not as elegantly.

Really? I didn't know that some cameras had firewire connections. Well, what I'm hoping is that (a) the transfers will be close to USB 2 speeds and (b) maybe we can plug the USB end of the cable into a memory card reader. That way, while one card is being read, another card can be in the camera and I can be taking more pictures without missing a beat. Plus, this will give people whose cameras don't have USB 2 capability the benefit of the (hopefully) good transfer speeds.
 
Chaszmyr said:
I just checked. You are incorrect. I searched the online Apple Store for 'belkin ipod', both products came up on the first page.
My bad. I looked under 'cables and adaptors', and it's under 'extras'. Price has also come down quite a bit since I bought mine, making it less of a no-brainer in deciding between the Belkin and the new Apple adaptor. Well, maybe not actually. The new Apple adaptor supposedly will allow you to view your just-uploaded photos on the iPod (though not through the TV out, oddly).

--D
 
click2025 said:
Apple Vice President Greg Joswiak said in an interview
:(

The camera connector, Joswiak said, is a small white plastic device, similar in appearance to a small docking station, that has a cable for connecting to the iPod and a USB port for connecting to a camera. It will work with both the new iPod Photos and with earlier photo player models

Sounds exactly like the current Belkin adaptor to me. I was really hoping it would be a small device that just snaps onto the bottom of the iPod.
 
Looks like I better just get some more flash cards in. From the description of the item I'm going to have to end up carrying more cables and boxes around then I really need to.
iPod+cables+Apple interface device+camera+camera cables or...
camera+flash cards lol. There are already some good third party hard drives with readers built in just for storing RAW and other pic files. They cost around £130-170. Even Sony makes one.
If I get a Photo iPod it will be because the interface looks nicer for music not for looking at my photos with :)
 
macHeaps said:
THIS SOLVES THAT PROBLEM. All I have to do now is sync each computer with the iPod photo and take it back to my media center Mac mini in the family room and sync back to that machine.
This would be nice if it actually worked that way. According to the info on the apple store site, however, "sync" only works Mac->iPod photo, not vice versa. Now, maybe this will change with the camera link. But right now, it's not possible.

Dave
 
gmed said:
1) Will the new connector support Firewire?

2) Will it support RAW formats?

I only shoot in RAW and my camera uses Firewire. I cant imagine transfering 4 gigs of pictures in RAW format using a USB cable!!!

From Steve Jobs latest comments, it seems they are moving away from Firewire first, USB2 as an alternative, to more of USB2 standard. And, it seems the new connector uses USB (probably USB2).

As for RAW, that's a big question. Currently (AFAIK) the iPod Photo won't import RAW photos from iPhoto, so it would seem that it probably wouldn't be able to display the photos imported from your camera in RAW format. Hopefully, it *would* still be able to import the photos without displaying them. And for those cameras that save 2 formats at once (JPEG + RAW) one would hope it could still use the jpeg for photo display.

--D
 
sunilraman said:
you can view all your happy snaps and then some on your hotel TV

yes, i know you can connect digital camera straight to tv to play back photos, but remember now apple is positioning the iPod photo as your CORE photo device, not your digital camera. your digicam is only an acquisition device..
This would be nice, and perhaps a future feature, but according to the article, TV viewing would not be available until re-sync with iPhoto.

--D
 
The problem with USB 2.0 is that the port of choice on a lot of high end DSLR's is Firewire. Apple hasn dropped support for Firewire on the iPod, it just dropped the cable. I'm hoping the connector also comes with Firewire capabilities.

G
 
dejo said:
You can shuffle your playlists! As long as you have your Shuffle Setting set to Songs, then when you play a playlist, the tracks will play in random order. It's that easy!


Thanks. I'm apparently blind. I thought there was only one shuffle option not song/albums. :eek: Now if only I could move a track up and down a playlist....waits hoping for some miracle solution from the crowd. :)
 
gmed said:
The problem with USB 2.0 is that the port of choice on a lot of high end DSLR's is Firewire. Apple hasn dropped support for Firewire on the iPod, it just dropped the cable. I'm hoping the connector also comes with Firewire capabilities.

G


An even bigger issue will be for people purchasing a Mac Mini. Remember this is the device that is intended to make switchers out of PC users right?
The thing only has two USB 2 slots and one FW 400 slot. Mouse, keyboard take up your USB slots and you are stuck with one useless FW 400 port. OK so not useless since you can go out and purchase a FW cable. Apple should really sync their hardware designs when they standardize on a port. Then again the mini has probably had finalized hardware since last summer. Sooo.
 
phonic pol said:
24C Hi, I'm not worried about viewing the RAW files on my ipod, all I'd like to do is download gb's worth of RAW files from my DSLR during a long days shooting. I know the Belkin reader has this capability, it treats the ipod like a hard drive for transfer to a mac later. The Belkin options seem overpriced to me at around £70, if this little gadget will do the same thing for £20 then I'm happy!
I'm not sure that I implied that viewing RAW files was necessary, but I read Apple's website notes and thought it wouldn't import RAW.

I am in the same boat as you & SiliconAddict...at the moment I lug a PowerBook to back up my images, but I would like something smaller that I could keep on me. There are devices out there, but last time I looked, I could almost buy a 12" iBook in the UK for the same money and get a larger screen to preview the shots and more functionality.

PS An iPod with RAW import would be a great backup device, in case some toe rag pinches your laptop (or camera), which sadly does happen.
 
SiliconAddict said:
snip... Now if only I could move a track up and down a playlist....waits hoping for some miracle solution from the crowd. :)
I hope you mean via the iPod click wheel, and not by using iTunes on the computer ;)
 
mcmav37 said:
Not quite... according to the CNet article, photos that are directly loaded to the iPod will be viewable on the iPod, but not on the TV until you sync with your PC--presumably for some extra processing to take place.

While I don't think this is a dealbreaker, it is a bit disappointing and I don't really understand what the limitation could be.

Earlier in this thread it was stated that the iPod Photo sync processes actually syncs "scaled" versions of the photos: one scaled for the iPod display, and one scaled for the TV display. My guess would be that for whatever reason the cable isn't creating the TV scaled version, hence no picture to display.

This does worry me, though: I know people that are using the iPod Photo as backup for their digital pictures, just as it's a backup for the music files. Does this mean that the iPod Photo doesn't actually have the original, unscaled photo when you sync it from the computer? That would be really, really, bad.
 
SiliconAddict said:
The thing only has two USB 2 slots and one FW 400 slot. Mouse, keyboard take up your USB slots and you are stuck with one useless FW 400 port. OK so not useless since you can go out and purchase a FW cable. Apple should really sync their hardware designs when they standardize on a port.

OR you could plug in an apple keyboard, then plug the mouse into (one of the two) usb ports on the kyboard. If your keyboard doesn't have a port, you can spring for a hub.

OR use bluetooth
 
stcanard said:
This does worry me, though: I know people that are using the iPod Photo as backup for their digital pictures, just as it's a backup for the music files. Does this mean that the iPod Photo doesn't actually have the original, unscaled photo when you sync it from the computer? That would be really, really, bad.

iTunes only transfers over the scaled down versions of the photos **unless** you click the box in iPod preferences that says to sync the original file too.
 
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