The thing is, you are talking to a person's who's entire goal (self-admitted) is to argue. He's not interested in even being consistent or explaining a point, just being contrarian. It's akin to a political debate rather than a real conversation.
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iPhone X Apple is losing its mainstream, non-fan core with the X
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I was suprised as this year I didn’t have to pay a significant amount upfront. I only paid £29 upfront for my X. There was an option of paying £119 but the difference in the monthly tariff was only £1 so I didn’t see the point. The last time I bought an iPhone from my network (o2) iPhone 6 Plus I paid about £170 upfront. I don’t know how it was for the 6S and 7 as I bought those directly from Apple.
Yeah the least I’ve paid upfront for an iPhone is £190 for my 6S last year. Previously I’ve paid £230 and £270 to bring my monthly tariff down. Our carriers have always made us pay in full unlike the US where the cost was apparently discounted to gain customers. This was my point to that guy who thinks it’s come to an end, we never had it anyway! It’s just our prices have gone up further for one reason or another.
Yes I remember paying close to £300 upfront for the iPhone 4 too and the 5S I paid close to £200. The tariff prices are so high at o2 now that it doesn’t even make a difference if you pay more upfront or not. The prices still remain high.
I know can you imagine any of the network providers doing a buy one get one free deal here.
LOL @ Metro Sexual. It's true!
Okay, I actually like the X. I like the design (over the 6,7,8), the weight and the screen size - these are all positives. I don't think the X is worth the sticker price. It should be around $849. I really do need a new phone as I still use a 5S (The 6 Plus in my signature below I gave to my mom). My 5S is still running strong.
I tend to gravitate more to my 5S, only because, I knew I'd be returning the X, and didn't want to accidentally damage it. But during my 2 week trial, I really enjoyed it and "I do agree" it really is just another phone. I can live without it for another year. Next year, I'm really curious about the X Plus. If I feel it's too big, I will definitely repurchase the X(S) and will 'NOT" be returning it. At least the bugs should be fixed by then.
Well yea if you need a new phone then maybe and depends if you like the hardware and footprint.
I returned my X and would have kept my 7 if my wife didn’t want a smaller iPhone than her 6S Plus. She also tried the X and didn’t like it and returned it. So we got an 8 on her line and I gave her my 7 and took the 8. Otherwise I would have been happy with my 7.
Precisely.
The X is just an iPhone. I'm not sure why anyone gets this worked up about it. Mobile phones, all of them on all platforms, got boring in 2015. There are no more breakthru's. We're down to minutiae. Nothing to get hung about.
Yeah the initial "Hype" you get upon opening it dies in about a week at least that's what I experienced. So torn lol haha but im willing to pay for it(?) i guess...
i would go on to say for those who want 95% of iPhone X, the iPhone 8/8+ is good. I mean the only extra you "pay off" for is the new redesign, oled screen and faceID and Dual OIS camera personally. if you do not zoom in often [which i urge people to not do normally haha because i hate even the 2x quality of iPhone X in good daylight, it just isn't as that crisp as the 1x camera].
But yea i agree with you mobile phones stagnated ever since they only toss in minor upgrades, the last time i got excited for iPhone release was 6s since it represented a breakthrough in processor performance and the rosy gold color [A9 being 2x faster than A8, camera getting an exciting boost and 3d touch which i find amazing even when surfing websites, can open consequent tabs super fast] whilst the previous generations were tiny increments and nothing worth harping on about.
The only thing that I personally feel would "Convince" people to upgrade is better camera [bye separate gear for camera, hello all in one, apple/samsung/google are smart to invest in that area lots of $$ because everyone needs a phone], better processing speed, abit more ram [normally not necessary for iOS but idk maybe might appeal to iOS mass multitaskers i guess].
which is what they did with iPhone 8/8+/X, the camera IQ out of stock app is amazing, more rich in color and tonal range which means stunning photos before the edit button is hit.
people have ultra high expectations of a smartphone, which might be the reason why some see iPhone x expensive ... but to me the camera, new screen, no homebutton was a dealbreaker. sure it is an iPhone, but i like it, and i use my money.
people should be glad apple offer choices now, before you had to buy the "TOP DOG SMARTPHONE" with limited choice availability.
There are 9 of us where I work. 8 of us have iPhones.
They all laughed when I said I was getting the X. "You're paying over a grand for a glass phone, you must be mad"
"You're paying over £150 a Friday night getting drunk and getting into fights, you must be mad" I could have easily replied.
I've only had the X 3 days and I love it.
