Apple Launches New Nationwide Racial Equity and Justice Initiative Projects

[ericwn]

If Apple truly cared about people, they would build their own damn factories. Imagine if being “woke” was cancelling the inadequate Chinese facilities. They won’t be “woke” about their slave storms until it’s been deemed unacceptable by the general public.

Slave storms?
Apple now needs to be in manufacturing to be good enough for you.

 

[LongWayHome]

Slave storms?
Apple now needs to be in manufacturing to be good enough for you.

I don't think that's what he's saying. I think the issue some people have with Apple in regards to doing things like this is that they tend to be somewhat two faced on these types of issues.

Apple likes to do things that are easy, all in the name of the betterment of a cause.

Examples:

Apple plays the "Environment" Card by removing chargers from the box: This absolutely helps Apple's bottom line but they can play that card to hide the fact that they are making a ton more money on selling chargers separately now as well as saving a ton of money by not including them in the box. At the end of the day Apple not only changed what their new phones need to fast charge, they introduced a whole new way to charge them which is just another ding to the environment. This is easy.

Apple starts racial equity programs: While this is great, its also easy. Most sane people are in support of racial equity and Apple will receive little to no backlash for doing something that is the right thing to do. This is also easy.

But when things are difficult, Apple turns a blind eye. The poster you responded to was actually spot on. Apple has been aware of the atrocities of the working conditions at their factories for years now. They have employed companies knowing that they use child labor. By now, Apple could have EASILY started their own manufacturing plants and over an amount of time moved all of their manufacturing in house. THAT IS DIFFICULT. And Apple doesn't like things that are difficult and that can hurt their bottom line. Its EASY to continue to employ factories with horrific conditions and child labor because its cheap and it makes Apple a ton of money.

The difficult things are what earns respect, and far too many times Apple loves to promote things like this new program while at the same time allowing terrible things to happen in their name in other countries. And I am admittedly a part of the problem. I love and buy Apple products but I get a little weary of them and their moral high ground when its just not true.

 

[R2FX]

If this announcement is “bigger and better“ than a new product, then Tim Apple really ought to take a hard, long look in the mirror inside Apple HQ toilet room to wake up to the reality that he’s running a product company, not a political cult.

Im pretty sure if anyone asks on the next shareholder meeting about any business case for this that he’ll give the same answer as he did to those who questioned his obsession with the climate change cult.

I wonder what do product people think of him these days....all those execs didn’t leave just Apple, they left also because of him and his deranged values

 

[Septembersrain]

I literally had someone tell me that being Hispanic is white. That we are no longer considered people of color. This is how much racial divide media is playing on everyone. I'm really ready for someone to take my white privilege because getting my virginity sold at age 9 by my mother was great!

Skin color being the major focus is bringing us right back to segregation. We're going backwards. I'm all for making it easier for people in poverty to get a helping hand but when you put all the blame on others, you'll be a victim your whole life. No matter how much help you receive.

 

[darthbane2k]

I’ll ask you straight out and wonder if you will be man or woman enough to answer honestly.
How does someone pointing out strictly facts make them racist?

When ‘facts’ are deliberately skewed , when somebody uses whataboutism to excuse White supremacy, to excuse that attempted coup by using BLM as some sort of diversion , when somebody is actually riled that Apple is doing something to help bring some equity to African Americans who want to get their foot in the door in terms of the tech industry - I have to question whether they have issue with Black people and therefore are racist.

Answer your question?

 

[ericwn]

I don't think that's what he's saying. I think the issue some people have with Apple in regards to doing things like this is that they tend to be somewhat two faced on these types of issues.

Apple likes to do things that are easy, all in the name of the betterment of a cause.

Examples:

Apple plays the "Environment" Card by removing chargers from the box: This absolutely helps Apple's bottom line but they can play that card to hide the fact that they are making a ton more money on selling chargers separately now as well as saving a ton of money by not including them in the box. At the end of the day Apple not only changed what their new phones need to fast charge, they introduced a whole new way to charge them which is just another ding to the environment. This is easy.

