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will still be garbage compared to google

Yup. Unless Apple send out their own Streetview cars.

3D though, what's the point in that? It serves no purpose at all. Streetview? I had a job interview, had the address and all that but it was amongst a complex of other buildings. On my way to the interview I used streetview to check out the exact building and where the intercom was.

Small things like that, they're just great.
 
Thoroughly tested? You mean becoming intimately familiar with every city on the planet and searching to make sure there is 100% coverage? This is their testing, and it's the only way to do it with mapping. Just report the problem through the mechanisms provided.

It wouldn't have been any different with Steve around. Besides, what is the point of that comment? Are you expecting them to bring him back? It's not like they kicked him out.

I have trouble imagining Steve ever letting this out. Mapping is data and they either get in cars and drive the roads doing like Street View, or they pay for a database like that.

There is NOTHING surprising about the quality of this app. If anything it's BETTER than you should have expected. Crap compared to what they had all the same.
 
Maybe this is a good thing. Maybe this will make TomTom get on the freakin' ball and fix their terrible map data. I've disliked their mapping data for a long time. No, my house is not located a quarter mile down the street, thank you very much.
 
After screwing around with the Maps app for a day, Apple's main mistake seems to be using TomTom's map data. TomTom hasn't been worth a **** since 2002.
 
No.

A better analogy is if you were sitting down in a restaurant enjoying a perfectly cooked filet mignon that the chef (Google) had taken a lot of effort to perfect.

Half way through the steak some idiot (Apple) takes the plate from me and replaces it with a half baked weiner, and gives some story about it being better than steak anyway.

Apple issues apology then transforms the wiener into a filet mignon right in front of you. Remember it's magic
 
When they release updates will it be for the entire OS or just the application? If it's an OS update they should have left maps out then. I know Google Maps gets updated at least once a month for adding new features or fixing problems.
 
People keep talking about this as if it can be fixed in days, weeks and months. We're talking years to get something as good the thing we had yesterday!
 
Hope

Was looking at other phone options today because the map function that I relied on has went to the toliet.
 
What a load of BS.

This isn't a coding issue that a couple of evenings of pizza and jolt cola is going to fix.

It's a massive effort in data gathering that's needed to fix the maps themselves! And that's not going to happen any time soon!

Not necessarily. The maps are rendered by Apple, and there are lots of issues with POIs, labelling and random parks and oceans and crap that could be software bugs.

Also, the reason Googles maps are so good is because they've been hand-tuned by an enormous team of people with lots of clever techniques and great in-house tools. That's something a lockdown can help with.

They could also work on integrating a better data set: possibly purchasing updated data from someone. Same could go for aerial images: there are lots of sources of this kind of data and Apple has lots of cash.

If none of it is good enough (and really, youd have thought Apple would have gone with the best data on the market from launch if not doing their own), theyre going to have to take their own pictures and integrate them sharp. How quickly do you reckon you could take aerial pictures of the globe with $100Bn?

You hire the imaging equipment and planes (of course). The value to Apple on getting this whole thing gone by Christmas is easily $5-$10Bn. That's what the cash hoard is for - emergencies like this. With that kind of cash. It might actually be doable to photograph the entire globe by the end of the year.
 
Fact is, is that Google has been perfecting their maps for the last 7 years. They outcompete any other map company. Apple will continue to improve their maps but Google will always stay ahead.

Unless they outthink and outspend Google, both of which should be within Apple's capabilities, this is where the company's traditionally conservative mentality is undoing it. If you're going to get into the Maps business, get into the Maps business, don't kid yourself that you can make a cheap knockoff that millions of people will be happy to downgrade to...

Also, the reason Googles maps are so good is because they've been hand-tuned by an enormous team of people with lots of clever techniques and great in-house tools. That's something a lockdown can help with.

Time to use some of that vast stockpile to, you know, hire a team comparable in size to Google's and get this job done for real.
 
I fully expect them to fix the issues when they release iAtlas.
The improved maps app you can keep on a shelf!
 
lol

Sorry to everyone who is having trouble with the new Maps App, but its working great for me. Better in almost every regard.
 
MAps is actually really nice!

Is everybody drinking the same cool-aid? Maps is great ( not perfect but a great leap forward in day to day usability!)

Visually google maps on an iphone was mostly miserable and almost impossible to read street names on. What an improvement!
But the kicker is the turn by turn navigation ... Its the simplest and cleanest to use yet from anybody on the iPhone and it can be invoked by SIRI to boot.

I tried it and found it a joy. 20 times easier to us than my previous (and pretty nice) GPS application and IMMENSLY superior to the previous Maps

So what is the beef no street view? How do you look up street view while you are driving ??? DUUUUH This is a real world application with things that will improve but its Awesome.

And the three D renderings are pretty cool as well.

I strongly disagree with the tenor of the reviews and think apple has put 3 steps forward and sacrificed little of use from the previously mostly useless Maps. And if you were using a more feature full gps what is your beef? Free TBT and 3D and nice easy to read maps

It will get better and you will have google Maps soon, if you need them - but i GUARANTEE YOU that six months from now 80% of you all will be stalwart users of this new Apple Maps.

Superb V1 Apple - Im sure it will only get better , and fast -as this is the new frontier, right?
 
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It would be a heck of an undertaking to vectorize the whole world and all its cities, towns, points of interest, gas stations, restaurants, hotels, streets and highways.

Having said that, I believe that we now suffer because Apple wanted to chuck out Google as soon as they could and go with their own maps.

It's gonna take a while to iron this mess out.

I have feared a slip in Apple's quality or innovation since Steve Jobs passed away. I hope that this isn't a harbinger of things to come.
 
Baloney. Utter nonsense.

I've been running iOS 6 betas and closely following the Maps feature since it was introduced in beta. The buzz was that while it looked promising, there was a long way to go before it would be ready for prime time. Everyone was convinced it would be a stellar performer by launch day.

Were the Maps Team sleeping this whole time? The very same issues experienced in the betas have now carried over into the final release of iOS 6.
 
We launched this new map service knowing it is a major initiative and that we are just getting started with it.



Apple would never have released a half-baked POS like this when Steve was in charge. I see Apple going downhill FAST.
 
It seems as if Google is porting their maps app.

I hope the public push back is enough to dissuade Apple from rejecting it.

And seriously, if Google doesn't get a native app...all of the sudden this is a big selling point for Android.
 
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