A "very small percentage" that Apple didn't discover between October 2020 to April 2021.
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Respectfully, America isn't like the rest of the world. In America, if you can't afford an iPhone you can sign a contract and get a payment plan for one. That's called freedom. In a developing country, if you can't afford an iPhone you just don't buy one.This is BS. Majority of people in the world don’t have these kind of contracts. Most people keep their phones longer than 2 years. Besides, Apple support iPhones software for at least 5 years. Only having 2 years for a component failure is ridiculous. Either put an actual recall or have longer coverage. Like I said, the old Apple used to have 4 years for programs like this. But I guess Apple is no longer interested in giving good support for the premium price they’re charging.
So you're saying Apple, who is selling the iPhones internationally (at a markup) is only providing a service for a failed component that affects iPhones worldwide with a US-centric policy ?Respectfully, America isn't like the rest of the world. In America, if you can't afford an iPhone you can sign a contract and get a payment plan for one. That's called freedom. In a developing country, if you can't afford an iPhone you just don't buy one.
Thanks to the magic of freedom, I have a house, a car, an education, a phone, sets of furniture, computers - none of which I can technically "afford". But as long as I keep my job, the economy does well, and I don't have any emergencies or health issues or unplanned events, I get to "have" them. And if that isn't happiness, what is?
So anyway maybe this 2 year repair plan is just designed for the discerning American consumer
The repair program is a marketing trick for Apple to avoid actual recalls. The thing is, they used to offer reasonable length of time for the programs (eg. 4 years) to cover customers having the issue down the road way beyond the typical warranty and Applecare coverage. Made sense since Apple supports the software for at least 5 years or so. But 2 years?A "very small percentage" that Apple didn't discover between October 2020 to April 2021.
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Sounds like you have the wrong perspective. Be thankful a company identifies an issue you “could” “potentially” have, they extend the part warranty for an additional two years. They aren’t obligated to do that. If you don’t have an issue, why complain.Why just two years? The iPhone 12 will be supported longer than that, and component failure means there will be devices that failed much later. If you look at older service programs, Apple was more generous, setting the time period for 4 years or so.
What happened if the component fails after the 2 year mark? Do customers have to pay up for Apple’s QC fault?
I just switched from Samsung. Go give it a try and see how it works. You’ll cry to come back…So you're saying Apple, who is selling the iPhones internationally (at a markup) is only providing a service for a failed component that affects iPhones worldwide with a US-centric policy ?
The likelihood of me buying Apple products keep decreasing by the day.
So a company doesn't have any obligation if they know they put a failing component inside their premium products?Sounds like you have the wrong perspective. Be thankful a company identifies an issue you “could” “potentially” have, they extend the part warranty for an additional two years. They aren’t obligated to do that. If you don’t have an issue, why complain.
I have an S21 as my primary driver and just switch my Windows laptop to a Samsung Galaxy Tab. In fact, typing on it right now. At least they are not costing me an arm and a leg.I just switched from Samsung. Go give it a try and see how it works. You’ll cry to come back…
I mean nobody can really know how corporate policy is made, myself included. Have you considered lobbying your country's government to make it easier to borrow against your future like we've done in America? Financing everything (car, house, phones, computers, education, furniture, groceries, everything) is a great lifestyle and makes a lot of sense and is very safe and beneficial as long as nothing goes wrongSo you're saying Apple, who is selling the iPhones internationally (at a markup) is only providing a service for a failed component that affects iPhones worldwide with a US-centric policy ?
The likelihood of me buying Apple products keep decreasing by the day.
The iPhone 12 series has now sold over 100 million units and powered the first iPhone sales super-cycle since the launch of the iPhone 6, according to Counterpoint Research.what's a small percentage of 250 million iPhone 12 sold? 2.5 million?
Any number less than 100%. 😁what's a small percentage of 250 million iPhone 12 sold? 2.5 million?
Apple planned $1.3 Billion on service cost in China alone. Maybe the same amount for Europe, USA and Australia idk. Imagine those 5 billion can be saved.But I guess Apple is no longer interested in giving good support for the premium price they’re charging.
“Apple says the repair program covers affected iPhone 12 or 12 Pro devices for two years after the first retail sale of the device.”Life goes on, Apple will step up.
Yeah, let’s pretending 2020 and onwards doesn’t exist.and beneficial as long as nothing goes wrong
“Apple says the repair program covers affected iPhone 12 or 12 Pro devices for two years after the first retail sale of the device.”
That’s ******** right there! In EU we already have two year warranty!
“Apple says the repair program covers affected iPhone 12 or 12 Pro devices for two years after the first retail sale of the device.”
That’s ******** right there! In EU we already have two year warranty!
I can understand defects. Nothing can be 100% perfect of a mass produced things. The problematic part here is Apple’s unwillingness to just do a recall, and instead provide a very short term program to cover it. This is in contrast to, eg for the 6 Plus Touch Disease, Apple repair program covers it to 5 years.Coming from a 6 Plus with Touch Disease to an iPhone 7 with Loop Disease, then an iPhone 12 with Sound Disease — these things should have been vaccinated before leaving the factory.
So you are telling people to go into debt to give Apple money while giving less support?I mean nobody can really know how corporate policy is made, myself included. Have you considered lobbying your country's government to make it easier to borrow against your future like we've done in America? Financing everything (car, house, phones, computers, education, furniture, groceries, everything) is a great lifestyle and makes a lot of sense and is very safe and beneficial as long as nothing goes wrong
That's the problem I've been reading about Apple. If they announced a specific thing like this, they would ignore other related devices with the exact same issue. Just like the stage backlight problem of their MacBook Pros. They only specified the specific 13" model, despite the same issue is plaguing other years a d models. And all that was just because Apple was too stingy to use a slightly longer cable. But let their own premium customers pay for it. Appalling. .With Apple, a very small number, might mean every iPhone 12.
I have the Pro Max and mini. I wonder if there has been any reports of it on those too, despite it right now be limited to the regular 12?