Apple Launches New Nationwide Racial Equity and Justice Initiative Projects

[CosmoCopus]

Yes I do because there is no need people are equal no person of colour has any less chance in america

You're exactly right.

 

[ThisBougieLife]

I love how Americans are so conditioned to pick the low hanging fruit and call it intelligence. While there's still; some systemic racism, the real problem is poverty, not color. Poor people lack opportunities, not just poor people of color. Racism is low hanging fruit to give us the illusion that our politicians are helping us.

You can tell how much America loves low hanging fruit from the comments. White supremest stormed the capital because racism? lol. They stormed the capital because they falsely believe the election was stolen and they think their fighting for democracy. They continue to believe it because at every turn they're called Nazi's and racists and whatever liberal sound bite is shoved in to your over educated heads today. So the continued attacks and lack of civil discourse (on both sides. Can't blame the erosion of civility on just the left) give their false beliefs credibility and giving them agency to act, albeit for the wrong actions.

There are problems in this country. Red lining is chiefly responsible for the wealth gap black communities experience, and that wealth gap is the true reason there's a difference in opportunity and criminality. Yet, we continually highlighting the problems while glossing over or outright denying the leaps and bounds racial equality has mead since 1965 has created a generation of people that believe civil rights never happened. It's not that the country has gotten worse, quite the opposite, as anyone from my generation who's honest will tell you. It's that we've gotten worse, both sides.

So then why do conservatives dismiss Black Lives Matter and refuse to hear the reasons they are protesting? You say that liberals falsely label those storming the Capitol as Nazis, they're just misunderstood and fed up with the left-wing name-calling, we need to understand them and listen to them. So why do we not need to listen to BLM? Why is it okay to simply label them "Marxist" and ignore what they're protesting for? If calling every conservative "racist" and not listening to them is wrong (which I agree, it is) then so is calling every liberal "Marxist" and not listening to them. It's telling that people in this thread genuinely don't understand what BLM was protesting about, that there were no problems with race until BLM entered the scene. If you listen them, and understand that this was something that has been building up over decades and generations, you would know that is not the case. I know that those storming the Capitol were not simply racists, they genuinely believed they were fighting for democracy. Even if you think BLM are reacting to the wrong thing or responding to it incorrectly, it's important to understand why they exist and not simply label them Marxists/anarchists/anti-white racists.

 

[CosmoCopus]

I wish Apple would just focus on their tech instead of this kind of trendy crap going on right now.

 

[EdT]

Not saying that at all. I'm saying it doesn't take much to be "brave" when being brave means doing something that 95% of people will be perfectly happy with.

And yet, Apple will tout this and other actions to highlight how brave and courageous they are. Yet, when it comes to their second biggest market, where the same "bravery" would equal a loss of profits, they're perfectly okay with being silent.

I think you are vastly overestimating the number of people who are in agreement with Apple making this statement. There are lots of people that either don’t think there is a problem or think that there are people that deserve to be treated as second class citizens.

Now, the people pointing out that Apple has ethical problems of their own with child labor and dealing with racist regimes like China have a valid point. But trying to fix something here is probably where you have to start. But Apple should acknowledge that things aren’t sunshine and rainbows in factories in Southeast Asia.

 

[kirbyrun]

It makes me sad that in 2021, that because my opinion doesn’t fit with yours, I am blinkered and wrong.

Nah, that's not it. You are wrong because your opinion (to which you are absolutely entitled, of course) proceeds from a clear misunderstanding of the circumstances and is couched in the usual language of those who misapprehend racial issues as they pertain to the US.

In other words, you're not wrong because you disagree with me; you're wrong because either deliberately or otherwise, you're not getting it and therefore are arriving at malformed conclusions.

I'll assume this is earnest on your part and proceeds from ignorance, not malice, so here it is in a nutshell: If you are standing on the tenth rung of the ladder and the person below you on the fourth rung is prevented from ascending, it does no damage to equality to help that person up. In fact, it is CREATING equality when you help that person up.

White people are on the tenth rung. Black people are on the fourth rung.

"But what about all those white people who are worse off than Black people?" you ask.

Firstly, there are damn few of them and no one is talking about hurting or penalizing them or sending them down the ladder -- the progression of Black people does no harm to white people.

