Even the POI's they are pulling from Yelp are rubbish. Apparently, down a residential street near me there are all sorts of shops and restaurants. If you click on them it gives the address they are being shown at but if you click the link to Yelp they are all in a town nearby. The street names are correct but the town and postcode are totally different to the Yelp entries. They really are dire.
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Apple Issues Statement Over Day 1 'Maps' Glitches, Maps Team Reportedly Under Lockdown to Fix Issues
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The fact is for me the iPhone does not have mapping any more. The Apple effort is too appalling to count. They've left us without mapping.
Joke locations, long-dead retail chains showing up, football teams in the wrong city, pins so approximate to be laughable. A search box that returns 'no results found' over and over unless there happens to be a POI with the your search term in its title. This is years behind Nokia Maps, which is at least functional, let alone Google Maps. I'm sure there are crappy little apps in the App Store that get you around better.
This is a horror show for Apple. It's not just that Maps is bad - it reveals that Apple's leadership must be all over the shop right now. Tim Cook is a clueless bean counter like Gil Amelio. Hell, the man employed a guy from Dixon, UK (a chain with a reputation for the worst customer service in Britain) to run global retail! He's a tool. A fatter, heavier iPad 3? Steve would have delayed it.
This is like Copland - Apple trying to do things in house without the leadership, skills, and resources to do it. I feel for the maps team - the product is so appalling that they must lack everything they need to make it good. It's not their fault. It's shabby leadership.
Bing is info-rich but the iPhone app is dreadful. Yes, you can use the Google web app but it's more fiddly and sluggish.
There is no mapping on the iPhone.
Joke locations, long-dead retail chains showing up, football teams in the wrong city, pins so approximate to be laughable. A search box that returns 'no results found' over and over unless there happens to be a POI with the your search term in its title. This is years behind Nokia Maps, which is at least functional, let alone Google Maps. I'm sure there are crappy little apps in the App Store that get you around better.
This is a horror show for Apple. It's not just that Maps is bad - it reveals that Apple's leadership must be all over the shop right now. Tim Cook is a clueless bean counter like Gil Amelio. Hell, the man employed a guy from Dixon, UK (a chain with a reputation for the worst customer service in Britain) to run global retail! He's a tool. A fatter, heavier iPad 3? Steve would have delayed it.
This is like Copland - Apple trying to do things in house without the leadership, skills, and resources to do it. I feel for the maps team - the product is so appalling that they must lack everything they need to make it good. It's not their fault. It's shabby leadership.
Bing is info-rich but the iPhone app is dreadful. Yes, you can use the Google web app but it's more fiddly and sluggish.
There is no mapping on the iPhone.
lol you dont actually believe staff are being locked in a building somewhere do you?
Its apple BS spin nobody will be getting locked in anywhere. I doubt anyones even doing anything extra. There's so much that needs fixed they would need "locked down" for about 5 years.
This statement is to try an appease apple buying public.
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http://openmaps.org/
It has been done .. but the quality is less than stellar, often the details like house numbers are missing or off, but in general it is pretty cool data.
Why don't they just buy Garmin and OpenStreetMap? In one fell swoop you have two much better mapping databases than TomTom, the former with turn by turn, and the latter with a whole infrastructure for community-based expansion.
Bam, done, and Apple would still have billions and billions and billions of dollars left in reserves.
Bam, done, and Apple would still have billions and billions and billions of dollars left in reserves.
mate its their core data that sucks. Its not work they need its their cash to buy a good data set. That guy who works for waze already told us apple bought the weakest data set. Thats the problem.
Why did they do this?! I swear to god for the most valuable company in history, Apple can be such complete cheapskates.
In the case of OSM, because it's not a company that you can buy, it's a community. Your reasoning still stands, though, because Apple is absolutely free to use OSM data in accordance with its open licence - indeed, as we saw earlier in the thread, they appear to be doing so for Papua New Guinea, presumably because the Tom Tom data they've gone with elsewhere is not up to standard there.
Biggest failure since MobileMe. The new maps App is totally useless in my area. Just covered with cloud and no name data. And what exactly is this 3D flyover meant to achieve? It looks great, but it is totally useless in reality.
Please Apple. Usability before looks. Don't get sloppy.
Please Apple. Usability before looks. Don't get sloppy.