Apple starts racial equity programs: While this is great, its also easy. Most sane people are in support of racial equity and Apple will receive little to no backlash for doing something that is the right thing to do. This is also easy.

But when things are difficult, Apple turns a blind eye. The poster you responded to was actually spot on. Apple has been aware of the atrocities of the working conditions at their factories for years now. They have employed companies knowing that they use child labor. By now, Apple could have EASILY started their own manufacturing plants and over an amount of time moved all of their manufacturing in house. THAT IS DIFFICULT. And Apple doesn't like things that are difficult and that can hurt their bottom line. Its EASY to continue to employ factories with horrific conditions and child labor because its cheap and it makes Apple a ton of money.

The difficult things are what earns respect, and far too many times Apple loves to promote things like this new program while at the same time allowing terrible things to happen in their name in other countries. And I am admittedly a part of the problem. I love and buy Apple products but I get a little weary of them and their moral high ground when its just not true.

I do get the point but that’s also mine to a degree. Certain people categorise any effort as easy and therefore not important. That’s just negative hogwash to me. If certain things were easy, then more companies would have attempted them.

Apple monitors the production facilities for years and the reports are visible. While there are issues to paint this as a mainly child labour practice just because it’s currently popular to shout USA jobs (that never were in the states to begin with) is also pretty simplistic. Everyone knows that having production lines that adopt to a new model every year is tricky - and no one has pulled it off yet. The same folks shoring for this have been quietly buying the very same products without the outrage.

Focus on what is being done and it’s more than it was before.

 

[ipponrg]

In order to fight systematic racism you need to address the flaws in the system that perpetuate it. One of those flaws is lack of equal opportunities for minorities. Creating more opportunities to help bring them to an equal level is NOT "more systematic racism".

This sounds like you are trying to patch systemic racism from the tail end and not solve from the root. Systemic racism should be tackled from its origin i.e early in one’s life. The nature of your proposal about forced equality is enforcing and perpetuating systemic racism against others. For example, racial quotas in college applicants for top schools is a form of systemic racism against Asians.

 

[lowendlinux]

Simply put blame the liberals and don’t take accountability as a Republican. Everything is liberals fault lol /s

Yea Newt, Contract with America, republican purity tests, the rise of conservative talk radio, and Fox news have absolutely nothing to do with it at all. Not to mention 1992 was the first time since 1980 that we'd elected a D to the big chair and the dude from Arkansas wasn't exactly a luminary either morally or politically. America has problems most of which are due to partisanship and self segregation but it's cause isn't teh lib*ards or the repugnicants it's in the mirror. We've not let our government adapt fast enough to changing world, we've allowed the government to politically segregate us to insure a safe base to work from. In 1994 the internet was something that normies could have so we learned from other people directly not filtered through the news and what schools taught us and that was just the 90's. The R's got their echo chamber first so naturally it's more refined and ingrained the D's really didn't get theirs started until the mid aughts when the millennials came of age.

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I applaud Apple for trying this and I hope it works the way they envision but until we do simple things like de-coupling property tax from education funding, and enforcing educations standards colleges and employers are going to pick from high performing areas, we need to raise the standards not bump some up and lower others.

 

[GreenPixel]

Let’s try another example. Everybody needs to be able to get the the second floor of a public building. We don’t only provide stairs because some people wouldn’t be able to use them. Equality is providing different things for different needs, maybe an elevator in this example, so that everyone can achieve the same thing.

Again, not equality. That's equity (equal result). And while the example you have shown is arguably an appropriate example of the implementation of the goal of equity, chasing equity (making everything in life perfectly fair) leads to ruin because everyone's definition of fair is different.

 

[I7guy]

I don't think that's what he's saying. I think the issue some people have with Apple in regards to doing things like this is that they tend to be somewhat two faced on these types of issues.

