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I suppose there is a OSX version of the utility? Nope. Even if MBPs had i-cores we wouldn't even have the software to use WiDi.

And why should not there be a version of WIDI for Macs? Perhaps Apple is working on it and that's what causing a delay in releasing Arrandale based MacBooks?
 
PC:
Where's the magsafe?
Where's the multitouch trackpad?
Why is this still 1.5" thick?
Why doesn't it have firewire 800?
Why doesn't it have iLife?
Why do I need to perform frequent defrag?
Why doesn't it protect against malware or rootkit?

um im not gonna say anything about the magsafe cuz that is awesome but the multitouch? pc NETBOOKS have that. (bestbuy.com) firewire...i have never once in all my 14 years seen something tht used firewire but still a lot of pcs have it (high end atleast) ive had the same pc for about 5 years and never once defraged it. apart from having to restart it every couple of days it runs fine. as for the malware and thickness, those are problems with pcs. as for ilife pcs cant have that because it is COPYRIGHTED!!! lol. thats like mac coming with IE out the box. it cant happen.
 
A disgusting common misconception that I see in these threads all the time, is a PowerBook G4 owner comes along and talks about how they've had the same machine 5 years, and it still works great.

That's wonderful! I applaud your patience and find it cool how your PowerBooks have held up 5 years as a main laptop, mine has too. :) It still works, albeit I need a new power brick lol.

However, I have a 14 year old Sony Vaio laying around, one of the first they made. My brothers and I abused the hell out of that machine (granted, it was a desktop), and I tore it apart and rebuilt it a few times out of boredom (for a couple of years, the motherboard hung on the wall in my garage for lawls).

It still works, and it runs Windows xp just fine, wouldn't be shocked if I could stick Vista on there.

Can you run Leopard on a bone stock PowerMac 7200? Maybe, if you upgraded the piss out of it.

Still, I see old computers in operation all the time, and they work just fine. When I was still in grade school, I was more than once "in charge" of maintaining all of the old computers, which instead of throwing out we'd repurpose until they just didn't work anymore.

And it's not like we're talking about Toughbooks or Thinkpads here, Apple laptops are on the sorta delicate side, if you throw them around they'll break rather quickly.
 
We are all going to be bitterly disappointed to have waited such a longtime when we all find out the new MBP will be redesigned with a 16:9 display!!
 
Thats a bad thing how...?

Bad thing? It's would be a catastrophic disaster to lose any vertical pixels let alone palm rest area. It was very difficult to adjust to the loss of 60 pixels when moving from the last Powerbook to the MBP with the iSight camera. Losing up to 120 pixels will be very painful.
 
Bad thing? It's would be a catastrophic disaster to lose any vertical pixels let alone palm rest area. It was very difficult to adjust to the loss of 60 pixels when moving from the last Powerbook to the MBP with the iSight camera. Losing up to 120 pixels will be very painful.

you know 16x9 can manifest itself two different ways, right?

on one hand it can lose vertical pixels, but on the other hand it can....take a guess

you dont have to lose vertical pixels in going 16x9
 
you dont have to lose vertical pixels in going 16x9

1600x900 is a crap resolution - the laptops look funny, short screens but wider. If they want to add resolution to a 15", 1680x1050 is the way to go for sure, even more vertical pixels! 1920x1200 on a 15"... way too much eye strain.
 
I'm also waiting for Arrendale. At the moment the Macbook Pros are just a no go. No price drop or spec upgrade in 10 Month??. If someone needs Mac OS than one should buy a refurbished one.

On the other hand the alternatives are still lacking. There is just no good allround 15" notebook. Lenovos are too heavy and have too short battery time (1hr 30 min).
HP's mac clone is spec wise nice (though expensive), but than they build in a 1280x720 display into it. It seems no one wants to beat apple at the moment...

So waiting keeps going on :mad:
 
Its a pretty sad day when Dell and Acer are beating Apple in laptop tech.

