Apple Launches 2018 MacBook Pros: 8th Gen Core, Up to 32GB of RAM, Third-Gen Keyboard, Quad-Core on 13-Inch and More

[augustya]

Whoa ! Whoa ! Apple ! Hallelujah !! Hail the King !! 32 GB of RAM ! Absolutely didn't expect it !!

That is a huge breaking news !!

 

[BvizioN]

$1,800 base price for a laptop with an i5 and integrated graphics is just ridiculous.

Truth be told, it's not $1.800
It is $1,799

 

[Tofupunch]

I enjoy photography as a hobby. When editing pictures, I'm particular with the colors (white balance, local color adjustments, toning, etc.) and try to get the exact look I'm going for. Won't the True Tone display mess with this? What looks good in a dimly lit room with an incandescent bulb might look different the next morning when the sun is streaming in through the window. Any other creatives see how this could be an issue or not? I don't have an iPad that has TT so I don’t really know. Just my initial impression.

 

[macintoshmac]

Is there seriously a demand for a 13 inch laptop with 32GB RAM? Am I the only one who thinks that's irrational?

It is proof that they listen and are inclined to give people what they want.

 

[waquzy]

Whatever Reason??

A Macbook pro with a 256GB internal? Really? What age are Apple designers living in, 1998?

No Mag Safe
Still the same amount of ports
Poor specs
Same lame keyboard
Way overpriced (a 15" is 2800) due to a lame touchbar that NOBODY CARES...
No Cheaper option without touchbar.

Same old poor design, just internal upgrades.

So sad to see Apple so out of touch with its user base.

Of course no more Mag Safe, Apple isn't bringing things back once they are removed and guess what there won't be a headphone jack on the upcoming iPhones either, so be ready to be disappointed

Same old poor design? lol, its still by far the best design hands down.

Have a nice day btw

 

[poorcody]

I have ordered one of these as I need to go to 16GB from my 8GB 2013 model, but i have not heard of a since professional in the programming/ engineering fields that is a fan of the TouchBar.

As a software developer I love the Touchbar. I have dozens of macros programmed into it for doing all sorts of tasks under both Xcode, Visual Studio via Parallels, and Terminal. If you happen to use Visual Studio Code it is a godsend IMO because of all the keyboard commands. Get the BetterTouchTool utility and play around with it -- you may find you like it.

 

[x-evil-x]

Still, why the Touch Bar ?

to skip youtube ads. Its really the only reason I use mine. Works still with youtube not able to patch one small amount of macbook users. Scrub right to the end and back and the video plays. Brilliant

 

[bodonnell202]

Probably there will be another 13"-ish Mac laptop with the same processor class that currently is inside the 13" MBP escape (15 W TDP) released as a new entry-level later this year. What's curious is that the 12" MB didn't get a processor update as well. My guess would be that they are going to update it in some additional ways beyond a processor upgrade (second USB-C port?).

What would they update with the 12" MB? Intel hasn't released an updated ~5W TDP CPU so the 2017 Macbook is still using the latest CPU available from Intel.

 

[Rogifan]

Steve Jobs did this once--when he removed the FireWire port and then added it back again after significant protest from the prosumer/professional Mac user base.

So one example in roughly 20 years. No one should have expected that.

 

[V-l-a-d-i-m-i-r]

If anybody got the new model and put Boot Camp on it, please try the Trackpad++ driver with it and shoot me an email (or PM there) if it doesn't work. I suspect the trackpad is totally the same, so it should actually work already...

 

[Val-kyrie]

This tells me that John Gruber’s source might be right in that the issue was with a parts supplier product not being to spec vs. a specific flaw in the keyboard design. Also Apple would have the stats on how many users were affected. It does them no good to lie about it.

You mean like how Apple lied about the iPhone 6 Plus. They denied the fact that it bent more easily than the 5S but documents revealed recently have demonstrated that Apple knew the iPhone 6 Plus was 7.7x more likely to bend than the 5S prior to its release! (I had 4 iPhone 6 Plus phones replaced and the replacements were progressively worse than the iPhone they replaced!) There was no problem (/s), yet Apple changed the type of aluminum and the internal design when it built the 6S. This is called plausible deniability, which essentially means reduced (legal) liability.

And apparently Apple is saying the new keyboard isn’t fixing that issue which indicates it wasn’t a design flaw but an issue with a specific part. Anyone who expected them to revert back to an older keyboard design is being disingenuous.

Do you even know what disingenuous means? Try finding a better word, because it doesn't make sense.

That was unexpected. Coffee Lake, improved keyboard, and 32 GB RAM were needed, but this also shatters any hope I had of a display resolution increase or price drop this year...

Apple screens are gorgeous, but they are falling behind in the resolution race. Most PC OEMS now offer native resolutions of 1080p, 1440, and 4k on 13" and 14" screens and 1440 and 2K and 4K resolutions on 15" screens. By comparison Apple's native resolution offers the equivalent screen real estate of 1280x800 on the 13" (and can only scale up to 1050) and 1440x900 on the 15" (and can only scale up to 1920x1200). Yes, Apple offers more dpi, but their screens display less information. The latter is more important to me.
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That’s not what people are getting their keyboards fixed over. I use an iPad without a physical keyboard. Is that an ergonomic flaw too?

Yes.

 

[Rogifan]

No progress with the size of the bezels continues to be a disappointment.
Please, no feedback about where to put the camera. They can keep it on top and still reduce the bezel size.

