And I've certainly had it take up way more when various podcasts were cached by it (deleting the app and installing it again would clear it out, but can't be done now that it's a stock app basically).
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Apple is as bad at bloatware as Android is!!
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And I've certainly had it take up way more when various podcasts were cached by it (deleting the app and installing it again would clear it out, but can't be done now that it's a stock app basically).
I am pretty sure the OS is on a separate partition anyways. So even if you could delete them you wouldn't recover any usable space.
Same partition, different sub folder.
Deleting them would in fact free up space in the Applications folder.
I think it's more of an idea that they shouldn't be part of the default OS installation anyway (just like quite a few weren't for a while until recently).
I like and use newsstand, voice memos, stocks, iBooks and podcasts. Tips and some others seem to be a waste, but you can just put them in a folder out of site.
Oh man, I lolled hard. How much of your precious storage is being consumed by features you never use? 1%? Maybe 2%?
Apple are making a device for the masses, not you. You're going to have to jailbreak broc.
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LOL! sticking it to the man. Nice. But why hang onto tips?
They should stick all the apps they make by default then. Surely "the masses" will find App Store useful, or Remote App useful, or what have you.
Obviously I want to be kept up to date on new features so I can get the most out of my iPhone user experience.
Compass, tips, voice memos, contacts, maps, videos, notes, reminders, stocks, passbook, ibooks, itunes store, newsstand, health, facetime, podcasts, game center, apple watch
I'm not sure why we need a "contacts" app when you can see your contacts in the phone app. Same goes for the "facetime" and "videos" app. Wasn't videos in the music app previously? If you don't want the option to delete them, at least give us the option to hide them.
If I remember correctly, this was the reason why Verizon didn't get the first iPhone. Apple wouldn't allow them to load it with their bloatware. How ironic that is these days!
As for iOS vs Android bloat, android definitely wins. The new Samsung phones are coming with 40+ bloat apps which can or can not be removed/disabled. Most of them you're stuck with. I'm pretty sure I saw an article a while back that Google is now including 46 bloatware apps with stock android which means the carrier and phone manufacturer can add more also.
I'm not sure why we need a "contacts" app when you can see your contacts in the phone app. Same goes for the "facetime" and "videos" app. Wasn't videos in the music app previously? If you don't want the option to delete them, at least give us the option to hide them.
If I remember correctly, this was the reason why Verizon didn't get the first iPhone. Apple wouldn't allow them to load it with their bloatware. How ironic that is these days!
As for iOS vs Android bloat, android definitely wins. The new Samsung phones are coming with 40+ bloat apps which can or can not be removed/disabled. Most of them you're stuck with. I'm pretty sure I saw an article a while back that Google is now including 46 bloatware apps with stock android which means the carrier and phone manufacturer can add more also.
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I agree 99% of the apps could be deletable. However, at the same time I don't see the problem, just put all those apps in a folder and your problem is gone. What's the big deal?
Because you don't only use contacts for phone calls? I like having a seperate contacts app. I store birthdays, addresses, IM profiles etc. in my contacts. It would be weird to go the phone app to see someone's birthday.
But you do see that there, when you go to the contacts tab in the Phone app you see the same information for the contact as you do in the Contacts app.
Well probably basically unnecessarily duplicated functionality without any additional benefits.
Either way... You're opening your contacts. If they were stored in an app inside of an app inside of an app you still end up in the same place.
Haha, great reply
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Lol I use all of them.
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Yeah I know what you mean. The term bloatware these days is used for everything installed on a phone.
It originated from back in the windows days where you would by a windows computer but than it came with loads of management software pre-installed from the OEM that actually run on top of the OS. Therefore it's bloatware, because it affects system performance. Same with Samsung and touch wiz which is prima facie example of real bloatware.
Having a few more apps installed on your phone is not bloatware so people need to stop using this word in the wrong context.
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Which is owned by Apple, and currently it looks as if its being integrated into the Music app.
I don't think Verizon owns the NFL, and I don't think Samsung owns Amazon.
Like someone said above, bloatware isn't just what's installed on the phone, it's the external pre-installed 3rd party applications and tools that are forced upon the user. For example, on all the Android phones I've had previously, Verizon would ALWAYS install NFL Mobile. My Moto X had the app, but that's not something made by Motorola, it's not a Motorola feature, it's some 3rd party that made a deal to have it installed on my phone.
If the logic that "I don't use it so it's bloatware" was true, then probably 3/4th of the programs Apple bundles with Macs (Automator, iPhoto previously, Chess, Stickies, iMovie, Time Machine, etc.) are also bloatware. That's not the case.
That's a definition of bloatware, but that's basically one version of it. Bloatware can very well be pre-installed applications on a device from the manufacturer (not 3rd party) that can't be removed and aren't really necessary for the core functionality of the device. That's another definition of it.
I will agree that I wish I could remove some of the pre-installed apps within iOS. Tips, compass, voice memos, podcasts, reminders, newsstand, ibooks and iTunes U would all come off my phone if I could.
From my experience, I disagree that it is anywhere near what is pre-installed on Android devices.
From my experience, I disagree that it is anywhere near what is pre-installed on Android devices.
Or another definition is anything outside of the core ecosystem. Clearly everybody has a different definition, but define it as you might Apple still doesn't allow the deletion of pre-installed apps; for whatever reason.
It's a definition that's been warped to a situation. Years ago nobody was calling Internet Explorer or iMovie bloatware.