SAME i use that arguement against everyone who criticized me for spending so much money for something i use almost on the daily to the get go from day to dawn ...
ive seen friends spending 600$ for 10 people for dinner at one point and i was like, what can i do with that money.
or some people spending 100$ on cocktails for one night... and im like **** what can i do with that money...
tech is where i put my money at personally, its with me all the time :')
so bottom line, everyone is doing their outmost best, trying to justify their well spend money, either on food, cocktails or a very, very expensive smartphone like the iPhone X.
And then there are people going out for dinner ( €60/$80 2 persons) maybe once or twice a month and spending about €/$700-800 (instead of €/$ 1100-1300) on a smartphone.
And then there are people going out for dinner ( €60/$80 2 persons) maybe once or twice a month and spending about €/$700-800 (instead of €/$ 1100-1300) on a smartphone.
I am one of those who has been in the iOS (and OS X) ecosystem for 10+ years. I switched over to Android (Note 8 and Tab S3) in September. I had NEVER used an Android phone or tablet prior this. What caused me to jump over was that the Note 8 provides many physical and functional features that just work a lot better for me. I was an anti-Samsung Apple evangelist for most of those years, but am now a total convert. For the price I am getting so much more. I guess I just tired of the same o'l thing every year from Apple, and they were making incremental improvements in areas I just don't care about. I do believe that Apple is out of good ideas. If they do ever start pulling ideas from Samsung, I might take another look. In the end, leaving the Apple ecosystem was A LOT easier than I expected.
Man walks into the Skittles forum. Tells everyone, "Hey, I don't like Skittles anymore, I really like Starburst better."
People in the Skittles forum go, "I guess that's good for you, but was it really necessary to create a thread about it?"
I like your rationalization here, and it's very true what you said. Everybody will justify how they spend their funds differently, because not everybody shares the same likes and values that we do perhaps in the tech world.
In the end, we all have different passions for certain things that bring us satisfaction to our lives with how we choose to spend her money. All that matters is your own opinion, nobody elses around you.
Because:
1) Apple holds these wildly enthusiastic product announcements
2) People misunderstood those product enhancements as innovation
3) Apple charges a premium and sometimes raises the price
4) People on this forum (and others) scream "Take my money"
In short, people are gullible.
most self-centered post I've seen in a long time.
Well Apple doesn’t promote they innovated. They promoted it’s innovated for the iPhone specifically. They promote to the fan base like ‘this is the first for the iPhone’ not the first for a smartphone.
Why are people jealous? We all have money and can spend it on whatever we like.
Being annoyed by Apples direction doesn’t reflect jealousy, more disappointment.
We can buy what we like with our money at the end of the day.
Android people are constantly looking for validation that leaving the Apple ecosystem was the right decision. They often pretend that they are in this forum 'educating' Apple users, but what they're really looking for is a pat on the back and some assurance that they are in a better place and we are so terribly disserviced by our iPhone's. The reserves is true. We're happy, they're questioning their decisions.
The fact that we don't care infuriates them. Textbook definition of 'jealousy'.
I don’t think hard core android users care about iOS just like hardcore iOS users don’t care about android. The ones that care are the flip floppers.
Yes, agree completely.
iPhone people = very happy.
Android people = very happy.
iPhone defectors using Android = miserable.
Exactly. That’s why Apple promotes ‘first for the iPhone’. Not necessarily first for a smartphone. They are marketing to Apple fans and loyal users who don’t care about other smartphones or OS’s.
I hope Apple continues to lose their mainstream appeal after throttlegate. They don't deserve to be valued at over $1 trillion.
Underhanded scheme and call it a feature? Do Androids and MacBooks with degrading batteries have this feature? No. BS excuse to help make your iPhone slow for you to buy another one once the battery wears out.
The X design will around for a minimum of half a decade, so its design will sell over 300M bare minimum with the combined sales. People being wowed by the X design won't be feeling that by 2019 when the iPhone released that year looks essentially the same with different new colors or smaller notch.
It's just smartphone fatigue and no smartphone whether iPhone X or Pixel 2 XL or Note8 will ever wow us. Just another honeymoon phase until the next phone you buy. Most buyers when they say they love their new phone don't know what love is...
Underhanded scheme and call it a feature? Do Androids and MacBooks with degrading batteries have this feature? No. BS excuse to help make your iPhone slow for you to buy another one once the battery wears out.
The X design will around for a minimum of half a decade, so its design will sell over 300M bare minimum with the combined sales. People being wowed by the X design won't be feeling that by 2019 when the iPhone released that year looks essentially the same with different new colors or smaller notch.
It's just smartphone fatigue and no smartphone whether iPhone X or Pixel 2 XL or Note8 will ever wow us. Just another honeymoon phase until the next phone you buy. Most buyers when they say they love their new phone don't know what love is...