Didn’t Dell have to move the camera to the bottom to get the bezels smaller? Why are people so obsessed with thin bezels on a laptop?

 

[Val-kyrie]

So one example in roughly 20 years. No one should have expected that.

You asked for an example. I provided one.

Oh, and it was only 10 years ago. whatever

 

[macintoshmac]

As much as I would love to purchase one of these, my 2016 13'' Touch Bar Pro is working just fine with no performance issues and no problems with the keyboard to this point. Only thing I notice is the keyboard tends to get imprinted into the display when closed and dirty which goes away when cleaned thankfully.

If anything with the keyboard replacement program good for the next couple of years and I can just take advantage of it which will likely get me a fresh battery as well and extend the life of the machine for me.

True this. I have the 13" TB 2016, and it just got a keyboard replacement under AppleCare in May (before Apple announced replacement program). I like the notebook well enough. I see how the new ones have improved battery that might be the only real thing that makes a small difference of minutes to the user experience, and yes, True Tone, majorly. But apart from that, for what I use it for, it is good.

I would have been upset if I wanted or had enough HEVC 4K HDR content with me. I do not, so it is fine.

Having said that, I am still going to try to see what prices I get for my notebook in the market. Would love to have the new one, in 15" though.

 

[kruegdude]

The non-touchbar model was not updated. Unbelievable.

Really? Unbelievable? You’re not trying hard enough.

 

[nickftw8686]

That's why you don't put them in tiny thin ultrabooks. Get a laptop with a more realistic form factor and it handles it fine. People are talking about shoving 1060s and 1070s in these things like you can just defy physics and have it not overheat or throttle to the point of just using lesser hardware. That's ultimately why I settled on a beefier chassis like the Thinkpad P52. It can handle the heat with its bigger heatsinks and fans.

Yeah, I was thinking like with the Dell G7 gaming laptop, its kinda thin, but the heat is insane on them and is loud as hell lol.

I would def not want one in a ultrabook that is for sure.

 

[corebeliefs]

Apple: 32 GB. There. Have it. Ya'll happy now?

Love it when the first post is a troll post. Yes, 16 GB was absolutely the biggest debacle it in the history of Apple. I wonder where the class action lawsuit was.

 

[MallardDuck]

How come that the new MacBook pro cost almost 1300 USD more in Europe than in the States. I never understood their pricing, but this is almost half what you pay in the States more.
If this continues, I will have to look at alternatives. This is crazy!

Simple:

20%+ VAT
Mandatory extension of standard warranty
Higher cost of doing business due to corporate taxes and personnel cost
Exchange rate

 

[lakerchick4life]

This was unexpected, figured this would come out in October..Ok Apple now do the iPad Pro

 

[subjonas]

What version of DisplayPort does this support?

 

[FrozenDarkness]

13" mbp with touchbar battery increased from 49.2Wh to 58Wh. Holy crap. A 15% increase and everybody keeps talking about the price.

Listen. Apple is the most valuable company in the world, not some boutique firm. This is a highly competitive industry. Apple will charge what people are willing to pay and people are willing to pay a premium. That's life.

 

[MallardDuck]

Because most users love it, it is very productive

Seriously? Having to move your eyes from the screen and hands from the keyboard to do something you can do with a shortcut key is more productive?

It's a battery sucking, cost enhancing gimmick.

 

[kruegdude]

Unbelievable!!!!!!
Same crappy Radeon Pro 560 rebranded video card!!!!!
F*** U Apple!!!
Dell here I come for your thin mobile workstation!!!!

Thank god! Does that mean you’ll no longer be posting here?

 

[poorcody]

I enjoy photography as a hobby. When editing pictures, I'm particular with the colors (white balance, local color adjustments, toning, etc.) and try to get the exact look I'm going for. Won't the True Tone display mess with this? What looks good in a dimly lit room with an incandescent bulb might look different the next morning when the sun is streaming in through the window. Any other creatives see how this could be an issue or not? I don't have an iPad that has TT so I don’t really know. Just my initial impression.

True Tone on the iPad can be turned on or off in settings, so I assume the same will be true in the MacBook.

 

[Rogifan]

You mean like how Apple lied about the iPhone 6 Plus. They denied the fact that it bent more easily than the 5S but documents revealed recently have demonstrated that Apple knew the iPhone 6 Plus was 7.7x more likely to bend than the 5S prior to its release! (I had 4 iPhone 6 Plus phones replaced and the replacements were progressively worse than the iPhone they replaced!) There was no problem (/s), yet Apple changed the type of aluminum and the internal design when it built the 6S. This is called plausible deniability, which essentially means reduced (legal) liability.

Do you even know what disingenuous means? Try finding a better word, because it doesn't make sense.

When did Apple say anything about the 6 series and whether it was more prone to bending than the 5 series? Do you have a specific quote from Apple where they made that claim? And yes I think it’s disingenuous for Marco Arment to feign outrage that Apple didn’t add back ports or go back to an older design when the times they’ve done it in the past 20 years is next to none. He knows that. He knows they weren’t going to add back USB-A, SD Card or go back to the older keyboard design.

 

[atikalz]

Touchbar? Crappy keyboard? No Buy! I want feedback while working with my fingers.
Why invent forcefeedback for every other device and input method and in the same time miss this on a pro device?