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Apple Launches MacBook Pros with Thunderbolt, Quad Core CPUs, AMD GPUs
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Continuing to read through this thread is giving me a headache. About the only 'fail' apple has is the low res in the 13"
These machines are FAST..
I really don't know what some of you want... and complaining about price.. go spec a similar pc laptop.
I'm not a fanboy, i'd use any os at the right price.. but man, these are NICE machines..
methinks many of you are kids who upgrade every refresh or two.. because those of us using a computer (and yes, it still works fine) for 3-5 years would be overjoyed at the choices.
Again, the only disappointment was sticking to 1280 in the 13".. i'd even take the dual not quad core, but won't cut back to 1280.. I'd rather have the air which is slower and lighter than faster and crappy res.
btw, the dell example is hilarious...
See if the xps will last you 3-5 years.. it won't. Then again, I'm sure it's an upgrade a year for you, at least... oh, and it's a pound heavier.. 20% plus to get any sorta battery life.
These machines are FAST..
I really don't know what some of you want... and complaining about price.. go spec a similar pc laptop.
I'm not a fanboy, i'd use any os at the right price.. but man, these are NICE machines..
methinks many of you are kids who upgrade every refresh or two.. because those of us using a computer (and yes, it still works fine) for 3-5 years would be overjoyed at the choices.
Again, the only disappointment was sticking to 1280 in the 13".. i'd even take the dual not quad core, but won't cut back to 1280.. I'd rather have the air which is slower and lighter than faster and crappy res.
btw, the dell example is hilarious...
See if the xps will last you 3-5 years.. it won't. Then again, I'm sure it's an upgrade a year for you, at least... oh, and it's a pound heavier.. 20% plus to get any sorta battery life.
guys, do you think the imac 27 high end will be in the next refresh i7 standard? what else do you think the next refresh will have? and don't say thunderbolt and facetime hd camera those are obvious
Samesies, I've been using my 15" 07 MBP since I got it and it's ludicrous what I just got today for the same price I paid on the 15".
Old 15":
2.4GHz C2D
256MB 8600GT
160GB 5400rpm HDD
2GB RAM
put in 4GB RAM ($200 from Crucial back then) and a 500GB 7200rpm HDD ($120)
=$2499+$239 for AppleCare+$200+$120=$3100ish
New 17":
2.3GHz Core i7 Quad
1GB 6570m
750GB 5400rpm HDD
4GB RAM
put in 8GB ($91 from Newegg) and a 750GB 7200rpm HDD ($120)
=$2588+$239 for AppleCare+$91+$120=$3200
Solid.
I'm sorry, enjoy your quad core e-peen for 600 bucks. I'm sure I can find a quad core core i5 somewhere for about the same price.
The argument isn't moot, the MBP is still grossly overpriced and warrant at least a 100 dollar price reduction or at least a bump in the pointless specs like video card and screen resolution (256mb vram? seriously apple? ****ing bean counters)
You have the exact same specs as my macbook. Except mine is a late 2006 model.
So pointing out that Mac hardware is overpriced by HUNDREDS is saying we can't afford it? Maybe it's just pointing out the fact that anybody buying a Mac gets ripped off.
The fact remains that you are paying $300-$400 more for a separate OS. I've done it before, and I may do it again. But to call someone 'poor' for not wanting to pay a VERY expensive premium (~ 20%) for what is really just a preference (Windows is MUCH better in many things, as is OSX) is idiotic.
That Processor is waaaaay better than yours, sorry. Also double the ram and increased battery life, better GPU, reason enough for me to upgrade.
Uh, but that's not what the other poster was pointing out at all. He wasn't comparison shopping. He was showing an older computer without Sandy Bridge, with a slower GPU, not a comparable machine at all.
Of course it's going to come out cheaper when it isn't up to spec. Compare machines that are comparable and you'll find Apple isn't so far off mark, especially right after a refresh.
You troll get out of here and go to the XPS forums, if we wanted Dell crap we wouldnt be here. And no your XPS doesnt compare to Any Mac, Id rather have my C2D Mac over Crap Dell.
kthxbye
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Id pay 1000 dollars extra for a better OS, Al unibody, thinness and long battery life...
