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Just ordered that one without customisation, because of the shipping time:


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If I am not able to upgrade the RAM myself and/or the 2 TB Fusion Drive does not have at least a 120 GB SSD, I will return it.

I will separate the SSD from the HDD and perhaps might not even use the HDD at all.

I don't need much space, but it has to be fast and I love do have large retina display.

Maybe the HDD could be replaced later with a standard SSD.

Why would you separate the FD? It will run at full ssd speed if you do nothing. Separating it just means you have to think about where your data goes instead of letting the computer manage it, keeping those things you use often on ssd and moving things not used to the hdd.
 
Very disappointed with the update but it's in line with what I was expecting for the 21" model. I have been holding off buying new for a while waiting to see if Apple could persuade me to stick with the iMac but they have failed. In the past I have worked on a PC in an office and used an iMac at home. I could justify the Apple tax for the much nicer experience. Now I work for myself from home and all the software I need runs perfectly fine on a cheaper PC. The 21" model is a dud now and for coding work I have always preferred 2 screens over the 27". Due to the drop in my local currency the new models have had a healthy price bump and there are no official Apple stores here. Anything other than the simplest repair means sending the Mac off overseas for 2 weeks minimum, not something I can live with for a work machine.
Here's hoping for a good Mac Mini update next year. I can pick one up for the savings made switching to a PC now.
 
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Here's hoping for a good Mac Mini update next year. I can pick one up for the savings made switching to a PC now.
Assuming they won't place a 4800 RPM 160GB hard drive permanently attached to the computer with 2GB of soldered RAM and a processor clocked at 800 MHz along with the cover permanently melted to the case so it's unopenable while obviously keeping the same price and the marketing line "The future of computers" slapped on. :)
 
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Eesh, no Thunderbolt 3, that makes it obsolescent, no USB C makes it obsolete! Right out of the gate. Cripes, their bottom of the line macbook has USB C.

I was hoping for a 5K with TB3 this month so I could upgrade my mid-2010 iMac 27. One connector to rule them all, and I should be good for another five years. But this is just a minor refresh, not really a big upgrade to get excited about. I guess I'll have to nurse this old computer along for another 6 months.
 
Why would you separate the FD? It will run at full ssd speed if you do nothing. Separating it just means you have to think about where your data goes instead of letting the computer manage it, keeping those things you use often on ssd and moving things not used to the hdd.

All my data fits on the 128 GB SSD and the HDD will shut down and is quiet if not used. I could also use it for backups and don't need any external drive for that.
 
For my purposes the i5 is fast enough and will not heat up my whole apartment. ;)

Why spending 300 € extra if I don't need it?

I will replace the 2 x 4 GB with 2 or 4 x 8 GB, perhaps DDR4 if it is possible. I'll have to wait until I know that.

Good news, look at this post: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/10/13/27-inch-imac-supports-64-gb-ram/

I would still recommend you to get the i7, so this iMac will last you several years.

Trust me on this...
I usually tell people to take the faster processor whenever possible and their usual answers are: "I don't need it!" "I'll never use that much power/storage/memory".

Then a year later, then come crying to me why their computer/device is not as fast or doesn't have the capacity or runs out of memory...
Sadly, all I can tell them is: "I told you so, but you didn't listen..."
 
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Force Touch is great, but I don't want to have to get rid of accessories just because the battery wears down over time and won't hold a charge. Also, like @EvilEvil said in another thread, where they've put the connector on the Magic Mouse means you can't use it while it's charging. So if you forget to charge it and it dies on you while your using that new iMac, you're screwed.

I have these odd keyboards and mice which connect to the stationary desktop computer via cable. They never have any problems with batteries running down nor with radio interference. It's the oddest thing. ;-)
 
I will use it only for reading and writing on macrumors.com. :D That's why I don't need the i7, not even in 10 years.

I just want that brilliant screen!
 
Did I mention the iMac as a gaming computer? I don't think so! And if I did, I was wrong. Maybe the Mac Pro.
Best gaming computers are the ones you build yourself with handpicked components, not an HP Pavillion sold at Costco.

Magic Trackpad 2 requires Bluetooth 4.0 ???

I just saved myself from having to decide to get it and $149.95 plus tax.

