Apple Issues New 4.2.2 (iOS 4.3) Update for Apple TV

[gelous]

No TV rentals

In the UK you still can't rent TV shows... An oversight for an appleTV I think... I know it's more to do with licensing issues, but it's definitely not living up to it's potential yet.

 

[newagemac]

I don't get it. Why can't they just use the same version of iOS for the Apple TV? Why does it have to always be .1 or so behind? The thing is running on the same exact hardware as other iOS devices...

It would be as if Apple brought out OSX 10.7 for all Macs, but the MacBook gets 10.6.

It's not a .1 behind. The software version is 4.2 but the OS build version is 4.3 just like all the other iOS devices. If you go into the Settings > About and then click the select button it will switch from showing you the software version to showing you the OS version which confirms it is on 4.3.

The software version really has nothing to do with iOS other than it runs on top of it. It's basically the "app" that runs the interface of the ATV2. Heck, the software version could be at 6.5 or something. The reason it is at 4.2 is because it continued from where the original ATV left off.

 

[newagemac]

How do you fast-forward a live event?

Simple. After you have rewinded it already.

 

[S.B.G]

ATV2 & MobileMe

I bought the ATV2 less than a month ago and everything but one thing works fine. I recorded a video on my iPhone 3GS, then uploaded it to MobileMe. The video plays just fine when viewed from a Mac or PC via the web browser. But when I log into MM from the ATV2 it shows my account, my album and the 3 videos from my iPhone show up. When I go to play one of the videos I get the message "An error occurred loading this content. Try again later."

It was like this before yesterday's update and continues after the update.

My ATV2 is connected to my AEBS via CAT5e and from the AEBS to my cable modem. All other content plays fine (Netflix, YouTube etc...).

Does anyone else have this problem or know what the issue may be?

 

[dethmaShine]

I just wish Apple releases Netflix like service for the rest of the world. Is that too much to ask Apple?

 

[samcraig]

Valid point. But to assert that a device that was INVENTED for streaming media is useless without what is most certainly a waning technology is absurd.

And I still maintain that DVD technology is being artificially propped up by media companies' greed, and unwillingness to let the streaming flow freely. Draconian rental schemes (24 hours to watch a movie, refusing to let Netflix have first run movies for streaming, not signing more tv show rental agreements, etc.) is just their attempt to keep fleecing the sheep, and keep the "value" of their content artificially high. Can't tell you how many friends I have who are all about getting Netflix for $8 a month, even after I warn them that they're not going to see very many first run movies like that. Imagine what it would be like if they could.

The entire world isn't broadband connected. And even if they were - there are clear advantages for having physical media just like there are clear advantages to having streaming media.

Perhaps I'm old school - but the second you get 1st run movies streaming into the home - then you lose the experience of seeing a movie in the theater because movie theaters will begin to die off. It's "bad" enough that drive ins died - an experience most will never get to have. I'm all for progress and convenience - but I also can't support a model which begins to erode social behavior.

Going OUT to see a movie - even though you're not necc. talking during it (hopefully) is a social activity. Seeing a movie with a crowd is part of the experience and often times is an element which can help augment the experience as well.

We are definitely (for better AND worse) moving towards a society that is so plugged that it resembles Isaac Asimov's "The Naked Sun."

And I love social networking. But at the same time - social networking can also easily be viewed as unsocial networking. Texts, Tweets, Pings, BBMs, etc are replacing the art of conversation and face to face experiences.

Again - technology is great. Love it. Use it. Early adopter on many. But let's not reduce the argument to talking about an industry greed. When a large part of the greed/entitlement is actually the consumer.

 

[ciTiger]

I know it is a little offt topic but the refresh of the Apple TV supposedly isn't that fair away is it? I'm guessing there will be few changes but this one sold much more than the previous one.

 

[ghostlyorb]

Your asking for a dvd drive in 2011?

You seriously need to learn on how to progress with times.

By the way a dvd drive will nto make it useful. The apps will.

@ HackerJL

I bought the apple tv because the media center I use to have was a constant issue for not being wife friendly.
I thought the apple TV was going to remedy that situation but it did not

I get the eye as well.

I heard from someone else on MacRumors that you have the give the ATV a static IP address and not use DHCP, because the "lease" expires every 24 hours or w/e.

I don't know if it works or not, since I don't have an ATV just yet, but it sounds about right .

