Apple Launches New iPod Touch With A10 Fusion Chip and Up to 256GB Storage, Priced From $199

[TSM]

Some don't realize how great this form factor is.
You can't use a dictionary with one hand on a iphone 7.
For quick and simple things is much better.
You drop it like 90% less.
For podcasts and music is genius still.
BUT.
I wish the 256gb was cheaper, and it had a newer camera.
I MEAN: this may be a prelude of an upcoming IPOD PRO.
Yes: this form factor, 4.7 screen with no bezels.
Just next refresh.
You are welcome, Apple.
Just send me a couple of those.

 

[TracesOfArsenic]

Those bezels. Omg.

You poor, triggered thing.

 

[Neepman]

Limited to lossy 48kHz if using Airpods or dongle.

Calling 48K "lossy" is patently absurd.

 

[Cosmosent]

Personal preference for power, portability and value is the iPad mini 2019 that has 3GB RAM and an A12.

The A12 has a serious Bug, very-likely in the Performance Controller, & very-likely due to its "fancy" design ... the A10 has NO such fancy design, & NO such Bug ... as such, the A10 can run circles around the A12 in some Extreme Performance applications ! ... long live the A10 !!!

This is coming to you from an EE with a chip background who pivoted into iOS Software Dev ~4.5 years ago.

Few in the General Public know of the Bug, but it could present a very BIG problem for AAPL @ some point ... specifically, their first-ever mass iPhone recall.

 

[Michvuee]

Apple should just kill the iPod touch and push the iPad Mini towards kids use. If their a teen just make a newer iPhone SE. No use in iPod Touch when all they do is update the CPU;should've just put an A12 in it and make it the final iPod Touch.

Hell I already seen parents just throw an iPad at their kids to shut them up. Parenting of the future.

 

[Shanghaichica]

The A12 has a serious Bug, very-likely in the Performance Controller, & very-likely due to its "fancy" design ... the A10 has NO such fancy design, & NO such Bug ... as such, the A10 can run circles around the A12 in some Extreme Performance applications ! ... long live the A10 !!!

This is coming to you from an EE with a chip background who pivoted into iOS Software Dev ~4.5 years ago.

Few in the General Public know of the Bug, but it could present a very BIG problem for AAPL @ some point ... specifically, their first-ever mass iPhone recall.

How will the bug manifest?

 

[Abazigal]

POS and enterprises using them, seems interesting, why not an iPad instead maybe size dunno. Hard to loose an iPad on the other hand an iPod, hmm.

Well, the sales assistants had iPod touches in their pants pockets, which they could take out to perform tasks like scanning a product to see all available stock. So portability is definitely a plus point here.

 

[code-m]

The A12 has a serious Bug, very-likely in the Performance Controller, & very-likely due to its "fancy" design ... the A10 has NO such fancy design, & NO such Bug ... as such, the A10 can run circles around the A12 in some Extreme Performance applications ! ... long live the A10 !!!

This is coming to you from an EE with a chip background who pivoted into iOS Software Dev ~4.5 years ago.

Few in the General Public know of the Bug, but it could present a very BIG problem for AAPL @ some point ... specifically, their first-ever mass iPhone recall.

I am aware of this, the question remains will the A13 resolve this bug.

Intel chips have had bugs that hinders performance and security for years, yet companies still use these chips and people still buy them. Is the performance issue a big one, maybe to some. Is the security issue a big problem, yes for all.
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Well, the sales assistants had iPod touches in their pants pockets, which they could take out to perform tasks like scanning a product to see all available stock. So portability is definitely a plus point here.

Any device being compared for portability that is smaller will win, no argument there it is logic.

Cannot confirm on what was observed at that particular store, however at most of the stores I visited the sales reps have an iPad mini and an iPod touch attached to a large POS attachment. That large attachment is not pocketable in any pant.

If one is going to sling it around their body, might as well go with the mini. However I suspect that a POS attachment does not exist that meets requirements of the retailer. Or maybe the store manager has a choice on what devices to deploy, dunno.

 

[npmacuser5]

iPod, not sure why one would buy one if they have any older models of an iPhone. I am using an iPhone 5s as an iPod, works awesome. Additionally will work as an emergency 911 if needed. Seems like a good inexpensive choice for younger kids if considering an iPod.

As ones current iPhone gets to end of heavy use, use as an iPod. Repeat. A good cost savings. Maybe I am missing something.

 

[subjonas]

The new iPad mini mini

That’s a pretty huge jump between 7 square inches (iPod touch) and 30 square inches (iPad mini).