Apple likes to do things that are easy, all in the name of the betterment of a cause.

Yes Apple is master at doing something that spans multiple worlds.

Examples:

Apple plays the "Environment" Card by removing chargers from the box: This absolutely helps Apple's bottom line but they can play that card to hide the fact that they are making a ton more money on selling chargers separately now as well as saving a ton of money by not including them in the box. At the end of the day Apple not only changed what their new phones need to fast charge, they introduced a whole new way to charge them which is just another ding to the environment. This is easy.

Not so fast. Not shipping tens of millions of chargers and not raising prices on the iphone 12 from the iphone 11, seems like a win-win. The environment never gets off scott-free, but at least there was a positive impact. And the bit about Apple raking it in with chargers sold separately is conjecture. You cannot know if the masses have decided to buy the equivalent Anker charger.

Apple starts racial equity programs: While this is great, its also easy. Most sane people are in support of racial equity and Apple will receive little to no backlash for doing something that is the right thing to do. This is also easy.

But when things are difficult, Apple turns a blind eye. The poster you responded to was actually spot on. Apple has been aware of the atrocities of the working conditions at their factories for years now.

What atrocities? And if here in the US we can't solve a problem like that, how is Apple supposed to solve this problem across the world?

They have employed companies knowing that they use child labor.

No they don't. They have subcontracted with a manufacturer, to which the manufacturer agrees on a code of ethics.

By now, Apple could have EASILY started their own manufacturing plants and over an amount of time moved all of their manufacturing in house. THAT IS DIFFICULT. And Apple doesn't like things that are difficult and that can hurt their bottom line.

Baloney. Apple has given time, money and resources over the last few years to various things. Apple takes a difficult challenge and makes it easy.

Its EASY to continue to employ factories with horrific conditions and child labor because its cheap and it makes Apple a ton of money.

This is hyperbole.

The difficult things are what earns respect, and far too many times Apple loves to promote things like this new program while at the same time allowing terrible things to happen in their name in other countries. And I am admittedly a part of the problem. I love and buy Apple products but I get a little weary of them and their moral high ground when its just not true.

Exactly what smartphones are you going to buy that is made totally in the US without any of the supply chain being located outside of the US. Apples' moral high ground is refreshing and comes off as sincere and genuine, especially compared to a company such as Facebook. YMMV.

 

[The1andOnly]

Responding to the OP, all I can say is that it takes me only 2-3 minutes to read the paper every day. I am sick and tired of politics and race, so I no longer read anything focused on either/both. Some days, even the food and/or sports sections are contaminated! So now, I can barely get my tech/Apple news without this stuff, too? C’mon man!

 

[_Refurbished_]

Slave storms?
Apple now needs to be in manufacturing to be good enough for you.

No, but a company touting all that they tout does.

 

[LongWayHome]

Yes Apple is master at doing something that spans multiple worlds.

Not so fast. Not shipping tens of millions of chargers and not raising prices on the iphone 12 from the iphone 11, seems like a win-win. The environment never gets off scott-free, but at least there was a positive impact. And the bit about Apple raking it in with chargers sold separately is conjecture. You cannot know if the masses have decided to buy the equivalent Anker charger.

What atrocities? And if here in the US we can't solve a problem like that, how is Apple supposed to solve this problem across the world?

No they don't. They have subcontracted with a manufacturer, to which the manufacturer agrees on a code of ethics.

Baloney. Apple has given time, money and resources over the last few years to various things. Apple takes a difficult challenge and makes it easy.

This is hyperbole.

Exactly what smartphones are you going to buy that is made totally in the US without any of the supply chain being located outside of the US. Apples' moral high ground is refreshing and comes off as sincere and genuine, especially compared to a company such as Facebook. YMMV.