Too bad. I'm not buying a new iMac any time soon.
Maybe not you, but a lot of people here are whining about the lack of dGPU for gaming, mate

The reviews are already in -

From Ars Technica:

Key travel is somewhere in between the old wireless keyboard and the extremely shallow travel in the MacBook, but the feel is more MacBook-y than Apple Wireless Keyboard-y. If you've already gotten used to the travel in the MacBook, you'll have no problem adjusting to this one. If you're used to the travel in the Apple Wireless Keyboard or in the MacBook Pro or Air, you may hate the way the new one feels.

So yes, if the keyboard travel has gone down, and I am used to the lovely key travel in the old keyboard, them it is a downgrade.



Um, an iGPU is underpowered for a Retina Display Mac. A huge resolution increase with a integrated GPU is not a good idea. Plus when you're paying a lot of money for an iMac, its a bit of a rip off not having a discrete CPU. But don't let that get in the way of defending Apple.
I think it's better to actually TRY it before judge it.

Regarding the iGPU, games apart, did you see any poor benchmark about the new iMac ?
I've yet to analyze the reviews ...
I think you are complaining to much about that. A good iGPU isn't so far from a medium level dGPU, if you are not planning to play at 4K on an iMac (wrong choice)

Then ask yourself the question, why there are tons of games in the App Store in the first place? Not to mention Steam.

This is one of Apple's mistakes IMO. They treat gamers as second class citizens, with their consumer desktop computers. Alone the fact that they still using an older version of OGL, makes me cringe as a game developer.

I'm really a fan of the iPhones and Apple's Notebooks.(owning a MBP) But the desktop computers, despite the design and OS are quite underwhelming. I mean there isn't even a dedicated GPU in one of the 21 iMacs and just 8 gigs of RAM for all standard configurations. Even all 17inch MBP's have 16gigs.
Im not a gamer on the Mac (PS4 and Xbox One in my home), but the games Im seeing on the store are very basic one, and you can use a iGPU to play those games....
 
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Im not a gamer on the Mac (PS4 and Xbox One in my home), but the games Im seeing on the store are very basic one, and you can use a iGPU to play those games....

There are quite a lot demanding games on the AppStore like Shadow of Modor, Arkham City and Metro Last Light. Needless to say that these are often watered down by default, or you have to play them on lower settings, which is a shame really. Just read the reviews.
iMacs indeed are not meant to be full gaming rigs. But still you could have a better gaming experience, if Apple would put some effort into oGL (they are even a member of the Khronos group who develops oGL) and better hardware.
There are plenty of people who enjoy OS X and love playing games.

But Apple cares more about their margins and thus using third grade mobile chipsets and integrated GPU's with low RAM and outdated HDD's in their newest iMac line-up and offer really hefty upgrade prices. It's a pity.
 
It seems the only thing worth the upgrade a CTO iMac with a beefier HDD. I don't know what Apple doesn't just make Fusion standard, or at the very least give us 256GB SSD standard since we're moving everything to the cloud. Even a Fusion that has a 5400rpm drive would be a better option standard.

I don't know. There's no understanding how Apple does these things.

I know that the iMac is a nice desktop all things in regards to an all in one considered. The full maxed out 27" (minus the RAM) is still a price that 's hard to beat. I am not too sure about the 21.5" unless you're in the business market and need to save space. Either way, any model need an SSD and tons of RAM.

They can keep the mouse, or i'll just give it to someone how doesn't need to use it 8+ hours a day and stick to the real input devices Logitech makes.
 
Good news, look at this post: https://www.macrumors.com/2015/10/13/27-inch-imac-supports-64-gb-ram/

I would still recommend you to get the i7, so this iMac will last you several years.

Trust me on this...
I usually tell people to take the faster processor whenever possible and their usual answers are: "I don't need it!" "I'll never use that much power/storage/memory".

Then a year later, then come crying to me why their computer/device is not as fast or doesn't have the capacity or runs out of memory...
Sadly, all I can tell them is: "I told you so, but you didn't listen..."
And what if someone comes to you 1 year later and tells you how they never used the extra ram or storage that you advised them to buy? Do you then refund them the extra money they spent on it?

It's easy to tell people to max out on upgrades when it's not your money that you are spending.
 
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