 

[Aston441]

iPod, not sure why one would buy one if they have any older models of an iPhone. I am using an iPhone 5s as an iPod, works awesome. Additionally will work as an emergency 911 if needed. Seems like a good inexpensive choice for younger kids if considering an iPod.

As ones current iPhone gets to end of heavy use, use as an iPod. Repeat. A good cost savings. Maybe I am missing something.

You are missing that all 1Gig RAM iOS devices will be announced to be discontinued for iOS 13 next week, including your 5s, the iPt6, the iPad Mini 2, the iPhone 6/6s, some other iPads.

 

[lartola]

You are missing that all 1Gig RAM iOS devices will be announced to be discontinued for iOS 13 next week, including your 5s, the iPt6, the iPad Mini 2, the iPhone 6/6s, some other iPads.

The iPhone 6s actually has 2 GB in RAM, not just 1 GB, just to clarify. The 6/6 Plus does have only 1 GB, and so do the iphone 5s, iPad mini 2 and 3 and 1st gen iPad Air.

 

[npmacuser5]

You are missing that all 1Gig RAM iOS devices will be announced to be discontinued for iOS 13 next week, including your 5s, the iPt6, the iPad Mini 2, the iPhone 6/6s, some other iPads.

You missed my point. Many churn iPhones every two to three years. So a three year old iPhone will not be discontinued. Yes, my 5s will not be supported but my 7 that is 2.5 years old will be. Upgrade the iPhone 7 to whatever, use the iPhone 7 as an iPod keep repeating. Two money factors, I get maximum usage out of my iPhones and get both devices, iPhone and iPod at a good discount.

 

[AutomaticApple]

iPad mini 1

The iPad Mini 1 has 512MB of RAM.

 

[lartola]

The iPad Mini 1 has 512MB of RAM.

Oh yeah, sorry. I meant to say iPad mini 2 and 3 have 1 GB in RAM, not the mini 1. My bad.

 

[Derived]

Ah Apple at its best.

Reusing an old design, so out of date it hurts, and pretending its new.

How are they pretending it's new? Are *you* pretending it's new? No one said the design was new.

The internals are completely new, of course...which, I hope, is alright with you to point out.

The press release is right there, there's no need to make things up that didn't happen to get mad about. Seems to happen with every product release, and it's beyond insane.

 

[dan110]

yea...serving a niche purpose likely doesn't justify the cost. Other than occasionally buying one for a kid before they have a cell phone...what market exists to justify the cost of such a retooling of the entirety of the (remaining) iPod supply chain?

Believe me, I loved the iPT, I was jailbreaking them for years. But iPhones/smartphones have completely cannibalized that market. There's no point in trying to resuscitate that horse for the odd niche that it fulfills.

In my opinion, however, I wish they at least stuck an A11 in there.

Like many others, I've tried to explain this to, you still don't get it.

It's not about the DEVICE. It's about the >MUSIC<. ! Creatives want a dedicated music device with a high-end DAC, plenty of onboard memory, a nifty headphone jack, and all the other things I listed before in a previous post. The halo effect of this device alone will drive sales of Apple Music subscriptions, music creation via Apple software and computers, etc from BOTH creatives and regular consumers.

Plus, people who just want to listen to their music without the need for the internet connection, calls, apps will buy it. Just like people by ebook devices or photographers still buy stand-alone DSLRs and video cameras.

Looking backwards isn't always a bad thing. The resurgence of vinyl ("(see reference) is a strong indicator that people just want to listen to their music without a swiss army knife device capabilities.

Reference: https://www.forbes.com/sites/billro...ger-than-we-thought-much-bigger/#26cbd3411c9c

 

[NT1440]

Like many others, I've tried to explain this to, you still don't get it.

It's not about the DEVICE. It's about the >MUSIC<. ! Creatives want a dedicated music device with a high-end DAC, plenty of onboard memory, a nifty headphone jack, and all the other things I listed before in a previous post. The halo effect of this device alone will drive sales of Apple Music subscriptions, music creation via Apple software and computers, etc from BOTH creatives and regular consumers.

Plus, people who just want to listen to their music without the need for the internet connection, calls, apps will buy it. Just like people by ebook devices or photographers still buy stand-alone DSLRs and video cameras.

Looking backwards isn't always a bad thing. The resurgence of vinyl ("(see reference) is a strong indicator that people just want to listen to their music without a swiss army knife device capabilities.

Reference: https://www.forbes.com/sites/billro...ger-than-we-thought-much-bigger/#26cbd3411c9c

No, I get there is a niche. That’s an extremely small market. This update was to cater to business needs who want the iOS platform without the phone functionality for things like POS devices, inventory management scanners, etc.

