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It probably takes a long time because they have to redirect all the links (there are probably a lot), update images, update literature & test everything so that nothing broke in the process of the update.

That is is 1995. Most respectable stores have software that does that instantly. Just ask Amazon.
 
Best iMac model for app development?

I've been waiting for Apple to announce their lower cost iMac to see what the specs would be. What does everyone think is the best iMac model for building an app? I'm a new developer and am just starting to learn how to code, so I'm certainly not making Infinity Blade here! But I also want to make sure I get a new Mac that has good specs to support app development.

My thought is that is should be a quad core chip and have at least 16gb of ram. I'm uncertain about the graphics card. I don't think the lower priced iMac has good enough specs for what I'm looking to do, but would love to hear what others think!

Thanks!
 
You: "If touch screens had come first, people would view the mouse as an incredible labor-saving device."

Me: I rarely read really good points here. This is actually really insightful. You could also add trackpads as they proportionally cover large screen real estate with gestures as well as pointing and click.

I can't help but agree with this. I think if it wasn't for trackpads, Apple would have considered touchscreens as more of an option.
 
Maybe Intel knows something about Apple in house CPU development and they're angry? I'm totally speculating here.

It's safe to say that Intel is quite pleased to be selling chips to Apple, and is making a lot of money doing it.
 
In 3-4 years, release it as "the next step in desktop computing"

I've never liked the idea of a touch screen desktop. I just can't see the uses of it, I feel like it would just be awkward to use. Who knows, I could be vastly wrong and all desktops could feature touch screens in a few years!
 
For $200 more:

Dual Core i5 1.4GHz -> Quad Core i5 2.7GHz
500Gb HDD -> 1Tb HDD
Intel HD 5000 -> Intel Iris Pro

If you only do browsing, email and some Office/iWork stuff, it's good enough, but that price difference seems...odd...BUT I know it's not "random".
 
You clearly don't understand the market for this machine. As the lowest priced all-in-one desktop Apple makes, it appeals directly to the everyday moms and dads who want the lowest price all-in-one computer that Apple makes. That's it. These people don't know a megahertz from a megabyte, they don't know what integrated graphics means, and they certainly aren't going on Internet forums to argue about it. What just happened is Apple lowered the cost of entry for the iMac line, and they will sell bucketloads as a result.

You're pretty confident in making such an ad hominem statement for someone who couldn't pick me out of a lineup . . .

I would give you LONG odds that I know the target market better than you do, and unlike you I don't underestimate that market. The market you're talking about is buying a cheap HP package at Walmart or Target.

This machine is a travesty for the price, offering less performance than a base Mac Mini from 2012 for double the money. It's barely more capable than a Macbook Pro from . . . wait for it . . . Mid-2010.

If this had been priced at $799 I'd agree it would sell well. But being on the wrong side of $1000, many people will stop to realize that the next one up offers twice the storage, is something like 3 times as fast, and is thus likely to be usable for a far longer period of time.

And $799 is what I'd expect it to be offered to educational institutions and the like in bulk.
 
i think the price should be more around $899.

i mean for 200 bucks more you could get a quad core i5 with iris pro graphics.

At $899 i think this would be an amazing product. im sorry but i find this kind of a stupid product but this is just my 2 cents.

However, for many people the quad core i5 doesn't actually create any benefits. We reached the point where for many users and uses a low end processor is just good enough. Sure, if you need quad core or benefit from it, you should spend the money on it. But if you don't, why would you?
 
These threads crack me up! Apple could put a baloney sandwhich in an iMac case and the Apple apologists here would compare it to the Mona Lisa! C'mon people, this super low performance iMac with the big price really has me scratching my head. I'm a big Apple fan but what is this?

Most people in the thread don't understand the CPU. This would be a good bit faster than the CPU in my 2.0GHz i7 2012 Air, which I guarantee is fast enough for anyone that doesn't actually need more cores. Heck, I use my Air for work every day and the only thing I can do to bring it to its knees is run multiple virtual machines at a time, and that's just a RAM issue.
 
How horrifying. We have some full circle and we have mobile processors in the iMac, again.

http://ark.intel.com/products/75030
Well, the previous mobile CPUs in the iMac weren't this low in TDP.... :)

But it gets me wondering, maybe the entire iMac line (or at least most of it) could move back to mobile CPUs in the not-too-distant future to make the iMacs thinner (I haven't seen anything about this new one being thinner, but maybe they are saving that for another update).
 
In 3-4 years, release it as "the next step in desktop computing"

Really? The next step? I hope you're being sarcastic.

Touchscreen desktop is a novelty that's already been attempted by others. Besides the fact that nobody wants to wave their arms around all day, fingers are too fat to do anything useful beyond hitting large targets. Drive me nuts on my iphone and ipad, so the last thing I ever want is that frustration on a desktop where i do serious work.
 
They put a MacBook Air (15W) CPU inside a desktop computer meant for 65W CPUs? Without making it thinner?

