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Apple is Finally Making a Cheaper Display: What We Know
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Potentially 1k for 24", I could have 4 LG 24QP750-B all nicely daisy chained for that much...
If Alienware can make a QD OLED monitor with bleeding edge technology for 1300 dollar, 2500 dollar for a LCD monitor that probably suffers from blooming seems kinda ridiculous.
How is $2500 a cheaper option? Consumers won’t pay that much for a single display. I use two 4K monitors that cost me $1000 in total and although they’re not perfect, they do the job brilliantly for work (motion graphics, 3D animation). I know it’s a complete different product line but look at the original HomePod. That was massively overpriced but was still cheap compared to this when compared to the competition. Most consumers will be happy with $500 screens.
Apple-branded displays:
- 24" 4.5K - $799
- 27" 5K - $1199
- 32" 6K - $1799
- Thunderbolt 4
- Mini LED / IPS
- 120Hz ProMotion
- 1080p webcam
- Six-speaker array
- Three-mic array
- 3.5mm headphone jack (auto-switching high/low impedance)
- (2) USB 3.1 Gen2 (USB-A) ports
- Gigabit Ethernet (RJ45) port
How is that supposed to work? That only works if the monitors are full-featured docks with all the connections that are missing on the Mac. Otherwise these prices are completely exaggerated. A professional 27-inch monitor with hardware calibration costs 1500 with 5 years of 24-hour replacement service. Why should I spend 1000 more for a worse monitor? Makes no sense.
But if I wish to have a desktop with nothing else then Apple – than this must be the monitor line. Where is my spice???
Total bs, there is no blurriness at any resolution on a 27"4k monitor. Even native 4k is mostly readable at normal distance(though not recommended obviously). Your vision is completely munted or you are a liar. Pick one.
If $2,500 is considered "cheap" because it is half the price of the Pro Display XDR, then the Pro Display XDR was way too expensive to begin with, even for Pros who don't have money to burn. As someone else pointed out, you can get an iMac for $2,500, but without the computer. So at that price, who would buy this when they would just buy an iMac (assuming the new, bigger iMac won't be extortionately priced)?
I'm hoping the display will be about $1,000 for 27" (camera, speakers and microphone included). Then it'll be worth combining it with a Mac mini and also using the display to connect to my work computer.
I'm hoping the display will be about $1,000 for 27" (camera, speakers and microphone included). Then it'll be worth combining it with a Mac mini and also using the display to connect to my work computer.
Mid-range high quality displays tend to be either old Apple Thunderbolt Display or ageing HD monitors on eBay. Judging from those, I'd say Apple should price their new display between $50-200. ?
Still struggling to understand why Apple wants to enter in the display business when they virtually do not make any displays and all underlying technologies are developed by the manufacturers of the panels. Unless Apple developed a new technology that allows hardware acceleration by the monitor itself in order to produce better, higher resolution picture out of, say standard HD or FHD, then, there is really no point in my opinion. The current XDR Display is so niche product, that it is even not displayed for customers to see an try in many Apple Stores. After a couple of years, I haven't see even one out in the wild. Please Apple, focus on few things, but do them right, with true (and useful) innovations that people can afford.
Typical Apple - overpriced in the extreme. Picked up a Dell S2721QS for my gaming rig, only plopping down $400 or so. It may not have the exotic mic/speaker arrays or the 120hz refresh rate, but it more than does the job for routine tasks (which, if you're not doing serious graphic design, video editing or the like, I fail to see the point of)
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From 900 to 2500 for 3 inches would be a bit ridiculous, the same way a 2500 dollars difference would be to go from 27 to 32. Knowing Apple I think it's more likely this will be the Pro XDR offered in 3 sizes than a new Pro XDR and two cheaper models.
It's for their Pro line, most of them are video makers and offering a good and expensive display together with the machine it's good business. Arguably the display is one of the most important components of all the devices apple makes (you look at it every second you use them) and while they don't create the basic technologies they add their designs and techs to the screens they sell, from retina to pro motion to the tech to make Pro screens matte they introduced a lot of things that while not all made by them we could have seen a lot later if if it wasn't for Apple requesting them to producers.
$1000+ for a monitor? And no computer built into it?
Thats off the wall delusional.
Thats off the wall delusional.
The best thing that Apple could offer, compared to competing Thunderbolt displays from LG and Dell etc, is great built-in audio.
Those other displays have perfectly decent panels and great picture quality, but the speakers and mics they put in them are invariably abysmal!
An affordable thunderbolt display with iMac-quality sound would be amazing!
Those other displays have perfectly decent panels and great picture quality, but the speakers and mics they put in them are invariably abysmal!
An affordable thunderbolt display with iMac-quality sound would be amazing!
It's $1000+ for their high-end phone. Their phones start at $400.
And, same for headphones: EarPods are $19, and AirPods start at $129. Not $500.
$400 for a phone is still pricier than the low end, but it's perfectly in the mid range. $1000 for a monitor is very high.
Well, OLED ain’t all what it seems. LED is more color accurate and blooming would only be an issue in a dark environment with black being displayed. Looking at my 2017 MBP with the same screen as the 2016 MBP, I still think it’s beautiful, sharp, balanced and bright with very nice viewing angles. Also it will not suffer from burn in nearly as easily, so using it in a bright environment with max brightness doesn’t matter. Also Apples on the path to Micro LED it seems, and that’ll be the “end” for OLED once again.
This illustrates quite well just how insane a $2500 or even a $1500 price point would be. Unfortunately I think Tim Apple is actually insane in this regard. Apple should obviously not lose money on any products they sell, but if they sell a standalone iMac-like display for over $500 they are obviously not making a display targeted for mid-/high-end private consumers.
I wonder if they would be including USB-C both to display from and to charge an attached device such as an iPad?
Also, I'd really appreciate an easier way of switching inputs to the multi-button presses that are so often required. It is such a pain, I bought a small HDMI switch which has a remote. Possibly each connected device could tell the monitor "Display from me now". (Though automatically switching to the last touched device probably would drive me mad.)
Also, I'd really appreciate an easier way of switching inputs to the multi-button presses that are so often required. It is such a pain, I bought a small HDMI switch which has a remote. Possibly each connected device could tell the monitor "Display from me now". (Though automatically switching to the last touched device probably would drive me mad.)
Hey, us old farts need to stop picking on each other, to set a good example for the kids!
{returns to reminiscing about manually adding a switch on the ][+ for the shift key modification, scribbling notes on the back of leftover IBM punch cards}
Of course, let's also put "cheap" into perspective for monitors: spending $500 in 1984 for what was then a top of the line display ... a color 13" CRT ... is the equivalent of $1,352.97 today.
Likewise, in 1995, the 17" Apple Multiple scan was $900 ... which is equivalent to $1,660.32 today.
Now given how digital IT doesn't trend the same as the CPI, these prices are on the high side of the "should cost" equivalent. Particularly since we're not talking about this product being the top of the market.
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Dell monitors have been the best Mac displays for decades.
https://github.com/MonitorControl/MonitorControl Throw in this incredibly useful utility and the only difference between a Dell and an Apple monitor is the fact that you can still afford your mortgage payment at the end of the month.
It will sell in large numbers. Hope it does not have sky high pricing.