And if an atheistic viewpoint makes its way into infringing the rights of religious people what then?
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Apple Issues Statement in Support of Supreme Court Gay Marriage Rulings
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And if an atheistic viewpoint makes its way into infringing the rights of religious people what then?
So some people found a correlation between alcoholism and some genes. That doesn't make people with that gene born alcoholics and vice versa. It's still a decision you make at some point. Homosexuality is not.
Yes, clearly you missed it. Let me help.
The institution of marriage IS NOT rooted in religion or religious beliefs. Comprende?
Are humans going to evolve enough for parthenogenesis? Or are you saying we simply evolve enough to change the meaning of words and meanings that have survived several millennia?
Most people have nothing against gay unions and even benefits for those couples/families. Marriage however is extremely well defined and has significant historical precedent. There is more to this whole debate than most people are led to believe.
Nope-it has not gotten off course. The replies to the original post is going exactly how I envisioned it going.
In post modern world, people redefine "harm" to suit their purposes. It's really just an excuse to do what you want until someone can prove that it harms them. And then, of course, that harms the original person.
It not a political issue it's a human rights issue.
The catholic church and the Vatican are a 'Brand' and they keep shooting there mouth off about Homosexuality, persuading aids ridden and overpopulated communities that condoms are wrong and you will go to hell if you use them, that every Child is born 'with sin' and needs to spend a lifetime to make up for their sins ( a notion invented by a pope in the 17th century ) which is the most 'evil' thing I have ever heard.
And you can certainly tell who's against this from where they are... Georgia, Texas, Tulsa.
How does marriage equality affect marriage between a man and a woman? You do know gay marriage isn't compulsory? You don't have to marry a gay if you don't want to.
Just look at some of the posts in this thread to see disrespectful language. It isn't hard. It was a general statement, though, about discourse in general.
You have to watch the EXACT language. This is the 14th amendment. It does not say "treat everyone the same". Read the text of the 14th:
What this means is you can't carve out a special group of people and say the law applies to them in some different way. That is different from "must be treated equally"
This was written right after the US Civil War. The intent was to stop Southern states from writing different laws for white and black people. The interpretation has been expanded over the years to include many other groups. (What's hard to believe was that for over 100 year prior to this states WERE allowed to writes laws that applied only to one group of people. The 14th tried to put a stop to that. It is still trying)
I think personally think it is fantastic that Apple has issued a statement like this.
Having said that, don't shift your attention too long. There are still plenty off SERIOUS issues that need the our attention. Syria, our deteriorating privacy and 5th amendment rights to name a few. Don't take your eye off the ball friends.
Having said that, don't shift your attention too long. There are still plenty off SERIOUS issues that need the our attention. Syria, our deteriorating privacy and 5th amendment rights to name a few. Don't take your eye off the ball friends.
My god, what the hell are they preaching on your church? Sure doesn't sound like anything I've ever read in the Bible.
I'm perfectly fine with giving homosexuals the legal rights currently associated with marriage. Why? Because that's not what marriage is to me. It truly has absolutely nothing to do with any hatred of homosexuals and everything to do with my definition of marriage as a union between a man, woman and God. I'm not trying to impose my belief on you, but you're sure as hell determined to take away my definition of marriage, regardless of the civil rights.
You mean logical fallacies to justify denying people rights? Please.
Don't waste your time, he's obviously made up his mind. It's amazing the level some will go to in justifying their bigotry and hiding behind a book in doing so. Amazing still they cherry pick parts of the bible to justify it further.
In Leviticus, if a man touches the bed of a woman who has her period he should be put to death. If a child curses their parent(s) they may be put to death. If a man dresses in material of more than one fabric they may be stoned.
Yet gays marrying? That's more important.
Read a history book. Seriously.
Actually, they are. Addiction to some substances can be a genetic cause, just like sexuality can be determined by a chemical composition in the brain.
Steve Jobs was a big LGBT supporter. Nice try.
Send me a check and I'll gladly send you a link. Otherwise, do your own googling.
You mean logical fallacies to justify denying people rights? Please.
LOL, you're so predictable.
It's strange reading some of these comments (those opposed to same-sex marriage). I remember growing up and reading/learning about ethnic minorities and women having to fight for equality and thinking, "What the hell was wrong with people back then? How were these even issues?"
The same will happen with gay rights. Future generations will look back on this and think, "What's the issue here? Why would anyone care that two women want to marry each other or adopt children? Why would you treat them unfairly over that? Why was this such a big deal?" It's just weird being in the present and reading/hearing these irrational comments about gays. You can bend over backwards to try and justify bigotry but it doesn't hold up in the end.
As a gay man, this day just feels surreal. Can't quite wrap my head around the ruling. I'm happy, though
The same will happen with gay rights. Future generations will look back on this and think, "What's the issue here? Why would anyone care that two women want to marry each other or adopt children? Why would you treat them unfairly over that? Why was this such a big deal?" It's just weird being in the present and reading/hearing these irrational comments about gays. You can bend over backwards to try and justify bigotry but it doesn't hold up in the end.
As a gay man, this day just feels surreal. Can't quite wrap my head around the ruling. I'm happy, though
I'm not sure people actually actively choose to become alcoholics but that's beside the point. Then genetic basis of homosexuality is actually revealed in much the same way - through twin studies demonstrating concordance.
And those most emphatically and vocally against equal rights will pretend they were actually for it all along.
Uh, yeah. I'd be against that too.
But please tell, what possible scenario do you envision?
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