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Apple January 26th Event 'Confirmed' by Internal Source? Focus on 'Mobility Space'?
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Just throwing this out there
http://gizmodo.com/5437479/google-china-ex+president-says-apple-tablet-is-a-101+inch-iphone-with-webcam
Seems plausible for a January release.
Can also see Jobs on stage using the device to control the presentation, then right at the end go, "Oh yea one more thing" and whips out another tablet and holds it in the traditional Mosses descendant from Mount Sinai with the 10 commandments.
Just throwing this out there
http://gizmodo.com/5437479/google-china-ex+president-says-apple-tablet-is-a-101+inch-iphone-with-webcam
Seems plausible for a January release.
Can also see Jobs on stage using the device to control the presentation, then right at the end go, "Oh yea one more thing" and whips out another tablet and holds it in the traditional Mosses descendant from Mount Sinai with the 10 commandments.
Exactly, what most people here seem to forget is that the largest portion of Apple's target market doesn't care about how many cores the processor has, whether it has an AMOLED screen, what kind of OS is on it, as long as they can use it for their purposes.
The vast majority of Apple customers buy the products because they are easy to use and intuitive (and not like Windows "easy to get used to", which is a big difference). They can pick up an iPhone and use it, install apps without clicking 30 times and reading a manual, can use the touchscreen with their fingers etc.. That's what the customers want. They want camera's in iPods, bright and colorful screens, products that look nice..
That's why all Apple events (except the developer ones) have a decidedly customer oriented non-tech marketing focus. Steve Jobs talks about experience, not technicalities. And the reason is simple: the average customer is not interested whether an 8 core or a core duo renders their movies on a laptop while they are on a plane. The point is that it does what they want, and Apple is great at showing just that.
So what does this mean: probably Apple will introduce a tablet in a few weeks that will underwhelm the techies here that want to use photoshop, logic studio and aperture on the tablet, but to the rest of the planet it will be the introduction of the Jesus Tablet (or Moses tablet if you will
). It will be presented as a tablet with few buttons, a shiny glass screen that can handle your media and enables you to surf the web etc etc.. Reporters of general opinion and fashion magazines will go wild (see it in Esquire, GQ, FHM, Stuff, Der Spiegel, Newsweek, Stern, Elsevier etc..). Flame wars will be started here, on Engadget, on Gizmodo and CNet will review it as spec-wise not state of the art, but implemented best of class. A good example of this is the Apple TV: technically and feature-wise absolutely underwhelming (I sold mine yesterday), but if you consider ease-of-use for the average Joe, his mother, sister and our dads that couldn't even program the VCR, it is and remains the best player on the market. Plug and go.
I have a bycicle AND a car
I have a shower AND a bathtub
I have a frontdoor AND a backdoor in my house
I have a MBP and a Mac Mini
Some things enhance or complement each other. What's your point?
I hope mobility space means a push toward cloud apps and network integration similar to what the Pre does with combining address books from all your social networks.
I really really hope they jump the gun and announce iPhone updates! Google is going to smash them if they don't come out with phone updates at least twice a year.
I'm not really sure why they would make iworks available in the cloud when I'm sure even Apple uses google docs. They should seriously be working with Google not competing against them.
I really really hope they jump the gun and announce iPhone updates! Google is going to smash them if they don't come out with phone updates at least twice a year.
I'm not really sure why they would make iworks available in the cloud when I'm sure even Apple uses google docs. They should seriously be working with Google not competing against them.
Print media is a step backward. As much as older people like having the feel of physical media in their hands to read, books and prints are slowly becoming phased out into PDFs.
Plus the name 'iGuide' doesn't really convey a printing application for books and magazines. If they do implement some form of this idea it makes the most sense to simply add it in as an itunes feature.
BBC confirms
The BBC has posted their own version of the story, which I find more believable than Fox News... But hey, even Fox can't get everything wrong all the time?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8435257.stm
The BBC has posted their own version of the story, which I find more believable than Fox News... But hey, even Fox can't get everything wrong all the time?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8435257.stm
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Then you can rule out iPod touch with camera. That simply can't be a big thing.