 

[XxTheRemedyXx]

I haven't watched anything off of a DVD in months... but I've been streaming videos off my itunes and netflix in my room all day... literally.

So it does better than any DVD players I own... it can contend maybe with a BD player with Internet access and tons of video apps... otherwise... it wasn't funny unless you're so behind on tech you can't grasp the future yet.

Yes, that's it. I'm so far behind tech that I can't grasp the future yet. OR you have Apple so high on your pedestal that you can't differentiate between a serious comment and a joke.

I've been an Apple fan many years now. I own an iMac, MacBook Pro, 2 iPhone 4's, and an Apple TV. I know a joke when I see one, and that **** was funny.

And BTW, I've been in tech for over 15 years. I'm a Director of Information Technology at one of the biggest media companies in the world, so I think my tech knowledge level is pretty good.

 

[scienide09]

[...]Perhaps I'm old school - but the second you get 1st run movies streaming into the home - then you lose the experience of seeing a movie in the theater because movie theaters will begin to die off. It's "bad" enough that drive ins died - an experience most will never get to have. I'm all for progress and convenience - but I also can't support a model which begins to erode social behavior.

Going OUT to see a movie - even though you're not necc. talking during it (hopefully) is a social activity. Seeing a movie with a crowd is part of the experience and often times is an element which can help augment the experience as well.[...]

I see your point, and the argument about social aspect of movie-going does have considerable merit, but I have to disagree with your premise.

The best analogy to movie streaming that I can come up with at this early stage (pre-coffee) in the morning is watching live sports on TV. The advent of live television broadcasts of sports (major and minor) has not killed the social aspect of attending a game. TV has, however, made the game available to millions of consumers who would otherwise be unable to see it.

In many ways television has augmented both viewership and increased the social aspect of game-watching. Consider: I live 3000km from my hockey team, in a completely different hockey market, yet I can still get together with friends and fans, in the comfort of my own home, and enjoy the game. We're it not for TV (or web streaming, for that matter), I could never see my team play live.

I'd also argue that 1st-run movies streamed into the home would (assumption here) be considerably cheaper than taking a family of four to a theatre, just as watching a game on TV is considerably cheaper than taking the same family of four to watch a live game. The savings on price and the convenience of watching at home is hard to beat.

Finally, I don't think first-run films via streaming will kill theatres any more than live sports on TV killed broadcast attendance. Most home theatre setups, no matter how advanced, cannot replace the "real theatre experience" (3D...ugh), any more than a great "man cave" replaces seeing the event live.

 

[gdeusthewhizkid]

sweet !!! i can finally use my iphone app remote with the apple tv again.. thanks apple.. Im just waiting for the app store update now

 

[gtgrad95]

A Hulu option would sure be nice.

 

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What's a DVD?

it's those shiny discs now called blu rays that make a movie look so real that it's like real life.

 

[samcraig]

I see your point, and the argument about social aspect of movie-going does have considerable merit, but I have to disagree with your premise.

The best analogy to movie streaming that I can come up with at this early stage (pre-coffee) in the morning is watching live sports on TV. The advent of live television broadcasts of sports (major and minor) has not killed the social aspect of attending a game. TV has, however, made the game available to millions of consumers who would otherwise be unable to see it.

But there's a difference/flaw in your argument.

A baseball stadium (for example) has a finite # of seats and is in ONE location.

Movie theaters are all over the world.

Putting a game on TV expands the audience from (for example only) 3,000 people who are the only ones who could have seen the game live to millions. It also creates a great revenue stream.

There are far more "seats" in movie theaters around the world for people to see a film. It's highly accessible. And streaming it into a home (unless it is priced what many would consider way too much) - would not produce the same initial revenue as having it in theaters.

I'm not saying the math and system is perfect. I'm just pointing out that it's a different model entirely.

On the artistic/experiential side - I don't think anyone would argue against the idea that seeing a game live is infinitely more enjoyable than on TV - and that seeing a movie on a big screen with a great sound system is better than seeing it at home (most of the time).

 

[mrfrosty]

The entire world isn't broadband connected. And even if they were - there are clear advantages for having physical media just like there are clear advantages to having streaming media.

Perhaps I'm old school - but the second you get 1st run movies streaming into the home - then you lose the experience of seeing a movie in the theater because movie theaters will begin to die off. It's "bad" enough that drive ins died - an experience most will never get to have. I'm all for progress and convenience - but I also can't support a model which begins to erode social behavior.