Hmmm, pretty weird. Would have been cheaper for them to go with a less efficient, more powerful chip.

They could have made this iPad thin and draw more attention to the iMac line-up.
 
I've been waiting for Apple to announce their lower cost iMac to see what the specs would be. What does everyone think is the best iMac model for building an app? I'm a new developer and am just starting to learn how to code, so I'm certainly not making Infinity Blade here! But I also want to make sure I get a new Mac that has good specs to support app development.

My thought is that is should be a quad core chip and have at least 16gb of ram. I'm uncertain about the graphics card. I don't think the lower priced iMac has good enough specs for what I'm looking to do, but would love to hear what others think!

Thanks!
To be honest, just about any recent Mac will do the job, you don't need 16 GB of RAM (8 is plenty, unless you can't upgrade later) and a discreet graphics card isn't necessary (unless you will also use the machine for gaming and other things). I'd put money on the processor and fast storage - the 2.7 GHz 21.5-inch model with a Fusion Drive, for example.
 
GHz-nerds don´t get it. This product is not targeted in your way. Think: Dumb people that want a mac in the kitchen or something. Or just want a mac and do not care if it has 1 core or 50 cores.

Why "dumb people"?
 
You: "If touch screens had come first, people would view the mouse as an incredible labor-saving device."

Me: I rarely read really good points here. This is actually really insightful. You could also add trackpads as they proportionally cover large screen real estate with gestures as well as pointing and click.

I find it interesting that a MagicMouse was nowhere to be seen on stage at WWDC14 ;)
 
You're pretty confident in making such an ad hominem statement for someone who couldn't pick me out of a lineup . . .

I would give you LONG odds that I know the target market better than you do, and unlike you I don't underestimate that market. The market you're talking about is buying a cheap HP package at Walmart or Target.

This machine is a travesty for the price, offering less performance than a base Mac Mini from 2012 for double the money. It's barely more capable than a Macbook Pro from . . . wait for it . . . Mid-2010.

If this had been priced at $799 I'd agree it would sell well. But being on the wrong side of $1000, many people will stop to realize that the next one up offers twice the storage, is something like 3 times as fast, and is thus likely to be usable for a far longer period of time.

And $799 is what I'd expect it to be offered to educational institutions and the like in bulk.

Best buy usually takes $100 off iMacs.
Best buy edu discount is$150 off iMacs.
I just purchased a iMac a month ago and saved $250
 
And $799 is what I'd expect it to be offered to educational institutions and the like in bulk.

Except that ChromePC still wins, and is in fact winning by far, in the classroom at that price point.

It's sad, as I despise Google, but right now it looks to me like the Great Goog is wiping the floor with Apple in every market they go after.
 
It never compares. You can't compare an 11" MBA with 23" display, and external HDD to a desktop AIO with one power cable.

The clutter on your desk alone is enough to drive some people insane.

Also, if you never plan on taking it with you, what's the point? Might as well get the iMac and be done with it.

Versatility. The option to take it with you might be worth it for some people. This system isn't suited for me at all but if I were in for something with lower specs I would rather have options (and a much faster SSD based system) than an all in one, aesthetically based decision.

On top of that a single MBA without extra monitor or any other accessories is 300 cheaper. Much cleaner lines than having a mouse and keyboard broken apart and it's faster for simple processes. If this iMac was closer to 799 or 899 I could see it being worthy of a buy.
 
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Anti climax. Why take down the store for five hours plus and just add the slowest mac in their lineup? A desktop computer with a processor designed for ultra portable laptop. I do not understand this at all, it must be cheaper and faster choises.
 
You're pretty confident in making such an ad hominem statement for someone who couldn't pick me out of a lineup . . .

I would give you LONG odds that I know the target market better than you do, and unlike you I don't underestimate that market. The market you're talking about is buying a cheap HP package at Walmart or Target.

This machine is a travesty for the price, offering less performance than a base Mac Mini from 2012 for double the money. It's barely more capable than a Macbook Pro from . . . wait for it . . . Mid-2010.

If this had been priced at $799 I'd agree it would sell well. But being on the wrong side of $1000, many people will stop to realize that the next one up offers twice the storage, is something like 3 times as fast, and is thus likely to be usable for a far longer period of time.

And $799 is what I'd expect it to be offered to educational institutions and the like in bulk.
You'd be right if we were talking about someone who is willing to shop for a computer at Wal-mart. Alas, someone who buys an iMac buys it because they want a computer made by Apple. There are plenty of things that Apple makes that aren't terribly good values, but people buy them for all sorts of reasons. Apple is as much of a lifestyle brand now as anything, and if they can lower the price to entry - regardless of tech specs - it will sell. I don't need to pick you out of a lineup to see that. :)
 
It's sad, as I despise Google, but right now it looks to me like the Great Goog is wiping the floor with Apple in every market they go after.

That's an interesting theory. I hope you didn't hurt yourself coming up with it . . .

;)
 
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