 

[Mac 128]

Plus, people who just want to listen to their music without the need for the internet connection, calls, apps will buy it. Just like people by ebook devices or photographers still buy stand-alone DSLRs and video cameras.

The iPod Touch has an internet connection. People who don’t want calls on an iPhone can turn on Do Not Disturb, Airplane Mode, or disable the Cellular radio when. Both run apps. So I fail to see the distinction here.

If the iPod Touch were some kind of high end dedicated music player I suppose I might get the analogy to dedicated eBooks and DSLR and video cameras. But it isn’t. In fact the quality of the audio is the same or less than what’s available in the iPhone. And without cellular, customers are unable to stream audio from subscribed sources, or download hi-res audio files anywhere. Plus, the storage is inferior to the largest iPhones if that’s a motivation for storing much larger hi-res audio files. So what exactly are music oriented people buying here over an iPhone? A headphone jack? If so, that’s a pretty expensive headphone jack.

 

[cardfan]

No, I get there is a niche. That’s an extremely small market. This update was to cater to business needs who want the iOS platform without the phone functionality for things like POS devices, inventory management scanners, etc.

That sounds good and all but I’d have been hesitant to revolve business needs around the iPod touch on a wing and prayer that Apple ever updated them. I’d still say the market is basically kids. Heck the splash page over at Apple says “fun at full speed” and basically talks music and Apple Arcade.

But let’s go with this catering to businesses nonsense.

 

[nicho]

the splash page over at Apple says “fun at full speed” and basically talks music and Apple Arcade.

Do you think businesses buying them in the 10s of thousands base purchasing decisions on what that website says?

 

[Abazigal]

Like many others, I've tried to explain this to, you still don't get it.

It's not about the DEVICE. It's about the >MUSIC<. ! Creatives want a dedicated music device with a high-end DAC, plenty of onboard memory, a nifty headphone jack, and all the other things I listed before in a previous post. The halo effect of this device alone will drive sales of Apple Music subscriptions, music creation via Apple software and computers, etc from BOTH creatives and regular consumers.

Plus, people who just want to listen to their music without the need for the internet connection, calls, apps will buy it. Just like people by ebook devices or photographers still buy stand-alone DSLRs and video cameras.

Looking backwards isn't always a bad thing. The resurgence of vinyl ("(see reference) is a strong indicator that people just want to listen to their music without a swiss army knife device capabilities.

Reference: https://www.forbes.com/sites/billro...ger-than-we-thought-much-bigger/#26cbd3411c9c

You are the one who doesn’t get it.

The people who do want such a product are likely a niche of a niche who are not going to buy it in enough quantities to make creating such a product worthwhile.

I don’t see how this product will drive the adoption of Apple Music subscriptions either, given that said product is not going to offer a superior listening experience. Nor are people going to be creating music for a niche product either.

The benefits you are claiming are not going to materialise.

 

[Mac 128]

That sounds good and all but I’d have been hesitant to revolve business needs around the iPod touch on a wing and prayer that Apple ever updated them. I’d still say the market is basically kids. Heck the splash page over at Apple says “fun at full speed” and basically talks music and Apple Arcade.

But let’s go with this catering to businesses nonsense.

And yet it can barely run the most popular video games. Nor does it have access to Apple’s music or game subscriptions when WiFi is not available — services which Apple has said are the future of their business. Not to mention kids are going to be more interested in playing video games on a larger screen. A Nintendo Switch has a 6.2” screen, and is designed for the most popular video games, and also offers music and movies, and social media for around the same price as the iPod. iPhone 7s can be found for the same price as well. If I were a kid or a parent, I know which one I’d pick for gaming and entertainment — and it’s not a 7 year old device with a three year old chip.

If Apple was actively going after the kids gaming market, this was a fairly half-assed effort. Conversely, if they were trying to keep their Enterprise customers happy with a more modern interface for their expensive custom iPod sleds, on a budget, then they hit the ball out of the park.

 

[rmsanger]

You’ll thank me later...

http://m.fiio.net/en/products?c_id=1

 

[dan110]

You are the one who doesn’t get it.

The people who do want such a product are likely a niche of a niche who are not going to buy it in enough quantities to make creating such a product worthwhile.

I don’t see how this product will drive the adoption of Apple Music subscriptions either, given that said product is not going to offer a superior listening experience. Nor are people going to be creating music for a niche product either.

The benefits you are claiming are not going to materialise.

I'd love to see this data that shows that it'll never be "worthwhile". I'll wait.