Chargers: Do you feel that Apple should have increased the price of the iPhone 12 while removing the charger? Yeah that would go over like a ton of bricks. They had to keep the pricing the same or they would get destroyed. And at the end of the day, you are getting less with your money in terms of product. Secondly, you are living in a fantasy land if you think Apple isn't selling more charging bricks now. Its just common sense that they are, not to mention that they introduced a new charger that has an additional negative environmental impact. But you can choose your own opinions here.

What atrocities? You can research that on your own. And no one is asking Apple to solve the world's problems. But when they speak out about the environment do they just mean the U.S. environment? When they speak out against inequalities in the world do they just mean in the U.S?

Child labor - The absolutely do and its been reported as fact a number of times that they have continued to employ these manufacturers several years after finding out.

And Apple's moral high ground is again, when its easy and convenient for them. Can you explain to me why Apple doesn't speak out against the inequities that occur in Hong Kong? They are a WORLDWIDE company and have a huge presence over seas. Why would they remove a Hong Kong protesting app? Oh right, because the Chinese govt. deemed it "dangerous." There's no defending them doing that, it was simply to bow down to a dictatorship. Which again, is fine, but it doesn't exactly line up with their "We believe in the equity of all people" argument.

To your other point about buying Apple products. Yes, I am one of them. I like Apple products and I think what they've done here for social justice and equity is great. My only point is that I get a little tired of Apple's "We are the most moral company in the world" schtick when its far from true.

Apple, while what they are doing is noble, Apple is also a master of PR. They know people will eat this up and it makes them look great. Do you really think that CBS just "happened" to reach out to Tim Cook and shockingly the day they had this interview Apple told them that they had a big announcement coming the very next day? It was all a very carefully planned PR move by Apple to make sure they got as many people watching what they were doing and as many "Good job Apple" pats on the back they can get. Its just a little annoying is all. They did a great thing here, but just do it without making sure you tease it 24 hours before the announcement to get more people watching for it.

 

[MacBH928]

I agree. What will this eventually lead to as a white male? Get passed over for jobs even if I have more skills and experience?

The last few years have seen to REALLY make white males seem like a very very very bad then. And I fear it might eventually lead to a massive problem.

I mean I can’t even talk about sensitive topics that much anymore because the response I get is “You are just a white male”

Unfortunately, instead of having the society balance the scale they tipped so much that white people now feel a little oppressed. Fighting racism is by leveling the play field not by playing favourites which is exactly what racism is.

Some categories of people need help to be on the same level. Like in Germany we have a "girls day" in where girls are trying out professions that were mostly made up of males in the past. Like police, firefighters, construction, coding, you name it. Because some business sectors have a great demand for people and can't fill up those vacant jobs just by the people who are applying now, mostly men, they need to encourage girls to try and learn to code or join the police. Nothing wrong with that. I don't see any men crying foul just because girls get this special treatment. It's not that those jobs are just open for women now, it just means women are encouraged to apply as well. In the past they didn't even think they would get a chance or were not offered those jobs when searching through job apps.

& the response to @MacBH928

It sounds to me like their's some conflation of 'classification' and 'prejudice'. It's one thing to classify things into groups, and something else to take the next step to bias for/against said groups (AKA prejudice). These are evolutionary traits in all humans, but classification doesn't necessarily lead to prejudice. For example, children show an 'attractiveness' bias around 2mos (culturally-based), and an awareness of race around 3mos. However, gender & race-based biases and prejudices appear around ages 3-6, on average, which suggests socialization is a major driver of prejudice.

All countries/cultures classify and bias, but it depends on a lot of factors, and not always in the same way. In the US, statements like "Job opening for black people only" or "College scholarships. Only Asians can apply." are illegal, as they violate the Civil Rights Act. That said, you will find more subtle statements like 'women and people from minority ethnic groups encouraged to apply'. Essentially, these statements are saying 'We're kinda tired of the status quo, but we also know that historically-oppressed groups often don't apply, despite being qualified, because they think they may not be worthy."...

