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Apple Labels iPhone 12 As 'Legacy' Device, Lists Four Unreleased iPhones in New MagSafe Charger FCC Filing
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What’s your point? My parents had questions, I advised them. They had a price point they wanted to stay at since they are retired and don’t actually use the phone that much. Their iPads are way more important than the iPhone. Are you going to help your mom or just let the Apple Store rep do it? They can, that’s what they’re trained for and you can support what they say or offer your two cents worth or not.
I am not one of those people who thinks Apple should sell one single iPhone for everyone. The market is too large and there are too many competitors slobbering over poaching Apple’s customers if Apple misses a demographic by naively offering one iPhone model (even at 2 sizes) for everyone. The smartphone is no longer a novelty anymore, it’s mainstream and competition is fierce. This isn’t 2007.
That doesn’t preclude Apple offering the iPhone 12 as a “new” model with different storage tiers than what they currently do with the iPhone 11. I guess we’ll find out soon. I’m guessing the XR is gone though. Whether Apple offers the iPhone 12 is a trickier prediction.
Yep, can't believe it's still around after all these years. Still use it on my current iPhone occasionally too.
The iPhone 12 6.1” will eat too much into iPhone 13 6.1” sales. They’re too similar and a lot of people will see the 12 as a better value.
Nice. And that 2007 original actually lasted me just over 3 years, strictly a Cingular (ATT) device back then. But the darn thing was a great phone. But it got slow after the updates. Still powers up today, but I might have a 6-7 min battery life. 😆
Ended up finally upgrading to iPhone 4 in July 2010.
Could be, we’ll know in a week. I can’t see the XR lasting another year, but just maybe. If it does, then everything stays as is other than the 13 replacing the 12 and the 13 Pro replacing the 12 Pro, including current pricing/storage tiers. The 1TB Pro/Pro Max will cost $400 more than the 512GB, so $1699/$1799.
Interesting things are afoot, for sure
Feels like something about MagSafe is changing. The new charger may be backwards compatible with the legacy phones but not have all features.
My biggest complaint with current MagSafe is that it doesn’t work well in a car in a mount that holds a MagSafe puck, if you keep the screen on consistently for something like GPS. The screen being on along with the heat generated by charging is too much and charging slows to a crawl and won’t keep up with usage. It will charge if I lock my phone and keep the screen off.
My guess is this is why neither Apple nor any of the big accessory makers have offered MagSafe charging car mounts. The experience is awful. And car charging was the first want I had when MagSafe was announced. Maybe Apple solved this in the iPhone 13 and needs a new puck as part of the solution?
My biggest complaint with current MagSafe is that it doesn’t work well in a car in a mount that holds a MagSafe puck, if you keep the screen on consistently for something like GPS. The screen being on along with the heat generated by charging is too much and charging slows to a crawl and won’t keep up with usage. It will charge if I lock my phone and keep the screen off.
My guess is this is why neither Apple nor any of the big accessory makers have offered MagSafe charging car mounts. The experience is awful. And car charging was the first want I had when MagSafe was announced. Maybe Apple solved this in the iPhone 13 and needs a new puck as part of the solution?
My iPhone 8 is make out of rocks and wooly mammoth hide.
If the iPhone 12 is retained, I wonder how much different the iPhone 13 will be from it given that all the “new” features (120 hz always on display, camera improvements etc) seem to be meant for the pro models.
The iPhone XX
“We’ve stripped away all the intrusive and obtrusive features, leaving you with a streamlined device that lets you focus on what’s most important during a phone call - the conversation.”
Unfortunately I can't say the same for mine. Battery is craptastic and the lighting port sort of works for charging with some cables, but won't connect for CarPlay anymore. Looks like Apple is gonna get my money again shortly.
Anything can and will happen. I’m not disputing your own conclusions. COVID-19 and the chip shortage have thrown things for a loop, so perhaps Apple will throw nothing out except the 12 as the XR and the 11 are bread and butter, pure gravy cash plays at this point. Looking forward to seeing which of us speculators has guessed correctly.
The thought was that the whole iPhone 12 lineup, including the regular 12, would be discontinued (the article mentioning all models being labeled legacy, including the regular 12). Unlike the 12, which offers quite a jump from the 11 (new design, higher res OLED, 5G), the 13 might not be that a huge difference than the 12 (same design, just faster chip and maybe better camera). Thus I can see Apple discontinuing the whole 12 lineup.
If Apple drops the 12 line (which probably is likely) when the 13 lineup is launched, when would they drop it from their website? Just after the announcement at the event? Or when the 13 is actually available for pre-sale?
Just curious how these things work.
Just curious how these things work.