Second of all, even the most beleaguered white person in the US is generally in a better position than the average Black person. That white person does not live in fear of being gunned down by the police at a traffic stop. That white person benefits from societal assumptions about the overall goodness, reliability, and trustworthiness of white people that do not accrue to Black people.

So that is why your comment that targeting Black institutions does not help the cause of equality is, yes, blinkered and wrong.

 

[scwinsett]

Oh come on apple they are pushing me away bit by bit I’m all for equality but we have it in america this is just not needed

What an absolutely moronic and ignorant comment. Jesus Christ how insecure can you be where acknowledging discrimination of others is somehow too much for your psyche.

 

[JonnyBlaze]

That's literally exactly what it means.

Let’s try another example. Everybody needs to be able to get the the second floor of a public building. We don’t only provide stairs because some people wouldn’t be able to use them. Equality is providing different things for different needs, maybe an elevator in this example, so that everyone can achieve the same thing.

 

[fhopper]

This is not the US of Apple. Apple needs to get out of social initiatives and engineer. What pompous hubris Cook has. If I owned stock I would vote to remove Cook.

 

[JohnnyQuest]

Some of you are actual, literal trash. There's nothing negative to say about this good work on Apple's part unless you're racist. Period.

Wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the responders here were present at the Capitol insurrection. 😉

 

[ericwn]

Not saying that at all. I'm saying it doesn't take much to be "brave" when being brave means doing something that 95% of people will be perfectly happy with.

And yet, Apple will tout this and other actions to highlight how brave and courageous they are. Yet, when it comes to their second biggest market, where the same "bravery" would equal a loss of profits, they're perfectly okay with being silent.

Not sure what you’re suggesting - to criticize the Chinese authorities so much about their camps that they shut their business down in their country? Have you seen the crazy backlash against Leica that was spun as anti-Chinese in their social media? I think that’s quite risky.

I applaud Apple’s efforts where they make sense and potentially have a positive impact, but honestly I’m not sure what they can achieve in that Orwellian super oppression state.

 

[thespacekid]

So then why do conservatives dismiss Black Lives Matter ...

So what has BLM done with the money that has been donated to them? I have yet to see any accounting of that money. Does it go to help violent prone area like Chicago, black kids get a better education, or is it used to divide Americans and raise more money?

 

[ericwn]

This is not the US of Apple. Apple needs to get out of social initiatives and engineer. What pompous hubris Cook has. If I owned stock I would vote to remove Cook.

Apple is a trillion dollar company and kudos to them for any improvement these initiatives might bring.

 

[4jasontv]

I don't follow 🤔

Nike opening a factory is for them to create more shoes than they are currently able to produce.

Apple creating learning opportunities for children is to give them the opportunity to learn to code, etc. and create job opportunities for themselves.

They are teaching them to code for iOS. They are learning to make shoes.

 

[Mcdevidr]

Nah, that's not it. You are wrong because your opinion (to which you are absolutely entitled, of course) proceeds from a clear misunderstanding of the circumstances and is couched in the usual language of those who misapprehend racial issues as they pertain to the US.

In other words, you're not wrong because you disagree with me; you're wrong because either deliberately or otherwise, you're not getting it and therefore are arriving at malformed conclusions.

I'll assume this is earnest on your part and proceeds from ignorance, not malice, so here it is in a nutshell: If you are standing on the tenth rung of the ladder and the person below you on the fourth rung is prevented from ascending, it does no damage to equality to help that person up. In fact, it is CREATING equality when you help that person up.

White people are on the tenth rung. Black people are on the fourth rung.

"But what about all those white people who are worse off than Black people?" you ask.

Firstly, there are damn few of them and no one is talking about hurting or penalizing them or sending them down the ladder -- the progression of Black people does no harm to white people.

Second of all, even the most beleaguered white person in the US is generally in a better position than the average Black person. That white person does not live in fear of being gunned down by the police at a traffic stop. That white person benefits from societal assumptions about the overall goodness, reliability, and trustworthiness of white people that do not accrue to Black people.

So that is why your comment that targeting Black institutions does not help the cause of equality is, yes, blinkered and wrong.

I agree with some of this but you are wrong on two accounts. One there are not a few white people who are disenfranchised that just is not true, there are many. How could it be true (that there are only a few) in any case when white people (whatever this means by the way) make up a larger proportion of the population. Most black people do not have to worry about being gunned down in a traffic stop that is non sense and the statistics bear this out. They are more likely to be harmed physically by the cops but not gunned down. This was a narrative spread by the media that, hey now the election is over they don't care about anymore.