Agree that Air should see a price drop and even some changes to be more in line with MacBookPro's. However - this can hardly be a big thing either.
If we say that Apple worked approx. 3 years before releasing the original iPhone - they've had some time to move the iPhone experience in two directions:
1. diversify the phone - basically make a 3" and 3.5" iPhone - with the same pixel size.
2. branch out the iphone or merge with OSX - with a tablet. (Personally i dont understand all the fuss about eBook-reader etc? that's just one of many functionalities a "tablet" should address. and - it should obviously have a 3G or 4G chipset in it).
Everyone is looking at what Apple is doing. And they still have the lead. They know they gotta re-invent now - to push the bar up even more.
My 5cents
Agree that Air should see a price drop and even some changes to be more in line with MacBookPro's. However - this can hardly be a big thing either.
If we say that Apple worked approx. 3 years before releasing the original iPhone - they've had some time to move the iPhone experience in two directions:
1. diversify the phone - basically make a 3" and 3.5" iPhone - with the same pixel size.
2. branch out the iphone or merge with OSX - with a tablet. (Personally i dont understand all the fuss about eBook-reader etc? that's just one of many functionalities a "tablet" should address. and - it should obviously have a 3G or 4G chipset in it).
Everyone is looking at what Apple is doing. And they still have the lead. They know they gotta re-invent now - to push the bar up even more.
My 5cents
Mobility...could be a number of things:
(1) Tablet
(2) Laptop Updates, particularly the Air, which is in dire need of a redesign and price drop
(3) iPod Touch with Camera
Although what I want more than anything is a new Apple TV
Interesting but I still don't think people understand the difference between apps/os.
As to implementation I'm not sure you grasp the human factors issues. They could easily port over the menu bar for example, but it would be very stupid to do so.
The tablet will get an "OS" that is targetted at the consumer devices business. Mac OS/X will take a different route to the future. There may be Touch in that future Mac OS but it will be implemented in a way to solve different problems.
The primary difference here is that a tablet or iPhone only needs to support one input method. That on a handheld device. Large screen monitors familiar to the desktop impose a different set of constraints on what Touch can do for you.
In any event definitions are important here. For me an iPhone based device is one that uses UIKit and associated software from the SDK. Obviously these would be updated libraries but the app structure would be more or less the same.
Dave
That pretty much is what iPhone OS is. The question is which OS would be easier to extend for the new tablet.
You can do that today if the app supports it. By they way I'm agreeing with you here, for me it would be very important to have a more feature complete Safari for example. Saving files, like on the desktop, is one of those features that is missing. But remember these are nothing but apps and as apps it is up to the programmer to give us the required features.
I actually like app store so I'm mixed on this one. Given that alternatives are always good. One alternative I'd like to see is an Apple supported scripting environment beyound Javascript. In this regards I'm talking about Python or Ruby. A good scripting language would lead to an explosion in what i call micro apps.
Unfortunately this is one of the primary reasons that I would see implementing Mac OS/X would lead to failure. The menu bar will not work in a Touch or tablet environment. History is pretty clear here.
Desiring iWork on a tablet is falling off the deep end. Sorry to be so blunt but how would you use iWork apps productively on a tablet. Also why disk utility? My fear here is that you are setting your self up for a device that amounts to a flat laptop. I don't believe Apple has the least bit of interest in delivering such a device.
The ability to mount an external drive would be huge. But this needs to be knocked down to simply supporting a couple of USB ports. While external is good I'd like to see a couple of internal ports supporting the latest SD standard. The ability to expand storage internally would be huge in my mind as it means that portable unit grows with your needs.
Actually I don't care to much about those two. Rather i'd like to see Blutooth support for other devices like port adapters, network adapters and the like. In fact it should be easy for developers to add new drivers for innovative hardware. My guess is that Blutooth might be the only I/O available with no USB support.
First off don't speak for every body here. We may or may not buy based on any number of consideration.
As to implementation I'm not sure you grasp the human factors issues. They could easily port over the menu bar for example, but it would be very stupid to do so.
