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Backlit-Keyboard

WTF!?

Am i right that there are no more backlit-keyboards in the Macbooks !?!?
 
personally, i HATE greedy people with a passion! people out there dont have jobs, money etc.

Apple is the new BP! all take no give! Perfect example now, they are charging to use Facetime on the MPB, charging LOL. ok the cost is only .59p but comon thats really PATHETIC!

It's a premium product, there will always be cheaper alternatives. What they must be careful of is that it remains premium and doesn't start to be seen as overpriced for what your getting. People are happy to pay a little extra for what is seen as the premium brand, but people will not stand to be blatantly ripped off. Apple are at the outer limit of their pricing in my opinion, and some (esp external to U.S) will feel they are asking too much here.
 
In theory with Thunderbolt's 10gb/s bandwidth, how many 2560x1600 displays can you daisy chain? My dream is to have 2 maybe 3 of those. I have 3 1920x1200 monitors hooked up to my early 2008 MBP, (one DVI, and the other two using one of those USB to DVI devices - terrible refresh rate but great for static content).

Won't a single 2560x1600 display effectively eat up the majority of that 10gb/s? When I heard about lightpeak, I was excited cause I thought they'd be running a bunch of ports, not just one.
 
13-inch. Starts at $1199. 15-inch. Starts at $1799. 17-inch. Starts at $2499.

13-inch. Starts from € 1.149. 15-inch. Starts from € 1.749. 17-inch. Starts from € 2.499.

Who else thinks this is just wrong? 1 U.S. dollar = 0.72 Euros

yeah seriously, converted to €, the high end 15" would cost a little more than the high end 13" in europe.. :p
 
This is a joke. How can you release an update for a computer and at the same time, not increase screen resolution, and decrease battery life?

How on God's Earth is the 13" MBP still shipping with a 1280 x 800 screen.
Obviously 1440 x 900 is possible (see MBA).

I sold my 2010 13" MBP in anticipation of a 1440 x 900 one today. Looks like I'm just going to go get a Macbook Air now. This is ridiculous.

I think Apple has done you a favor to be honest. :) The MacBook Air is a great machine. I thought the slow CPU would be a real problem for me. It's not. I can do all my creative suite stuff on there quite comfortably, and I love the 1440x900 display. And the machine is ridiculously light.
 
2,3GHZ core i3 thats nothing faster than the previous C2D 2,4Ghz.
It's just a new name for almost the same processor

Are you serious? Sandy Bridge will absolutely annihilate any Core 2 processor, regardless of clock speed or number of cores. And on top of that, they have Hyperthreading.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/49?vs=287

Here's a comparison of a desktop Core 2 Quad to a Sandy Bridge i7. Not even close.
 
What absolute *******s.

They really screwed the UK over with this.

USD Price for the LOWEST spec one: $1199

This converts to GBP at £740 (todays rate)

Apple are selling it for £999! :eek:

You'd have to be a complete moron to be willing to pay that for such a poor spec 13" model!

They really are taking the piss big time with those prices. For another £300 you can buy a Mac Pro for goodness sake!

I'm pretty sure your prices include your ridiculously high VAT, ours do not include any tax (which will be added to the final price). Also, if you want to get mad at someone, I'd bet your protectionary import tariffs probably have something to do with higher costs to Apple as well.

Someone has to pay for the NHS, why not you!
 
I'm so glad that I bought my 13" for the 2010 refresh when it had a GOOD graphics card in it.

The new 15/17 's look nice though, albeit expensive. Never heard of those nvidia cards before.
 
Well, with specs like those, I am happy with the white Macbook work gave me in December. They bought me the Macbook, plus 8GB DDR3 ram and a 500GB 7200rpm WD Scorpio Black drive for it. Yes, it is only a C2D running at 2.4 GHz, but I wouldn't have noticed much of a speed difference because the Core i5 and Core i7 processors in the new MBP computers are going to be bottleneck by being mated to a much slower 5400 rpm hard drive.

Mine is more than powerful enough for now. Yes, that 15" MBP is drool worthy (as I can alway upgrade the HD and RAM myself), but with a new house, paying for grad school at night, car payments, and other expenses - there is no 15" MBP in my future.