Find a computer that has the Power, Weight, Build, Battery that a MBP 13, 15, and 17 have, then we will see the extra price of the OS. Oh yeah make sure it can Run OSX too like Macs can Run Windows.
Its my money I want the best, dont hate.
OSX in my opinion as a student that does not game but does use computers a lot is leagues better than any windows, yes even W7. Its just smoother and more efficient per the same specs.
Go look around your house and see how much stuff you have is made in china.. and then take apart your car and do the same.
This whole racist idea is ridiculous. Grow up.
Doubly so if you are over the age of thirty.
I'm gonna cry if no one gives me their 2 cents, 4500rpm or 7200rpm? I run a lot of programs like photoshop, video/audio editing, dj software, etc etc... please? thank you
7200 without a doubt. Huge difference on file access.
~17%, ie clock speed difference.
Difference between encoding speed between i7 13" and i7 15" will be almost an extra 50%. You sure you don't want to go to the 15"?
If video encoding software ever goes to OpenCL, then the high end 15" would outperform even the low end 15" by like an order of magnitude. But it probably won't happen, at least for a while.
Damn straight.
Still disappointed with lack of blade SSD. Would rather have that than Light Peak.
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I was going to buy my first mac, the 13 low end MBP, but the redesign was very important to me, i didn`t want to buy a mac that will be getting a complete redesign in 9 months or less. I don´t needed since i have a 6 months old hp with great specs, i just wanted to buy a mac but i believe i`ll be waiting for the next generation MBP
You know, I was not going to reply but I cant bite my tongue.
- I have never ever, ever ever, never once used my computer away from a power source for 10 hours. When would you ever, ever need that anyway? When would you need that for 7 hours? I dont understand.
Sure more = better. But how is that the deal breaker. I dont know anyone who uses there computer that long every day any where a power plug is not even remotely available. Even when im flying from the US to Japan (12 hour flight sometimes) I cant stare at my computer that long. You fall asleep lol.
I understand that it may be frustrating that the battery went down. But its not like it dropped to unrealistic levels like 2 hours or something. 7 hours! thats a whole work day. So how is this "The deal breaker" when you have gained so so so much. Quad Core Sandy Bridges. Finally Quad Core in a thin and sheik notebook. WAY better GPUs. I mean, almost 3 fold. 4GB Mem Standard, 8 Support. WAY more than enough for a 'notebook'
So with all the amazing upgrades. How is 7 hours of battery so bad you have no interest whatsoever? Please explain because your ignorance has given me a headache.
It's not about racism - it's that Apple products are made on cheap labor. If Apple was truly premium, we'd get Made in the USA.
Apple just gets a cheaply made PC, slaps OS X on it and charges a premium price? Apple is horrible. There is no reason Mac prices should be so high. OS X is only $130, which is about the same as Windows 7 (correct me if I am wrong), so OS X cannot be the reason!
Are you kidding? Instead of a physical port you will now need to pack in half a dozen dongles and hubs. What is the difference? Please tell me you are joking.
Wrong.
$130 is only upgrade pricing, you need an existing OS X license to be able to use that $130 copy of OS X you've bought.
So you can say that OS X costs $1000, basically the difference between a PC and an equivalent Mac.
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I would never use less than a 7200 rpm drive. Especially if you have large files, or many many small files such as billions of pictures.
But... SSD > HDD
Companies charge what people will pay. If the past years are any indication, people are fine paying what macs cost. I, for one, do not feel Apple's laptops are overpriced. Mine (2.4 C2D, 6 GB ram, 512 vram) has been wonderful and worth every penny I put into it.
I think the best of Apple's R&D and QC goes into their portable machines.
Huh? Are you referring to Snow Leopard's price? Because...you don't need Leopard installed to install Snow Leopard, and last I checked Snow Leopard was $49. What am I missing here?
Yea I bought it around 11:30 est. Ive never owned a mac before but this is really nice! My two choices were the high end 13 or low end 15. I unfortunatly didnt have the extra 300 dollars and i just like the size of the 13 more. I dont do much gaming or anything visually just the regular surfing, lurking, listening to music and playing minecraft while doing homework!