...Which leads into @xWhiplash's point about "What will this eventually lead to as a white male? Get passed over for jobs even if I have more skills and experience?" The short answer is: yes, it might. The long answer is: there is a high probability that you having 'more skills and experience' is due to a long history of preference for Whites that has led to systematic positive-prejudice to help Whites. Businesses may be more willing to invest in someone with a bit less experience, but has a different perspective than the White Heteropatriarchic status quo, because they want fresh ideas.

The fact that we might "...fear it might eventually lead to a massive problem" is privileged perspective because it's been a massive problem for a very long time, just not for you. We keep bringing up points like 'what will happen to us (the historically privileged group)? Or I can’t even talk about sensitive topics that much anymore because the response I get is “You are just a white male”. Have you considered that maybe people are reluctant to speak to you because of how you come across, like in your posts?

The long and short of it is that, YES, initiatives to help historically-oppressed peoples are not actually stomping on the historically-privileged, but rather equalizing the playing field. It just FEELS like us privileged folks are being stomped on and oppressed because we're not getting the same consideration as we're used to.

Long story short is that we shouldn't treat anyone different based on his background. So long as the options are available for everyone and the gov.s guarantees equality for all we don't need to support or favour anyone over the other, doing so is the definition of racism.

 

[retta283]

Responding to the OP, all I can say is that it takes me only 2-3 minutes to read the paper every day. I am sick and tired of politics and race, so I no longer read anything focused on either/both. Some days, even the food and/or sports sections are contaminated! So now, I can barely get my tech/Apple news without this stuff, too? C’mon man!

This I noticed too. I still pick up (yesterday's) paper for free from work from time to time, but only for community news. Recently though it's just all this crap being shoved down my throats even that my city is isolated from all the stuff going on on the mainland. I notice this site sliding more and more into politics, part of me does not blame MR for doing this as they are current tech-related events, but it's tiresome to people like me who want to block out as much of it as possible. It'd be nice to ignore this board, which I have done in settings, but the Spy doesn't reflect it and sometimes I see something I want to jump on...

 

[ericwn]

No, but a company touting all that they tout does.

I guess they know best what they can excel at. Manufacturing is not a strength of theirs and it’s doubtful that they can produce to market needs elsewhere. Probably also why nobody else does it.

 

[I7guy]

Chargers: Do you feel that Apple should have increased the price of the iPhone 12 while removing the charger? Yeah that would go over like a ton of bricks. They had to keep the pricing the same or they would get destroyed. And at the end of the day, you are getting less with your money in terms of product. Secondly, you are living in a fantasy land if you think Apple isn't selling more charging bricks now. Its just common sense that they are, not to mention that they introduced a new charger that has an additional negative environmental impact. But you can choose your own opinions here.

I'm sure Apple sold a few chargers, but your statement is a strawman. You cannot quantify any of what you posted.(other than if you personally know someone who bought an Apple charger) Additionally you are splitting hairs about the environmental impact. If someone needs a charger they need a charger. By not automatically shipping 10s of millions of chargers there is a positive environmental impact.

What atrocities? You can research that on your own. And no one is asking Apple to solve the world's problems. But when they speak out about the environment do they just mean the U.S. environment? When they speak out against inequalities in the world do they just mean in the U.S?

There is nothing to research the burden of proof is on you. Can you prove that Apple is complicit with anything happening abroad that violates fair labor laws?

Child labor - The absolutely do and its been reported as fact a number of times that they have continued to employ these manufacturers several years after finding out.

Apple Suspends Business With iPhone Supplier Pegatron for Labor Violations

Apple has suspended its partnership with Pegatron after it discovered that the major iPhone supplier was committing labor violations at a student workers' program. Bloomberg reports that several weeks ago Apple found Pegatron had been falsifying paperwork to cover up the violations of...