 

[kildraik]

Some brave souls in here speaking the truth.

 

[Professor Rucy]

Does this mean Apple will start opening Apple Stores in poor and minority communities? Will poor and minorities have access to more inexpensive Apple products? Will Apple hire more minorities and stop their support of H1B visas?

LOL yeah, right.

I love Silicon Valley. Dropping peanuts and crumbs in the guise of feeling good while truly accomplishing NOTHING.

 

[Unsupported]

Some of you are actual, literal trash. There's nothing negative to say about this good work on Apple's part unless you're racist. Period.

Wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the responders here were present at the Capitol insurrection. 😉

 

[JohnnyQuest]

So what has BLM done with the money that has been donated to them? I have yet to see any accounting of that money. Does it go to help violent prone area like Chicago, black kids get a better education, or is it used to divide Americans and raise more money?

BLM isn't just one monolithic charity organization LOL. I've donated to multiple bail funds, GLITS black trans housing funds, the Martha P. Johnson Institute, GoFundMe's for families who have been affected by police brutality. And yes, there are many charities and organizations dedicated to after school programs and education.

Such a moronic and belittling statement to make, honestly. If you want to see change, there are plenty of places you can donate to that aren't "dividing Americans."

 

[Unsupported]

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Also "Blacklist" is now "Blocklist".

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[LongWayHome]

Ah now Biden is a racist. Getting funkier by the minute. Sad that you need to drag this into the topic.

Let me preface this by saying I voted for Biden, but only because he was the lesser of two evils. And the fact of the matter is that Biden has said multiple racist comments over the years and has also supported discriminatory Bill's many times. Does making racist remarks and supporting racist and discriminatory agenda's make him a racist? That's for each individual to decide, but someone who wants to call him a racist isn't pulling something out of left field.

 

[ThisBougieLife]

I agree with some of this but you are wrong on two accounts. One there are not a few white people who are disenfranchised that just is not true, there are many. How could it be true (that there are only a few) in any case when white people (whatever this means by the way) make up a larger proportion of the population. Most black people do not have to worry about being gunned down in a traffic stop that is non sense and the statistics bear this out. They are more likely to be harmed physically by the cops but not gunned down. This was a narrative spread by the media that, hey now the election is over they don't care about anymore.

The statistics show that black people are not more likely to be killed by the police? I'd be interested to see those statistics. All the statistics I've seen show exactly the opposite. There are more white people shot by police because there are more white people, as you point our in your first statement. But when the rates are compared, black people are more likely to be killed by the police.

 

[Apple2GS]

This may apprise some white guilt or foster someone's white savior complex but only black Americans can fix their cultural issues. Why do Asian and African immigrates kids succeed in greater numbers then kids with African American parents? If your aren't going to talk about their culture and disrespect for education and their belief that racism is worse than ever, you are not addressing anything that could help.

 

[PaulRustad007]

Why doesn’t Apple put stores in these areas as well l? That should help the neighborhoods grow

Apple closed its store in Uptown, Minneapolis shortly after the Floyd riots. They are not going to reopen it. If anything that diverse community needs an Apple store. Now, the diversity inhabitants need to travel 12 miles to a suburban mall to get stuff done. Well played Apple. Well played.

 

[370zulu]

It's all censorship and oppression. Dissenting perspective is no longer allowed or tolerated, forget respected. When we shutdown dialog we don't like, we have already lost the argument. This is happening because we have lost the ability in polite society to reason with one another. Now, everything is about first person emotion and how it impacts ourselves - no thought or responsibility of our own behaviors or culpability on our own part. This is why we have a ugly actions being taken everywhere. Always a finger being pointed at someone else without a finger pointing back at ourselves in the mirror. Until there is a resurgence of self-respect, personal responsibility and genuine care/love for our fellow human beings, this ugly behavior on all sides will continue.

 

[JPSaltzman]

Well, I do hope someone manages to reach out to First Nation and Native Americans. Not only are they horribly underserved by respective countries' infrastructure, but many locations lack not only local public schools or paved roads to access them, but I'm sure Internet access is spotty, if existing at all.

One just needs to look at the Navajo Nation (their reservation touches four American southwest states' corners) for the many challenges they are facing; COVID and lack of accessible health care has just been devastating for these people.