Going OUT to see a movie - even though you're not necc. talking during it (hopefully) is a social activity. Seeing a movie with a crowd is part of the experience and often times is an element which can help augment the experience as well.

We are definitely (for better AND worse) moving towards a society that is so plugged that it resembles Isaac Asimov's "The Naked Sun."

And I love social networking. But at the same time - social networking can also easily be viewed as unsocial networking. Texts, Tweets, Pings, BBMs, etc are replacing the art of conversation and face to face experiences.

Again - technology is great. Love it. Use it. Early adopter on many. But let's not reduce the argument to talking about an industry greed. When a large part of the greed/entitlement is actually the consumer.

For me cinema's should die off (at least multiplex's). For a family of four it costs around £40 ($66 ish) with drinks (of ice) and cheap hotdogs its getting on for £55. ($80 ish)......Then you have to be force fed around 40 minutes of adverts before the film starts. Often alongside people that smell

 

[samcraig]

For me cinema's should die off (at least multiplex's). For a family of four it costs around £40 ($66 ish) with drinks (of ice) and cheap hotdogs its getting on for £55. ($80 ish)......Then you have to be force fed around 40 minutes of adverts before the film starts. Often alongside people that smell

The hot dogs and drinks are your choice.

And the price is the same here in NYC.

I guarantee - if movie theaters didn't exist - you'd be paying quite a bit to stream the same movie to your smaller and inferior screen.

And I'm not sure if you are referring to adverts as actual adverts - or movie trailers. Personally - I love seeing trailers.

 

[pmz]

Well, I didnt want to go there and get crucified...but it looks like that worry is irrelevant now.


At 15 negative votes and counting...youd think my post was joking about the holocaust, and my avatar was a box of kittens on the highway.

There is also the possibility that we recognize it as a joke...and that it wasn't remotely funny.

 

[Malcolm.]

What's a DVD?

Well played sir.

 

[pmz]

The entire world isn't broadband connected. And even if they were - there are clear advantages for having physical media just like there are clear advantages to having streaming media.

Perhaps I'm old school - but the second you get 1st run movies streaming into the home - then you lose the experience of seeing a movie in the theater because movie theaters will begin to die off. It's "bad" enough that drive ins died - an experience most will never get to have. I'm all for progress and convenience - but I also can't support a model which begins to erode social behavior.

Going OUT to see a movie - even though you're not necc. talking during it (hopefully) is a social activity. Seeing a movie with a crowd is part of the experience and often times is an element which can help augment the experience as well.

We are definitely (for better AND worse) moving towards a society that is so plugged that it resembles Isaac Asimov's "The Naked Sun."

And I love social networking. But at the same time - social networking can also easily be viewed as unsocial networking. Texts, Tweets, Pings, BBMs, etc are replacing the art of conversation and face to face experiences.

Again - technology is great. Love it. Use it. Early adopter on many. But let's not reduce the argument to talking about an industry greed. When a large part of the greed/entitlement is actually the consumer.

Consumer greed? Yea ok, pull your head out, and wake up. I'd like to take my wife to new movies in the theater, but we have rent to pay.

 

[jegbook]

You missed a key part of that definition..

Hard to say. He was being facetious (not sarcastic, check the definition of that one, too, which is horribly misused), which is often a type of humor. But tone of voice really helps along facetiousness (yes, probably not a word...), so hard to convey through text.

I think I could give the joke credit as such, but it's hard to catch on a computer a screen.

 

[newagemac]

The entire world isn't broadband connected. And even if they were - there are clear advantages for having physical media just like there are clear advantages to having streaming media.

Perhaps I'm old school - but the second you get 1st run movies streaming into the home - then you lose the experience of seeing a movie in the theater because movie theaters will begin to die off. It's "bad" enough that drive ins died - an experience most will never get to have. I'm all for progress and convenience - but I also can't support a model which begins to erode social behavior.

Going OUT to see a movie - even though you're not necc. talking during it (hopefully) is a social activity. Seeing a movie with a crowd is part of the experience and often times is an element which can help augment the experience as well.

We are definitely (for better AND worse) moving towards a society that is so plugged that it resembles Isaac Asimov's "The Naked Sun."

And I love social networking. But at the same time - social networking can also easily be viewed as unsocial networking. Texts, Tweets, Pings, BBMs, etc are replacing the art of conversation and face to face experiences.

Again - technology is great. Love it. Use it. Early adopter on many. But let's not reduce the argument to talking about an industry greed. When a large part of the greed/entitlement is actually the consumer.