Depends on the perspective, that was a very loaded comment in my opinion.

While they might have a better system, strictly regarding specs, they don't have a super thin design, light as well as durable, and a beautiful machined aluminium enclosure.
 
Whoever back there said that in a $2500 machine, a 7200rpm default hard drive is out of place, is an utter imbecile. Too much heat? Too much extra battery energy loss? Please don't embarrass yourself.
 
um im not gonna say anything about the magsafe cuz that is awesome but the multitouch? pc NETBOOKS have that. (bestbuy.com) firewire...i have never once in all my 14 years seen something tht used firewire but still a lot of pcs have it (high end atleast) ive had the same pc for about 5 years and never once defraged it. apart from having to restart it every couple of days it runs fine. as for the malware and thickness, those are problems with pcs. as for ilife pcs cant have that because it is COPYRIGHTED!!! lol. thats like mac coming with IE out the box. it cant happen.

Maybe you could leave the computer discussion and take some grammar classes.

but the multitouch? pc NETBOOKS have that. (bestbuy.com)

The problem with PC Netbooks with multitouch is that it feels like you are moving through maple syrup. When you try to rotate a photo, even scrolling down a webpage, it is as if the laptop recognizes your gesture, then thinks, then realizes that it must scroll down, then scrolls down for you. The lack of responsiveness wrecks the experience. On a Mac it feels like you are actually interacting with the object on the screen.

firewire...i have never once in all my 14 years seen something tht used firewire but still a lot of pcs have it (high end atleast)

You have never used it, but people who use their PCs for functions other than playing games use it frequently in their daily work.

ive had the same pc for about 5 years and never once defraged it. apart from having to restart it every couple of days it runs fine. as for the malware and thickness, those are problems with pcs.

Computers (Mac or PC) WILL run slower if not defragged. File lookup simply takes longer. You will notice a performance increase if you defrag your harddrive. Mac takes care of that automatically, as the system automatically defrags smaller files.

thats like mac coming with IE out the box. it cant happen.
In fact..but I suppose you weren't born yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_Mac
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7l6G-9wYN0

Regards,
Patrick
 
1600x900 is a crap resolution - the laptops look funny, short screens but wider. If they want to add resolution to a 15", 1680x1050 is the way to go for sure, even more vertical pixels! 1920x1200 on a 15"... way too much eye strain.

youd rather have the current 1440x900 instead of 1600x900?? more real estate is more real estate, assuming they go that route.

that aside, id love 1680x1050 on the current aspect ratio or whatever the 16x9 equivalent would be.

Whoever back there said that in a $2500 machine, a 7200rpm default hard drive is out of place, is an utter imbecile. Too much heat? Too much extra battery energy loss? Please don't embarrass yourself.

yeah i picked his post apart a while back so dont worry :)

FWIW i *really* wish apple would just make the highest standard config laptop readily available in stores with the highest available processor, most amount of RAM, and biggest 7200 RPM mechanical drive. save the SSDs and stuff for the CTO, but give the top spec processor/RAM/HD size and speed to the consumer as a standard config, having to go the cto lottery route sucks.
 
youd rather have the current 1440x900 instead of 1600x900?? more real estate is more real estate, assuming they go that route.

that aside, id love 1680x1050 on the current aspect ratio or whatever the 16x9 equivalent would be.

It depends how much you like vertical scrolling. On a 4:3 screen many webpages show up without any scrolling needed. 16:10 needs more scrolling, and 16:9 would be going into annoying territory. The bottom of the laptop would be more cramped, the trackpad would have to go nearer the keyboard.
 
I didn't read through the whole thread, but for it's worth OP, at this point in time, Apple's current range of Laptops look poor in comparison to their competition.

The case is still great though, the unibody will still be ahead of the industry for at least a couple more years yet I'm certain.

