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Apple Launches New 4K & 5K iMacs, Magic Keyboard, Magic Mouse 2 and Magic Trackpad 2

trifid said:
I can see it coming...

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Our rhetoric, stop ripping us off; as your longtime term customers.
I think over the past few years, we have noticed incremental and surreptitious price hikes. Where manufacturing costs have fallen and components such as nand flash has decreased significantly, apple have remained rigid with their lewd ad ostentatious upgrade taxes. This had previously been warranted as apple also, under Jobs, allowed customisability and the ability for one to upgrade the hdd, ram, with ease. Over the past few years, not only are we getting rubbish components, but the non upgradability and extortionate upgrade taxes are beginning to 'p' many apple fans off.

If the iphone fashion brigade suddenly all ditched the iphone for the next 'it' gadget, apple may find that their mac fans may have deserted them too, if they continue to undermine us with such whimsical, lacklustre and capricious 'upgrades'. Come on apple, be consistent, why no alpine ridge, and why no support for 'Rezence' the trackpad, keyboard and mouse could all have been made compatible for wireless charging, or even inductive charging.

I for one will veto this iteration, and hope those responsible see sense in their blunder and damn right idiocy.

I was planning on buying the 27" 5k maxxed out Imac, however will wait until certain major flaws have been addressed, as outlined in my post above [post 666]

The potential of skylake:
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...sh-all-pc-cables-by-2015-what-a-terrible-idea
But two areas have remained resolutely off-limits for wireless tech: Power delivery and outputting to a display. Until now. Kinda.

The thing is, we can wirelessly transmit power fairly efficiently with magnetic resonance, but the range is still very short (a few inches) and your device needs to be placed fairly exactly (you can’t move around with the device; it has to sit on some kind of charging plate). We can beam data to a TV or monitor using WiGig — but with a max speed of around 7Gbps (in perfect conditions), there’s a pretty hard cap on the resolution and frame rate; you won’t be playing a video game at 4K via WiGig any time soon, put it that way. WiGig uses the 60GHz band, which requires line of sight and only works over short range (a few meters).

But, seemingly, none of this is going to stop Intel. At Computex 2014, the company showed off a range of prototype devices that use WiGig and Rezence (magnetic resonance charging) to achieve cable-free nirvana. There was a wooden table with Rezence tech built-in, which could wirelessly charge an Intel tablet sitting on top. There were some WiGig displays. By the time Skylake rolls around, probably in 2015 or 2016, it seems that Rezence and WiGig will be built into the platform — or at least an easy addition to the platform — allowing OEMs to push out lots laptops that can be joyously marketed as “cable-free.”
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Erdbeertorte said:
Just ordered that one without customisation, because of the shipping time:


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If I am not able to upgrade the RAM myself and/or the 2 TB Fusion Drive does not have at least a 120 GB SSD, I will return it.

I will separate the SSD from the HDD and perhaps might not even use the HDD at all.

I don't need much space, but it has to be fast and I love do have large retina display.

Maybe the HDD could be replaced later with a standard SSD.
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The 2 TB and above Fusion Drives do come with the original 128 GB SSD chip, and the 27-inch models still have 4 user accessible RAM slots to expand yourself.
 
Glassed Silver said:
Apple pushes for new technology, that means you either pony up the upgrade price or they make that decision for you and remove something, not passing on the savings. (*cough* optical drive *cough*)

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I wish the iMac had an optical drive.

I have a heap of DVDs, and, amazingly, I haven't thrown them all away. Guess I’ll have to make do with a tacked-on drive. Makes the all-in-one experience not quite all-in-one. All-in-two, in fact.
 
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Amazing Iceman said:
Ouch you're spending that kind of money and not getting an i7 processor? And only 8GB RAM?
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Why does i7 matter? Faster Ghz and hyper threading? What if he just wants a 5k display for light photo editing and web browsing? He wouldn't need an i7 in that case. Typically the i7 upgrades offer 10% more performance so not everyone will find them attractive.

The RAM on 27" is user upgradeable so he can always upgrade to 16 or 32GB at a later time. 2-3K is a lot for a computer so if a RAM upgrade can be saved for next year, it makes the initial cost better.
 
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Amazing Iceman said:
Ouch you're spending that kind of money and not getting an i7 processor? And only 8GB RAM?
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For my purposes the i5 is fast enough and will not heat up my whole apartment. ;)

Why spending 300 € extra if I don't need it?

I will replace the 2 x 4 GB with 2 or 4 x 8 GB, perhaps DDR4 if it is possible. I'll have to wait until I know that.
 
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johnnyturbouk said:
Where gamers and feminists agree in unison.
Our rhetoric, stop ripping us off; as your longtime term customers.
I think over the past few years, we have noticed incremental and surreptitious price hikes. Where manufacturing costs have fallen and components such as nand flash has decreased significantly, apple have remained rigid with their lewd ad ostentatious upgrade taxes. This had previously been warranted as apple also, under Jobs, allowed customisability and the ability for one to upgrade the hdd, ram, with ease. Over the past few years, not only are we getting rubbish components, but the non upgradability and extortionate upgrade taxes are beginning to 'p' many apple fans off.

If the iphone fashion brigade suddenly all ditched the iphone for the next 'it' gadget, apple may find that their mac fans may have deserted them too, if they continue to undermine us with such whimsical, lacklustre and capricious 'upgrades'. Come on apple, be consistent, why no alpine ridge, and why no support for 'Rezence' the trackpad, keyboard and mouse could all have been made compatible for wireless charging, or even inductive charging.

I for one will veto this iteration, and hope those responsible see sense in their blunder and damn right idiocy.