The tablet will get an "OS" that is targetted at the consumer devices business. Mac OS/X will take a different route to the future. There may be Touch in that future Mac OS but it will be implemented in a way to solve different problems.
The primary difference here is that a tablet or iPhone only needs to support one input method. That on a handheld device. Large screen monitors familiar to the desktop impose a different set of constraints on what Touch can do for you.
In any event definitions are important here. For me an iPhone based device is one that uses UIKit and associated software from the SDK. Obviously these would be updated libraries but the app structure would be more or less the same.
Dave
There is a market for people who despise privacy completely and want nothing more than to sign their lives over to whatever the latest shallow social networking anti-community is currently in vogue. You're assuming Apple is going after that audience. If you're right, look for iPhone OS 4.0 to have similar features to the Motorola interface on Android with regards to display of messages and social network integration. I think and hope you're wrong, however.
Anyway, that market is truly better served by what amounts to glorified messaging phones, not smartphones. The applications don't require the horsepower or interface, and the people who use them usually have seperate devices for games and media. A good portion are minors on pre-paid carriers, and thus are not going to be getting subsidized handsets. Look for Android to turn more and more into a glorified Sidekick, as the developers start to go back to their instincts.
Apple owns the consumer spectrum as of current, but won't forever even if they do maintain a significant hardware and software lead. They only have so much extra market they can actually squeeze from there. They need to get into business.
And a lot of corporations, particularly small businesses, are simply not going to buy into the cloud in the next few decades. Some never will. Google Wave isn't the future for everyone, probably not even most people. In fifty years there will still be people attaching spreadsheets to e-mails. And that isn't a bad thing, unless you're Google.
It will get cheaper for providers like Google to get bigger and bigger, but it will simultaneously get cheaper (and in some cases, possible) for small organizations to establish their own private networks on higher levels.
This is, coincidentally, one of the few extant and significant advantages of Blackberry's platform. Say all the nasty things you will about BES (and there's plenty to say), but it's going to be responsible for the slow adoption rate of cloud services/applications. Corporations are conservative for a reason. Bleeding edges sometimes have blood-borne diseases.
But back to Apple. Relying on Google, an entity that is only shoving its way into the mobile OS sphere to create a slicker platform to deliver ads and generate demo data, is an unwise idea. Even if it would be of short-term assistance to build their devices upon the sand of Google's temporary goodwill, there's always chances of tsunamis.
MobileMe sucks, but it shouldn't have to. If Apple starts going cloud, it's in their best interest to either do it themselves or at least do it outside of the sphere of Google. And to do it on all their platforms, from iPhone, (speculative) tablet, desktop/portable OS X, and OS X Server.
My solemn promise to you all.
I will not watch a play by play of the upcoming event. The few times I've done that, they've announced nothing new or worth mentioning. Like the last apple event...
So I decided I will not watch, which should ensure the most amazing Apple hardware since the iPhone.
Thanks may be offered as text or paypal donations.
I will not watch a play by play of the upcoming event. The few times I've done that, they've announced nothing new or worth mentioning. Like the last apple event...
So I decided I will not watch, which should ensure the most amazing Apple hardware since the iPhone.
Thanks may be offered as text or paypal donations.
I'll give you 50p if you sit with your fingers in your ears shouting "LALALALA" for the entirety of January.
What if?
What would you guys do if Steve Jobs did this:
"Almost 3 years ago Apple announced the iPhone, a revolutionary product that changed mobile phones. Today, we would like to change mobile computing, so we are bringing two aspects of the iPhone, the internet communicator and touchscreen media player, into a tablet device that you have all been waiting for. *takes an iPod touch out of his pocket* This is our tablet, get used to it."
I'd cry.
What would you guys do if Steve Jobs did this:
"Almost 3 years ago Apple announced the iPhone, a revolutionary product that changed mobile phones. Today, we would like to change mobile computing, so we are bringing two aspects of the iPhone, the internet communicator and touchscreen media player, into a tablet device that you have all been waiting for. *takes an iPod touch out of his pocket* This is our tablet, get used to it."
I'd cry.
