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It's an inertia thing. Amongst my rather random group of friends (perhaps over represented by creative types) the mac has become the defacto purchase - and it's a relatively recent shift as far as I can tell.

Once you reach critical mass you by mac because your friends have one, and that just increases the inertia. Of about 30-40 people I know only 1 has a non-mac and he's looking at replacing it. Goes against the statistics.. but these peer group pockets of mac usage are the same thing that got the ipod into the position it is in now.

This hasn't filtered through (much) to business yet - I wonder what the long term effect wll be.
 
Nice, but important to realise that Windows based laptops still dominate overall. Apple's market share in the US education market is probably about 30- 35% (and we need to be clear if they've actually increased substantially or if Dell has just fallen away and been replaced by HP or Acer) which means Windows based machines still account for about two-thirds of sales.

Also, Apple lead the stakes in Europe too but, again, their European overall share is only about 16%.

Important to realise that this is nice but really just spin.

It's also important to note that Apple sells far fewer SKU's of each system and only one variant of its OS to the consumer space, as opposed to the dozens of different variants from several brands. All in all, having such a percentage amongst so many more of each kind is no small feat.
 
This is extremely true. The other day my friends and I were studying and we noticed we all had exactly the same computer... a white MacBook. I know more people with MBs and MBPs than any other brand. It's cool and a little weird.
 
It's also important to note that Apple sells far fewer SKU's of each system and only one variant of its OS to the consumer space, as opposed to the dozens of different variants from several brands. All in all, having such a percentage amongst so many more of each kind is no small feat.

When you view Apple as a Personal Computer Hardware Company, then it is huge. They are making personal computers with the added bonus of os x. The only difference from hp and dell is that they make os x and don't get it from somewhere else (microsoft). So, in the hardware market on campus, this is huge.
 
Get em while they're young eh :rolleyes:

Seriously, excellent news though. Congratulations to :apple:

This will spread madly in the next few years as these kids start to get into the real world and spread it out even further. As many of us know...once you go Mac, you don't go back!
Until the Mac market share increases and we begin to see viruses.
 
Kiah! Go Apple. Inch by inch we are taking over the market... ok, maybe not. Apple doesn't look like it will ever want to offer a bunch of low end, crap macs for the mainstream. But even without those, I have to admit, Apple has been doing amazingly well over the past couple of years.
 
This is also good news for Mac sales over the next few years. These folks are going to want to continue to use Macs in their careers.

yeah that may be true. i also wish i could continue to use apple at work as i did back in college. however, my work uses pc's. what can i do? apple can make tons of strides and make all the headway it wants into education but until apple finds itself in the business/corporate world, it won't make a lick of difference (read "lick" as being loosely defined as a couple % points in overall market share).
 
People are getting tired of non-native speaking English support from India and careless Dell techs that come out and replace the broken part with another broken part.

Thanks, Michael, for ripping us off... enjoy your new private resort in Hawaii... :eek:
 
Nice, but important to realise that Windows based laptops still dominate overall. Apple's market share in the US education market is probably about 30- 35% (and we need to be clear if they've actually increased substantially or if Dell has just fallen away and been replaced by HP or Acer) which means Windows based machines still account for about two-thirds of sales.

Also, Apple lead the stakes in Europe too but, again, their European overall share is only about 16%.

Important to realise that this is nice but really just spin.

But Apple is making huge margins on there notebooks, unlike the companies you mention.

So having the biggest share and the biggest margin is a little more than spin, it's huge amounts of revenue.

PC OEMs won't be putting the bunting out any time soon, they're running scared.

Nice to see the US effort is going well. Now they need to start thinking about other education markets - they are still nowhere in UK universities, last time I checked.

Where did you look?

Until the Mac market share increases and we begin to see viruses.

Marketshare != Spyware / Adware / Viruses / Trojans.

It's a far more complicated picture than that. Although it is true to say every system is vulnerable and the more ubiquitous a system is the more likely it is to be the focus of attacks, there are still better ways to design systems (i.e. by building in security and not retrofitting it).
 
In my university, I see that probably 40 percent of laptops are macs. Which doesn't sound like much until you realize that Macs all come from Apple, whereas PCs (which all look the same to me when I'm looking around) come from a myriad of different vendors.
 