I was planning on buying the 27" 5k maxxed out Imac, however will wait until certain major flaws have been addressed, as outlined in my post above [post 666]

The potential of skylake:
http://www.extremetech.com/computin...sh-all-pc-cables-by-2015-what-a-terrible-idea
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Preach brother.
 
Gudi said:
Now all there is left for you to do, is to leave MacRumors and register on some Microsoft forum, will you?
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P.S. And of course the Surface Type Cover for 149,99 € comes without a numpad.
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Wow, they're ripping you guys off. I paid $89.79 for mine, brand new, shipping and tax included. Also, it's got adjustable backlights and doesn't need charging. I think my account at windowscentral is older than the one I have here.
 
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bbeagle said:
'In this economy' - what is 'this' economy - the one YOU live in, or the one the KARDASHIANS live in?

Hint: It's both.

$129 is nothing to me. I spend $100 here and there about 3-4 times a week on dumb stuff. $129 is a LOT to many people. But 'In this economy' means nothing. Some people make a lot, some don't. Apple is betting that there are a lot of people that are in the good part of the economy who will buy their high-end products.
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Interesting perspective, however:

1. The Kardashians are not the epitome of the ultra rich, sorry, but you may want to look at forbes or the FT, rather than MTV or youtube personalities. I appriecate the ultra rich may represent a large component of luxary goods, however, apple was not always just a style icon for the ultra rich. They were once an alternative to those of us that despised the dogma and reliability issues with windows and microsoft.

2. $129 is more than what some people earn in a month, in a vast majority of third world states. For them $129 is a huge amount, it means clean water, basic sanitation, medicine for their children. When i volunteered in Africa during my medical training, and you see dehydrated babies dying all around you, you begin to see how even $2 makes a massive difference. $129 may be nothing for you, but it is the difference between life and death for others. :mad:

3. If $129 is nothing for you, then why not contribute towards MR? :confused:
 
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Erdbeertorte said:
Just ordered that one without customisation, because of the shipping time:


View attachment 592398


If I am not able to upgrade the RAM myself and/or the 2 TB Fusion Drive does not have at least a 120 GB SSD, I will return it.

I will separate the SSD from the HDD and perhaps might not even use the HDD at all.

I don't need much space, but it has to be fast and I love do have large retina display.

Maybe the HDD could be replaced later with a standard SSD.
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Why not go for the 256 SSD, then add an external TB or usb hard drive. The PCi-e ssd is lightening fast, and external tbs.usbs drives are dirt cheap now.
 
btrach144 said:
Why does i7 matter? Faster Ghz and hyper threading? What if he just wants a 5k display for light photo editing and web browsing? He wouldn't need an i7 in that case. Typically the i7 upgrades offer 10% more performance so not everyone will find them attractive.
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This is a non argument. Someone always comes along and says this, but the point is what you are getting for the price. That matters to a lot of people otherwise why not pay bmw prices for ford fiesta's? It gets you around to where you want to go. Saying overpaying is ok because it's all you need is a ridiculous argument.

The wife has an i7 laptop with dedicated graphics, 17", she got for under 900.00 and paying a couple grand to get dedicated graphics is where I personally draw the line. I am about a good computer a.t a good price, not making tim cook richer. Some It's about the money and his bonuses. Period.
 
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Benjamin Frost said:
I wish the iMac had an optical drive.

I have a heap of DVDs, and, amazingly, I haven't thrown them all away. Guess I’ll have to make do with a tacked-on drive. Makes the all-in-one experience not quite all-in-one. All-in-two, in fact.
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I hate to say this but I save space, money, and weight by just using a USB CD/DVD burner. There are Blu-ray options too. It is not trapped in a single computer and if I do not want it around I just put it into storage until I need it again. This applies to my Windows desktop and Mac laptop.
 
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Max(IT) said:
vote with your wallet then .... no reason to be a drama queen over a forum.
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Exactly, he should know better than to come to a mac forum and talk about the latest upgrade. Wait. Isn't it you who is in the wrong place?

kds1 said:
Why the **** do I feel that you're just paying more for less with the 2015 iMac?
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Exactly the point, just like the last mini update. Apple is being more than obvious with the money grab.
 
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Toltepeceno said:
This is a non argument. Someone always comes along and says this, but the point is what you are getting for the price. That matters to a lot of people otherwise why not pay bmw prices for ford fiesta's? It gets you around to where you want to go. Saying overpaying is ok because it's all you need is a ridiculous argument.

The wife has an i7 laptop with dedicated graphics, 17", she got for under 900.00 and paying a couple grand to get dedicated graphics is where I personally draw the line. I am about a good computer a.t a good price, not making tim cook richer. Some It's about the money and his bonuses. Period.
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I'm confused. I starting reading your post and thought you disagreed with me, then halfway through I thought you were agreeing with me, then finally at the end I'm not even sure if you knew what you were talking about.

Anyways, buying a $900 used MacBook is different than buying a $3k+ brand new iMac so you can't really compare the two. Again, the buyer may not have been able to afford the $250 i7 upgrade so an i5 27" 5k iMac is still better than an i7 21" 4k iMac. Just my opinion though.
 
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The sad thing is that the third party manufacturers creating peripherals seem to kick Apple's butt. Where's the innovation in the keyboard? Just look at Logitech's diNovo Edge, from 2007. I am tempted by the Magic Trackpad, because they brought forth Forcetouch, but it could have been so much more. Compatibility with the Apple Pencil would have been a nice feature. Alas, most people here are put off by the price, and I wouldn't blame you. I shall be clutching onto my original trackpad for a while longer.
 
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