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And Apple's moral high ground is again, when its easy and convenient for them. Can you explain to me why Apple doesn't speak out against the inequities that occur in Hong Kong?

Can you explain why Apple should. Should Apple be involved in every single item in world affairs because you said so?

They are a WORLDWIDE company and have a huge presence over seas. Why would they remove a Hong Kong protesting app? Oh right, because the Chinese govt. deemed it "dangerous." There's no defending them doing that, it was simply to bow down to a dictatorship. Which again, is fine, but it doesn't exactly line up with their "We believe in the equity of all people" argument.

Similar to the way Apple/Google et al removed Parler?

To your other point about buying Apple products. Yes, I am one of them. I like Apple products and I think what they've done here for social justice and equity is great. My only point is that I get a little tired of Apple's "We are the most moral company in the world" schtick when its far from true.

Apple might be the most moral company in the world. Maybe they don't meet your standards, but they say and do the things that at least give them the right to say that.

Apple, while what they are doing is noble, Apple is also a master of PR. They know people will eat this up and it makes them look great.

They not only look great, they do good things. Or did you forget about the time, money and resources they have sent out of the company for various causes over the last few years?

Do you really think that CBS just "happened" to reach out to Tim Cook and shockingly the day they had this interview Apple told them that they had a big announcement coming the very next day? It was all a very carefully planned PR move by Apple to make sure they got as many people watching what they were doing and as many "Good job Apple" pats on the back they can get. Its just a little annoying is all. They did a great thing here, but just do it without making sure you tease it 24 hours before the announcement to get more people watching for it.

Apple is investing $100 million dollars for a cause the company deems worthy. Any and all publicity is fair game. You can choose to ignore all of this if it's not you're fancy.

 

[cbaca51]

70+ million people voted for Trump. I’m not shocked, unfortunately, by all the bigoted comments in this thread going on about this....

 

[Jmausmuc]

I just wanted to confirm this post from back in September, is this you? If not, I'll gladly apologize but if so it's about as low as one can go.

S6 Graphite

Graphite looks so nice with silver link strap it give it a 2 tone the black strap didn’t look right 1600538774 I had silver stainless steel since series 1 and now love the graphite, why do you wanna change

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Lol this is embarrassing. Good catch.

 

[Dunk the Lunk]

I just wanted to confirm this post from back in September, is this you? If not, I'll gladly apologize but if so it's about as low as one can go.

S6 Graphite

Graphite looks so nice with silver link strap it give it a 2 tone the black strap didn’t look right 1600538774 I had silver stainless steel since series 1 and now love the graphite, why do you wanna change

forums.macrumors.com

Haha, brilliant!

 

[djlythium]

Long story short is that we shouldn't treat anyone different based on his background. So long as the options are available for everyone and the gov.s guarantees equality for all we don't need to support or favour anyone over the other, doing so is the definition of racism.

I think I see what you’re saying. Correct!

 

[Karma*Police]

It is not racist. Systematic racism exists. Until it is addressed it will continue to exist. You can’t fight it by ignoring it, you have to look at its causes and look at what you can do to undo those systems. Providing additional opportunities to minorities who currently have fewer opportunities than their white counter parts is how you do that. You address the big problems first then you can move on to the smaller ones.


Given that Cook is working directly with the King family I’m going to suggest you not try and say what MLK would or wouldn’t want, the people who knew him directly almost certainly have a better idea than you do.

Of course it's racist. They're identifying who they decide to help based on race. If you're white or Asian, tough luck. That's the very definition of racism!

King family is not MLK.

Are there racists? Absolutely. As a minority, I can attest to that. But that's not the same thing as systemic racism. If that were true, we couldn't have had a black president, or over 10K African Americans in position of political power, super-rich and influential athletes, businesspeople, entertainers, etc. Anyone with the right work ethic and talent can go as far as they want to go in this country.