My 13" 2.4 GHz MB with 8GB DDR3 ram and 500GB 7200rpm hard drive is more than powerful enough to display to its own 13" LCD and also output to an external 22" monitor, while running several apps, and Windows 7 in a Virtual Machine with Visual Studio 2008 running.
 
The 13" update is literally a joke. It's really like Apple hates the 13" size. They didn't give the 13" new processors last year, and this year, they **** on it again by not bumping the resolution.

I guess they're going to push towards the 13" MBA as the 13" of the future.
 
LoL @ the people moving from a 13 inch to the 15 just to get better specs. :apple:'s incremental ploy works again. Welcome to the rape. The 15 inch prices are stratospherically high in comparison to everything else on the market. No I'll get one of those G3 Intel SSDs which will make everything feel faster that this lame update.

The AMD Radeon HD 6750M graphics processor with 1GB of GDDR5 memory on 2.2GHz configuration is a big deal to anyone working with OpenCL. That one is of interest to my needs.
 
I'm good with my C2D MBA 13", great machine. However, I'm waiting for MBA+Lion+LP+Ivy Bridge combo: it's going to be amazing.

+1

same here. Apple will def. have to include LP+Lion, I wonder how they're going to milk the cow after the next MBA update :rolleyes:
So I'll wait and get a MBA. Today's 13" update is not good enough, although it's not as horrendous as some people claim (come on they have i5s ;) ), but it's just not much better than the last one. They had a years time to improve, and they did little.
 
I should have you note that Apple notebooks have been cheaper lately than they've been in YEARS.

Back in 2003, to pick up a 15" Powerbook G4 you had to START at $2500 for a decent system!

Now you can get a 15" Macbook Pro for $1700 and on top of that, the dollar isn't worth as much as it used to be so it's even less.

Stop bitching about pricing, people. And you can't compare Macbooks to cheap flimsy plasticy Dell/HP stuff. I'm sorry, but no.

Edit for those who don't believe me: http://web.archive.org/web/20030402060702/www.apple.com/powerbook/index15.html
 
nop, your not right. all books have backlit.

Oh, i see. But in the german tech-specs of the new MBP they forgot to write that. Nothing there about "Hintergrundbeleuchtung" (<-backlit).
But, luckily in the english specs they wrote "backlit keyboard".

Damn, that was a shock for me :)
 
--No 8 GB RAM BTO option?
--No 7200 RPM HDD BTO option?
--No SSD BTO option?

And for the 13" people,

--No 1440x900 res BTO option?


The lack of RAM/HDD/SSD options has got to be a typo...?

They will all be there, except for 13" display, and overpriced as usual. Apple profits too much from those BTO options.
 
I'm so glad that I bought my 13" for the 2010 refresh when it had a GOOD graphics card in it.

The new 15/17 's look nice though, albeit expensive. Never heard of those nvidia cards before.

The 3000 has comparable performance to the 320M.

That being said, the top quad core can't be the 2720M. That part only has 6 MB of cache. It's a 2820M.

edit: I don't know if I misread or the story was wrong on the above, but I thought the original story had said the 2720M had 8MB of cache, which wasn't true.
 
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Where are the UK prices listed? The online store is still down...

Itching to find out cos I was able to afford a 15" with high specs before, not sure if I'll be able to stretch to that now.

Cheers.

Check here KumaYama:

http://www.apple.com/uk/macbookpro/specs-compare.html

I found this refresh bit disappointing purely because of AMD 6490 with 256 MB - I really doubt this GPU will be significantly faster than Intel's HD 3000 and although shared and slower than GDDR5 memory on AMD, Intel HD 3000 has more memory available. I am not sure whether this will help with the graphics performance at all or not.

:(
 
I'm confounded and supremely irritated that there is no HD option in the 13" MBP, when its so clearly available in the MBA.
 
The real question is...

the real question now is, whether to get this minor update, or wait 6 months and get a complete update/redesign. this is my first mb and im the type of person who needs to have the latest and greatest. so, should i wait it out till the next complete update (which will probably be in 6 or so months) or jump on it now and probably kick myself 6 months from now when theres a huge update and im stuck with last generation? :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
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