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I wonder what would happen were I to have a dissenting opinion on this topic? It usually seems that popular opinion loves tolerance so long as it matches their own views.

Why should anyone be tolerant of prejudice?
 
What does a church have the say on marriage then? They didn't invent it!
The Government has a say because they are the ones who are supposed to be protecting their citizens rights, like hey the right to be married to the person of your choice.

I said nothing about "churches". They should stay out of it too, imo.
 
Are the working conditions of Chinese factory workers also a civil rights issue?

That has nothing to do with this.

In addition there is not a piece of electronic that hasn't been made or contains parts that are made in Chinese, Taiwanese or Vietnamese sweatshops. Most of the clothes that you are wearing probably come from places like these too.

If you would care as much about Chinese workers as you are trying to appear, than you should throw out your electronics and undress, and leave us here discussing in peace about something that is on-topic.
 
This. Christians' definition of marriage is that its between a man, woman, and God. It has nothing to do with being bigoted, hateful or homophobic. Too bad its all drowned out amongst the screams of "bigot".

That's because it's a logical and rational argument. It's much easier for people to win an emotional one, regardless of facts. Seen it many times over the years on both side of this topic.
 
This whole mess is why I think we should follow the model of several European countries, where the government performs civil unions, which grants all the legal rights, but marriage is left to the church.
I don't know a european country where the government does not perform a civil marriage between a heterosexual couple. Some perform it for homosexual couples as well and then there are some countries, like Germany, where the homosexual 'marriage' is not fully equal to the heterosexual one and therefore called a 'civil union' (eingetragene Partnerschaft).
 
This. Christians' definition of marriage is that its between a man, woman, and God. It has nothing to do with being bigoted, hateful or homophobic. Too bad its all drowned out amongst the screams of "bigot".

It is when someone's beliefs on their "god" work to actively take away the rights of others. NOM and many anti-LGBT rights groups have used your justification to impose their beliefs on others. This was the same arguments used to justify bigotry in interracial marriage and many other disgraces in social justice. Further, marriage laws recognize more rights than civil unions, so it is not simply an issue of what it is called.

Educate yourself on the law before spouting your opinions and beliefs as fact.
 
I don't have to hear you say "yes" to know that you're mad. :rolleyes:

And I don't have to know your views to hear you say how much you love it and how much you dislike anyone with a religious viewpoint. Amazing contradiction there, too.
 
Apple really should keep their mouths shut on political issues, as should all businesses. Employees are free to have their opinions, but they need not project those opinions onto the brand.


I agree, why risk alienating potential anti same sex marriage customers when they could have just kept there mouth shut.
 
Do some reading before commenting if you are not informed.

In the European model (it does vary by country), the gov recognizes ONLY the civil unions as legally binding, granting rights, etc. "Marriage" is only recognized by the church.

That model would help a lot.

You are wrong. Period. I suggest you read and educate yourself, sir. Done.
 
I don't know a european country where the government does not perform a civil marriage between a heterosexual couple. Some perform it for homosexual couples as well and then there are some countries, like Germany, where the homosexual 'marriage' is not fully equal to the heterosexual one and therefore called a 'civil union' (eingetragene Partnerschaft).

And they should be equal in any legal regard. And the religious views be left to the church. Fully legal and rights-granting civil unions would be a path towards this.
 
So is the "church" prejudiced against alcholics, since it says getting drunk is a sin too?.. :eek:

When the church actively backs legislation to take away civil rights of those who get "drunk" we can talk about prejudice.

Disagreeing is one thing - actively advocating inequality is something else entirely.

When was the last time gay rights activists supported laws to criminalize religion and those who practice it?
 
How does a gay couple reproduce?

- They don't

Reason why it needs to be illegal^

Do you mean to say that anyone over the age of child bearing should not be allowed to get married, and the same for people who have no intention of having children, and that people who are married and not being able to conceived by the end of their child bearing age should get a divorce?
 
If you are against gay marriage you are absolutely against gay rights. Period.

Period? its this sort of black and white thinking that makes the situation as unhealthy as it is right now. "I'll tolerate your opinion as long as it matches my views."

There are even gay folks who are against gay marriage. Let me guess they are traitors and closet homophobes right?
 
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