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Like the 5th generation iPhone, with an A5 processor, running iOS5 being called the iPhone 4S? And was not a marketing nightmare.

I banked on it being named 6 or the new iPhone as well... but it's obvious at this point. Give it up, move on.

You "banked on it being named 6", seriously? "give it up, move on".... You seriously sound like you are gloating because somebody beat you over the head with an "iPhone 6" stick and now you may be right about "iPhone 5". Grow up and stop being so defensive -- you sound like a child.

Was it a marketing nightmrare with the iPad 2? Or the iPhone 4s? The iOS number didn't match! No it was fine! So stop saying ppl will get confused

Yes it was a marketing nightmare with the 4S. The entire media screamed that it was not the "iPhone 5". Everybody was blasting Apple and wondering where the "iPhone 5" was. Apple responded by removing the number completely from the "iPad 3" and simply calling it "iPad". Either to avoid confusing "iPad 3" and "4G LTE" or because the "4S" naming was such a debacle. So yes, it was a nightmare after the announcement.

Except that market will focus on the common consumer that is completely oblivious to all those numbers. So iPhone 5 will make perfect sense to them. Stop thinking geek-centric and think common people around the world.

I'm not thinking geek-centric, but marketing centric. "4G LTE" and "iOS 6" and "iPhone 5" are all marketing terms. These are terms that the consumer and media will see and latch on to. The media was anything but oblivious to the name of the "4S". They went nuts over it not being the "iPhone 5" and many of us asked the question "if Apple had just called this the iPhone 5, would there have been such a stink". The big problem was that folks felt like they should be getting the "iPhone 5" and they were short-changed because it was called the "4S". Marco Arment and John Gruber both called this out.

Apple's response was the "iPad 3" became "The new iPad" -- no number at all.

Did you struggle with the fact that the 5th generation iPhone, with an A5 processor running iOS 5 was and still is called the iPhone 4S? Well, maybe you did but I'm pretty certain that even you are okay with it by now...

I did not struggle with it one bit, but the media did. I'm trying to look at this from outside my perspective from the media and consumer standpoint. As far as I am concerned, Apple could call it the "iPhone XL" so long as it works well. See the link above from Gruber which references Marco.org. Apple marketing responded to this with a solution to remove the number from the next generation iPad. I'm just saying it only made sense for Apple marketing to follow suit on the iPhone.

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I seriously did not care about the naming that much, but you folks seem to take my little comment way too personally. Some of you "banked on it being named 6" -- I'm not quite sure what the heck that is suppose to mean -- that guy wants me to "give it up" and "move on" -- I'm not quite sure what I am suppose to "give up", since I did not really "bank on" anything here -- I'm just making an observation. What I do care about are all these defensive responses to my comment which seem determined to refute my opinion on the marketing of the next iPhone. I think I will maintain my opinion as to what the best name would be, but I am really at peace with the fact that I don't get to name the next iPhone.

Some of you took offense to my pointing out the inconsistency in the numbering between iOS 6, 4G LTE, and iPhone 5 (all marketing terms) -- my argument was to remove the numbers to simplify would make more sense (you know, like the iPad) -- but I had no clue that so many here were so personally invested in the "iPhone 5" name and had felt the need to lash out now that it looks like they may be correct. I don't think I ever made a freaking comment that has drawn more backlash. Apparently you all care about the name so much. I will pray every night for the next 8 days that they really are naming it the "iPhone 5" for all of your sakes. I would hate to see the "5" shadow mean something else and all of you have to face this forum on September 12th crying about the name of the next generation iPhone. But don't stay up late at night worrying about it -- I'm pretty sure it will be called the "iPhone 5".

And now for a more light-hearted comment:

I can see it now. They start the show off with a big 666 on the screen and they spin down to show iphone6 A6 ios6.

The Apple I computer sold for $666. Coincidence? :eek:
 
Are you all *really* talking about a number? the device name?

You arent more curious about what the actual device will look like or what new features it will have?

We know the features: LTE and bigger screen. Everything else will stay the same or have incremental upgrades. Maybe NFC?

Is NFC still on the table? That seemed to disappear lately, but that doesn't explain the Passbook app.

Gary
 
Good grief people REALLY need to get over the naming of the damn thing. Who cares what it's called? I'm more interested in its features.
 
No way will it be called the 5. Regardless of namings it's still the 6th phone.

ESPECIALLY since the 3rd iPad was just called (the new) iPad.

I agree that regardless of naming, it's still the 6th iPhone. So I won't be the least bothered if they name it the iPhone 5. As you said, it's just a name.
 
This is all just mis-information. It's really iPhone 6. Just wait and see...Okay, maybe it is iPhone 5 :eek:
 
Wireless charging would be handy but NFC doesn't seem to be secure as recently shown at Black Hat. I would disable NFC in any phone that had it until the technology has eliminated its current security issues.

To use the wireless charging still requires the purchase of accessories. Wireless charging can already be accomplished with most iOS and Android phones via third party accessories.



True.

The thing is, NFC has applications beyond payment systems. Windows Phone 8, for example, can utilize the NFC chip to share data between phones and tablets with a "bump". You don't need to mess with bluetooth or wireless, it just happens. If you don't have an app for it, it'll prompt you to download it.

That's the sort of stuff that NFC is fantastic for. I couldn't give 2 ***** about using it for payment systems...

However, WP8's NFC won't work for payment unless you enter a pin, so even the security issues become moot.
 
Sorry everyone. The 5 simply means it's the 5th anniversary of the iphone. It's a trick to get everyone arguing.
 
The new product is called iPhone 4G.

The shadow in a inverted lower case "g" (think about it - the shadows are always inverted of the real objects)

iPhone 4g is called because it works on the 4G LTE network.

My 2 cents.

Hahahaha! Wow!
 
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with all the money apple has they could have spent more money on the invite.

but the 5 in the shadow is nice.
 
...er, except when you count the verizon generation (which had antenna tweaks) its not the 6-generation. sorry.

Lol tweeks is not the same as upgrading the camera or the batter life. But lets say you are right, what number will it be then 7 or 8? :D
 
I really can't believe anyone genuinely thought the iPhone wouldn't be called the iPhone 5. The "new iPhone" would be vaguely possibly but apple would never have called it the iPhone 6!
 
Up until last week I truly believed they wouldn't call it the 5. "the new iPhone" seemed right, but then I realized 4, 4.5(4S), 5 made sense. despite it being the 6th iPhone running iOS 6.
 
The thing is, NFC has applications beyond payment systems. Windows Phone 8, for example, can utilize the NFC chip to share data between phones and tablets with a "bump". You don't need to mess with bluetooth or wireless, it just happens. If you don't have an app for it, it'll prompt you to download it.

That's the sort of stuff that NFC is fantastic for. I couldn't give 2 ***** about using it for payment systems...

However, WP8's NFC won't work for payment unless you enter a pin, so even the security issues become moot.

You can already "bump" to share data with iOS and Android devices without NFC. I see how NFC differs in that internet access is not required.

But, NFC has been show as a vector to allow malware to be installed on a device. It could facilitate the transmission of malware across devices.

So, the security implications are related to more than just payments.
 
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