Until the Mac market share increases and we begin to see viruses.

What I don't understand is, with all the talk and animosity towards Apple and Macs with their advertising as more secure, that no one has bothered to code a proper effective virus to infect the millions of systems already out there to prove a point. :p
 
Nice to see the US effort is going well. Now they need to start thinking about other education markets - they are still nowhere in UK universities, last time I checked.

On the contrary.. Mac adoption has exploded in the UK. Hang around a wifi point near Manchester Uni and count how many Macs are in use vs. PCs.

With the educational discounts on macs there isn't a lot of price difference, and given the two students seem to be going Mac.
 
But Apple is making huge margins on there notebooks, unlike the companies you mention.

So having the biggest share and the biggest margin is a little more than spin, it's huge amounts of revenue.

PC OEMs won't be putting the bunting out any time soon, they're running scared.

To paraphrase a well known net saying: Figures or it didn't happen.

Need to know total sales or it's meaningless. Suspect these will be good but not earth shattering - European education sales have gone from about 16% to 19% of total market for example. We need to know how HP and others have done too as until then anything else is mere specualtion.
 
I can vouch for this. At my med school, there was some interest at the start (2 years ago) in Macs. Now, almost everyone that I know who is picking up a new computer to bring to class is getting a MB or MBP. It really does keep growing: most of these people are PC users. The other thing I have noticed is that after years of trying to convince PC users to switch I don't have to do much convincing anymore. People come to me instead asking for advice on what to get.

The change in mindset is what is truly driving this, not that they are "cool" and novelty items.
 
On the contrary.. Mac adoption has exploded in the UK. Hang around a wifi point near Manchester Uni and count how many Macs are in use vs. PCs.

With the educational discounts on macs there isn't a lot of price difference, and given the two students seem to be going Mac.

pitty they cant provide better support/solutions for uk uni/colleges.
getting apples interrest in any big schemes in the uk is a joke, it appears they just dont have the man power/vision? in the uk.
 
This is also good news for Mac sales over the next few years. These folks are going to want to continue to use Macs in their careers.

Boss: Here is your Windows system.
Emp: Wait I would rather use a Mac.
Boss: We use Windows here, you can buy one for home use, our perk program can get you a 10% discount.
Emp: Grrr.
 
It is encouraging to see Apple get back to their roots. Apple IIs were all you used to see in high schools. Education --> Professionals --> Enterprise.
 
I'm going to assume this is a joke from the "lol"s as iWork + NeoOffice is more than enough compatibility for 99% of us university students. I planned on just using NeoOffice for my college career, but then discovered how pleasant iWork is to use. But really, for most students, I would feel very confident recommending NeoOffice. I know plenty of students here that use Linux as their primary OS, and they don't really have any choice but OpenOffice.org, and they don't seem to have any problems.

That's the exact combination of office software I ended up using, and for the exact same reasons. Put MS office on my Macbook :eek:? Ya gotta be kidding me :D
 
proud owner (college student) of a Macbook Pro!

seriously, i feel happy when i use a mac especially when I'm in a group working on a project. My teammates were like "omg, how do you use a mac? I never get how to use it"

lol. Windows user =P

go :apple:!!
 
I am not surprised by this news. I remember seeing tons of Mac laptops on campus. In most classes about 75% or more of the people with laptops had a Mac and year by year that number seemed to increase. This is a really good sign for Apple. They still may only hold a small percentage of the market, but if the younger generations end up becoming lifetime or even semi-regular buyers of Apple computers, the market share will increase big time in the next 10 years or so.
 
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I could see this trend when I was in college. It went from me being the only one with an Apple laptop in the library to close to 30% I would bet by the time I left. This is good for Apple at any rate.
 
While I do see a lot more Macs around on campus I get a lot more headaches from them.

Every new Mac user always tells me they were an idiot Windows user and Macs are supposed to be computers for the computer illiterate. How many heads can you explode with command line skills?
 
Not surprising at all. Everyone I know in college owns a Mac. Those that don't are too stupid and not computer savy enough to understand why Mac is better.
 
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