You should watch the videos I included in the post that you replied to. It's enlightening. I'll repost for your edification:

- Morgan Freeman, Denzel Washington and others on racism
- Black Americans failed by good intentions
- Where’s the proof of systemic racism?

 

[LongWayHome]

I'm sure Apple sold a few chargers, but your statement is a strawman. You cannot quantify any of what you posted.(other than if you personally know someone who bought an Apple charger) Additionally you are splitting hairs about the environmental impact. If someone needs a charger they need a charger. By not automatically shipping 10s of millions of chargers there is a positive environmental impact.

There is nothing to research the burden of proof is on you. Can you prove that Apple is complicit with anything happening abroad that violates fair labor laws?

Apple Suspends Business With iPhone Supplier Pegatron for Labor Violations

Apple has suspended its partnership with Pegatron after it discovered that the major iPhone supplier was committing labor violations at a student workers' program. Bloomberg reports that several weeks ago Apple found Pegatron had been falsifying paperwork to cover up the violations of...

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Can you explain why Apple should. Should Apple be involved in every single item in world affairs because you said so?

Similar to the way Apple/Google et al removed Parler?

Apple might be the most moral company in the world. Maybe they don't meet your standards, but they say and do the things that at least give them the right to say that.

They not only look great, they do good things. Or did you forget about the time, money and resources they have sent out of the company for various causes over the last few years?

Apple is investing $100 million dollars for a cause the company deems worthy. Any and all publicity is fair game. You can choose to ignore all of this if it's not you're fancy.

Lol, I mean I can throw out news stories too:

Apple knew a supplier was using child labor but took 3 years to fully cut ties, despite the company's promises to hold itself to the 'highest standards,' report says

Ex-employees told The Information that Apple kept working with suppliers, despite repeated labor law violations, when cutting ties was more costly.

www.businessinsider.com

Careful with comparing Parler to the app Apple removed from Hong Kong. Apple was bowing to a dictatorship removing the app from the hong kong app store. Its completely baseless to compare the two and honestly is a really bad look for you comparing them.

And Apple can do whatever they want. I merely stated that their moral fist pumping can get tiresome sometimes when they fail to meet these moral standards they preach on in other parts of the world. And yes, PR is fair game, but its also really tacky in this instance when you try and tell people "Oh it was just by chance that I happened to interview Tim Cook and this had nothing to do with Apple making this big announcement the very next day."

 

[I7guy]

Lol, I mean I can throw out news stories too:

Apple knew a supplier was using child labor but took 3 years to fully cut ties, despite the company's promises to hold itself to the 'highest standards,' report says

Ex-employees told The Information that Apple kept working with suppliers, despite repeated labor law violations, when cutting ties was more costly.

www.businessinsider.com

Sure, seems the story is a lot of spin with many details missing, such as what was Apples' real response to the allegations. And did the supplier say they remediated the problem, etc? But sure we can throw out news stories left, right and center. If one wants to make a point, there is some source on the internet to prove it.

Careful with comparing Parler to the app Apple removed from Hong Kong. Apple was bowing to a dictatorship removing the app from the hong kong app store. Its completely baseless to compare the two and honestly is a really bad look for you comparing them.

Let's see, one request was due to an app being used to plan and incite violence, the other request was due to an app being used to plan and incite violence or at least feed into it. Who has the really bad look again?

And Apple can do whatever they want. I merely stated that their moral fist pumping can get tiresome sometimes when they fail to meet these moral standards they preach on in other parts of the world. And yes, PR is fair game, but its also really tacky in this instance when you try and tell people "Oh it was just by chance that I happened to interview Tim Cook and this had nothing to do with Apple making this big announcement the very next day."

Different strokes for different folks...what you deem tacky, is not my perception of the PR. YMMV.

 

[pmbooks]

I wonder if Apple has read the book Cynical Justice, describing the differences between equality of opportunity, which Martin Luther King so heroically fought for, and equality of outcome.