I'd laugh like hell and plan to spend my money on an MBA instead of the mythical hypeslate
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Zacman, you are 100% correct. Most consumers don't even know what an OS is. It's transparent to them and simply a vehicle used to launch apps.
The hardcore fanboys here like to point out "iPhone OS IS OS X"...Big deal, it uses the same underpinnings, the same core. It doesn't use any other the Mac OS X API's. You can't run "real" Apps in iPhone OS. No MS office, No iPhoto, No iMovie, No Cad, No Project Management, No real programs..
BUT.... AHHH Huh, For $1000 and probably $30 a month, you will be able to do email, surf the web (except for sites that require flash), and (as you point out) make your $1000 device fart and light up. On top of that, Apple will let you pay every month more $$$ for books, Magazines, etc. How cool is that????
I'll stick to with my Macbook. It's a real computer. The rest of you can pay forever to be seen with you money pit of a tablet that looks "delicious" , "is soooooo thin" and of course, ..... is "elegant"..... (These are the qualities that make a fine device in the eyes of fanboys as they mention them in relation to every Apple product)....
And on top of all of that, You can downloads apps that will make it fart.
Zacman, you are 100% correct. Most consumers don't even know what an OS is. It's transparent to them and simply a vehicle used to launch apps.
The hardcore fanboys here like to point out "iPhone OS IS OS X"...Big deal, it uses the same underpinnings, the same core. It doesn't use any other the Mac OS X API's. You can't run "real" Apps in iPhone OS. No MS office, No iPhoto, No iMovie, No Cad, No Project Management, No real programs..
BUT.... AHHH Huh, For $1000 and probably $30 a month, you will be able to do email, surf the web (except for sites that require flash), and (as you point out) make your $1000 device fart and light up. On top of that, Apple will let you pay every month more $$$ for books, Magazines, etc. How cool is that????
I'll stick to with my Macbook. It's a real computer. The rest of you can pay forever to be seen with you money pit of a tablet that looks "delicious" , "is soooooo thin" and of course, ..... is "elegant"..... (These are the qualities that make a fine device in the eyes of fanboys as they mention them in relation to every Apple product)....
And on top of all of that, You can downloads apps that will make it fart.
I'd laugh like hell and plan to spend my money on an MBA instead of the mythical hypeslate
I'd probably do the exact same, possibly buy a new iPod touch & Google Nexus One though ;]
Is it sad that I've saved up $900 for this mythical device so far? And that I'm 14? xD
1. Wouldn't put too much stock into the 10 mil number. It's a rumor based on hearsay. If and when Apple introduces the tablet, they will no doubt play down their expectations. I agree that given that there is no clear market for this tablet, 10 mil is wildly over-estimating.
2. The MacBook Air runs OS X. The tablet will run iPhone OS. They are completely different products for completely different set of users.
3. I don't think there is any solid evidence about the price point. Rumors have been all over the map, from "shockingly low" to $1000-plus. One of the truisms of the Apple rumor mill: Apple will charge more than what most Macrumors forum poster expect the rumored product to cost. Another truism: Apple charges a premium to early adopters. My guess, given the added cost of the big multitouch screen and bigger battery, is that it'll cost a couple hundred more than the iPhone, meaning $400-600 subsidized and $600-800 unsubsidized.
4. Apple will have some content-related announcement to go along with the new hardware, either a new section on iTunes for downloading eBooks or new network TV subscriptions.
ditto. bring it on. im cashed up and waiting for a new mac pro and 13" mbp to add to my collection....
In june-july there will be a new iPhone, the 3G would be dropped and the 8GB 3GS would be the current 3G successor.
I'm really excited about this as I'm looking to buy an ebook reader so plan to hold off now until the end of January, however...
Is it going to be a tablet that displays PDFs or is it going to be an ebook reader? They're certainly not the same thing...
I don't see how they can make an ebook reader that doesn't use eInk. And I can't see how the can create this multimedia tablet without using a real screen.
Is it going to be a tablet that displays PDFs or is it going to be an ebook reader? They're certainly not the same thing...
I don't see how they can make an ebook reader that doesn't use eInk. And I can't see how the can create this multimedia tablet without using a real screen.