I understand what you're saying but I don't think digital delivery is what's going to kill the movie theater if it does die off like drive-ins. What's going to kill it is the $12-$20 prices for a movie ticket. It hasn't always been that expensive and salaries certainly haven't kept up with movie ticket price inflation. With a family of four, you're looking at paying $50 minimum for the movie. And that's before you buy the $5 bag of popcorn, $4 coke, and $3 skittles.

So you're out $60+ for one movie and a single viewing. It's just not worth it in the grand scheme of things. At that price, you could buy 3 Blu Rays and keep them forever. Or just enjoy other entertainment activities that have the price/value thing more in line with expectations.

 

[JRoDDz]

Does the update give it a DVD drive and make it useful?

They already have one with a DVD drive. It's called "Mac Mini".

 

[samcraig]

So you're out $60+ for one movie and a single viewing. It's just not worth it in the grand scheme of things. At that price, you could buy 3 Blu Rays and keep them forever. Or just enjoy other entertainment activities that have the price/value thing more in line with expectations.

But I thought physical media was dead and it was all about streaming (which would only give access to 24 hours - not unlimited) /sarcasm

All good points. And definitely part of my decision process. I'm far more particular as to what movies I see in the theater these days vs what I will just end up netflixing/buying.

And PMZ - this might come off as obnoxious - but I'm willing to go there and I hope you don't take it personally. I'm not talking about YOU personally - but in general. But at the end of the day - we can't always do whatever we want, when we want and how we want. You want and need to pay rent. Then seeing first run movies aren't an option - or a limited option. We all do what we need to and what has priorities. But no one is entitled to see 1st run movies. Entertainment is a luxury item.

Again - I am not pointing a finger at you. Nor am I suggesting that it's you or someone else's problem because you or someone else can't afford it. I'm just stating the fact that like iphones, big screen tvs, the nicer cars, etc - these are all things we want - not need.

 

[mdatwood]

Perhaps I'm old school - but the second you get 1st run movies streaming into the home - then you lose the experience of seeing a movie in the theater because movie theaters will begin to die off. It's "bad" enough that drive ins died - an experience most will never get to have. I'm all for progress and convenience - but I also can't support a model which begins to erode social behavior.

Going OUT to see a movie - even though you're not necc. talking during it (hopefully) is a social activity. Seeing a movie with a crowd is part of the experience and often times is an element which can help augment the experience as well.

Even before streaming became so common I stopped going to the movies. Streaming will not kill the theater, but prices (as already mentioned) and dealing with idiots. Why do I want to spend all this money and then deal with some teen on his bright cell phone 5 rows in front of me, some parents who decided to bring loud kids, and then some other people who feel they have to talk and explain the move to each other? All this while sitting on rather uncomfortable seats that look dirty even in the dark. No thanks! I'll gladly sit home and watch movies from my couch with my friends on my 46" TV.

 

[Gregintosh]

I'm just stating the fact that like iphones, big screen tvs, the nicer cars, etc - these are all things we want - not need.

Absolutely right! People have a hard time distinguishing wants from needs as well as privileges from rights. Outside of basic food, shelter, clothing, and medication, everything else is optional.

While sometimes you may want something really bad, to the point it feels like its a need, ultimately your life will go on if you don't have it.

However, I do believe that at some point in the near future we will have first run movies at home, once the economics of the situation get figured out.

I would be gladly willing to pay $15 to "rent" a new movie for 24 hours. It would save me at least $5-10 off of going with my wife to the movies. We could also get our own Dollar Store popcorn and save even more. And if you split it with a few friends, the savings get even bigger.

Not to mention, if we could get Subtitles and the ability to pause the movie to go the bathroom or rewind a part a few seconds to see some detail, we would be happier with the experience too.

And after seeing a few movies at the theater in the last few weeks, I think I find my 60" Plasma screen more impressive in picture quality, brightness, and detail than the projectors used at the movies (probably because 1080p looks a lot sharper on a 60 inch screen than a on 100 foot screen).

I can see how in the past when people's living room TVs were no more than 26" or 32" and most people's audio systems were basically the built in TV speakers, going out to see a movie was an "experience." But today the only reason to see movies at the theater is if you can't wait the few months it takes for them to get to Blu-ray.

Edit: Also, 3-D movies are still a better experience at the movies, but that will change in the next couple of years as 3-D TVs become mainstream.