Don't get your panties in a bunch over it.I'm sure everyone will be fine if their map app isn't perfect for a while. There's worse things going on.
Sounds like everyone is fine with it, doesnt it? Why would we want to pay top dollar for an inferior service?
Exactly. I'm more concerned about what this reveals about Apple in 2012.
the FCPX launch was handled in an insanely bad way. But at least that product, while not ready for prime time, was at least a stellar piece of software with fantastic innovations that, after a couple of revisions, was great. It doesn't excuse the crap launch and lack of communication but at least they had something great in the labs.
Maps isn't like that - it's crap to the core. The satellite imagery is weak, flyover is a gimmick that has no use, the search functionality is like something from the 90s, Yelp's data is utter, utter junk. I can't see how this is going to get good anytime soon. It needs canning. Even if they just put a quick wrapper round OpenStreetMaps data it would be 100 times better. I really can't overstate what a joke Maps is.
In fact, I don't know why they didn't go the open maps/source route. It worked out pretty well for them when they turned KHTML into WebKit. Sure anyone could access the same engine but at least the get access to a good browser without worrying about falling too far behind.
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You would carry around a GPS unit??.... Funny, every person I k ow keeps them in their car, or the car has it built in. And the iPhones maps app has always sucked. So I will gladly take a work in progress over the same old *****...
Ive now been going over the new maps for a few hours, all I can say now is, if you think it was bad, just look further, it gets even worse, people are paying alot of money for iPhones, iPads or both, just sitting there saying Apple will fix it, is not good enough, these maps are a complete disaster, and people paid tons of money.
I don't care if Apple acknowledges the problem they have no choice, not to mention a lockdown of the map team, what a pile of crap, like I said Ive been going through these maps for hours now, and my attitude has gone from somber to pissed.
When your a multi billion dollar company, you don't put out crap like this period, and you dont expect the customer to wait for fixes.
I don't care if Apple acknowledges the problem they have no choice, not to mention a lockdown of the map team, what a pile of crap, like I said Ive been going through these maps for hours now, and my attitude has gone from somber to pissed.
When your a multi billion dollar company, you don't put out crap like this period, and you dont expect the customer to wait for fixes.
The dicks who are saying 'what's the problem' & 'it'll get better' or 'its only Apple's first stab at this' clearly never use the mapping functionality on anything like a regular basis.
As someone mentioned above there is no mapping now on the iPhone unless they deem to allow it. UK based and yesterday trying to find my way from a couple of appointments yesterday bouncing between Maps on the iPhone and then after that was a joke Google Maps from the web page. The first had no relevant data at all, searching for places as recognisable as Hilton Hotel and the other big business I was looking for in Swindon threw up results in Birmingham around 100 miles away. Google failed as epically because the web service is no App, the location just monumentally failed to work despite there being excellent 3G coverage.
For me and many others who use this functionality on a daily basis its the equivalent of asking them to give up on the phone, text or internet part of the iPhone. Its ludicrous its one of the very reasons I went for it in the first place.
Certainly no new iPhone 5 anytime soon and personally loads of faith in a company I thought 'got it'
As someone mentioned above there is no mapping now on the iPhone unless they deem to allow it. UK based and yesterday trying to find my way from a couple of appointments yesterday bouncing between Maps on the iPhone and then after that was a joke Google Maps from the web page. The first had no relevant data at all, searching for places as recognisable as Hilton Hotel and the other big business I was looking for in Swindon threw up results in Birmingham around 100 miles away. Google failed as epically because the web service is no App, the location just monumentally failed to work despite there being excellent 3G coverage.
For me and many others who use this functionality on a daily basis its the equivalent of asking them to give up on the phone, text or internet part of the iPhone. Its ludicrous its one of the very reasons I went for it in the first place.
Certainly no new iPhone 5 anytime soon and personally loads of faith in a company I thought 'got it'
As i've said in another thread, you can buy full world mapping from Ordnance Survey for approx £500,000. I am sure Apple could have done a few deals with the three of the top Mapping agencies around the world. OS, USGS and IGN.
But no they wanted to be tight, and bought second rate data.
I spent a hour last night reporting errors I found in the maps local to me and it'll be interesting to see how long it takes for them to fix it.
Days, weeks, months or years? We shall see.
Days, weeks, months or years? We shall see.
Have you reported these problems to Apple using the links in the app?
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As an Apple Maps user: Thank you.