Which kinda makes me hopeful that Apple are waiting it out to really produce something special with this next update. Can only hope.
 
i7? Too much heat & uses too much battery life. i5 would be a better choice.
While the Clarksfield Core i7's are too hot for the MBP, the Arrandale Core i7's aren't.

C2D is only one generation behind so will be able to do most, if not all tasks that is thrown at it.
If I had the choice of a certain level of performance or higher performance for the same price, I would take the higher performance.

Whoever back there said that in a $2500 machine, a 7200rpm default hard drive is out of place, is an utter imbecile. Too much heat? Too much extra battery energy loss? Please don't embarrass yourself.
Apparently quad-core is out of place for the same reasons…
 
It depends how much you like vertical scrolling. On a 4:3 screen many webpages show up without any scrolling needed. 16:10 needs more scrolling, and 16:9 would be going into annoying territory. The bottom of the laptop would be more cramped, the trackpad would have to go nearer the keyboard.

no--youre misreading still.

LEAVE the vertical height, and physical dimensions of the laptop alone. EXTEND the horizontal dimension of the laptop.

1440x900---->1600x900, if extended horizontally, does NOT affect the vertical physical dimension of the laptop, nor does it affect the amount of vertical scrolling you have to do.

think about it guys. why does everyone always gripe about the vertical dimensions getting hacked instead of thinking outside the box and thinking about the logical horizontal extension of the laptop?
 
A disgusting common misconception that I see in these threads all the time, is a PowerBook G4 owner comes along and talks about how they've had the same machine 5 years, and it still works great.

That's wonderful! I applaud your patience and find it cool how your PowerBooks have held up 5 years as a main laptop, mine has too. :) It still works, albeit I need a new power brick lol.

However, I have a 14 year old Sony Vaio laying around, one of the first they made. My brothers and I abused the hell out of that machine (granted, it was a desktop), and I tore it apart and rebuilt it a few times out of boredom (for a couple of years, the motherboard hung on the wall in my garage for lawls).

It still works, and it runs Windows xp just fine, wouldn't be shocked if I could stick Vista on there.

Can you run Leopard on a bone stock PowerMac 7200? Maybe, if you upgraded the piss out of it.

Still, I see old computers in operation all the time, and they work just fine. When I was still in grade school, I was more than once "in charge" of maintaining all of the old computers, which instead of throwing out we'd repurpose until they just didn't work anymore.

And it's not like we're talking about Toughbooks or Thinkpads here, Apple laptops are on the sorta delicate side, if you throw them around they'll break rather quickly.
I have reported that I have an old Powerbook G4 that was my main computer for 5 years and, although I have now had if for 7 years, it does, indeed "still work great." I upgraded to an MBP 2 years ago, though. The G4 is, of course obsolescent but it's far from obsolete. There is a big difference between obsolete and merely obsolescent. For everyday bread and butter, tasks, such as email, calendaring, Word, Excel, and Web browsing, the G4 still does as good a job as any other computer. Equally important, the G4, despite being 7 years old, still looks new. Looked at head on from an angle where the ports don't show it looks identical to my MBA. If there is anything "delicate" about it, you could have fooled me. I have owned computers for more that 30 years and none of them, not one, has come close to the G4, in terms of either durability or usability.


The G4's main failing for my purposes is that it can't run Windows apps. Otherwise, though, it does almost everything I use my MBP for almost as well as the MBP does. That's why I still have it set up and frequently use it.

I hope that this explanation will disabuse you of your misconception that those of us who are still getting some good out of old Powerbook G4s don't know what we are talking about. Perhaps then you will find us a bit less "disgusting."
 
apple has never been near cutting edge. their whole point is to sell older hardware at higher prices in order to make big profits. stuff like long lasting battery, unibody case and firewire aren't that important, because many of today's high-end laptops have much better designs than they did a year ago, they have replaceable batteries which can be swapped out when running low on power, and once usb3 becomes more common, firewire won't be as important (not that it's important now).
 
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