From 2013?! I'm waiting on the refresh before I change to a trash can Mac Pro, but that's sad to see this is only just now getting addressed.![]()
manufactured between February 8, 2015 and April 11, 2015
The model is Called the late 2013 MP
From 2013?! I'm waiting on the refresh before I change to a trash can Mac Pro, but that's sad to see this is only just now getting addressed.![]()
manufactured between February 8, 2015 and April 11, 2015
It will arrive.From 2013?! I'm waiting on the refresh before I change to a trash can Mac Pro, but that's sad to see this is only just now getting addressed.![]()
Well it's Apple's fault for making a 'pro machine' that was infinitely more upgradable and at the same time cools it's GPU's 1000x better into a damn trash can that's slowly cooking the dGPU's just like iMacs and MBP's!
Well it's Apple's fault for making a 'pro machine' that was infinitely more upgradable and at the same time cools it's GPU's 1000x better into a damn trash can that's slowly cooking the dGPU's just like iMacs and MBP's!
Agreed. There was a time for Apple when 'elegant design' meant making computers that were maybe a bit bigger, but still beautiful. They used to pride themselves in software that was incredibly powerful, yet still intuative to use. Now 'innovation' for Apple just means just making hardware thinner (and impossible to fix) and software devoid of features it used to have, in the name of supposed 'simplicity'. Just listen to Marco Arment, John Siracusa and Casey Liss from the latest ATP Podcast. They go in exhaustive detail how they feel Apple has gone way overboard with 'appearances' at the expense of usability ... with some of their harshest criticism for the new Apple TV interface, which they argue was made to look good in screen shots, but is absolutely horrible to actually use:
http://atp.fm
It's good to know Apple addresses these issues unlike other companies who ignores users entirely. I appreciate their response
But their video card problems have been around since the beginning. Every year of MacBook pros has had a recall (except 2015 I think)Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing, will check out this podcast later today.
It's clearly a joke to me. The "made in America" label used to mean great products that will last more than "made in xyz"ANY news of MP...is GREAT NEWS....(breathing hard).
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I am not sure if made in America has anything to do with machine failure. I mean, take a look at foxconn. They made failure products...so why does "made in America" have to be discriminated?
Apple is always late to assume responsibility. They hate giving away free repairs since the products are "premium".What's so good about this, Jimmy?
What I'm reading above is - MacPros that shipped from Feb15 have known faults. Discussion forums since Feb15 have noted this fault. Now, in FEB 2016 - a year later - Apple pulls its finger out and creates a Repair Program???
That is NOT good. That is poor!
Yay for anyone who may have an affected MacPro and NOT suffered symptoms to date, who can get a free repair... Boo for all the poor people out there with this machine, who have had an incredibly expensive paperweight sitting on their desk for 12 months!
Trust me, it's got nothing to do with the solder balls. If it was, reballing them would actually fix them. Hint: it doesn't.It's all down to being RohS compliant. These gpu problems started to come up after they stopped using lead in the solder. With the RohS compliant tin solders, they just start to disintegrate after a series of hot/cold cycles and the solder cracks, leading to these problems. It'd frankly be a lot more environmentally friendly if they went back to using lead/tin blends instead of replacing the chip 5 times.
Well it's Apple's fault for making a 'pro machine' that was infinitely more upgradable and at the same time cools it's GPU's 1000x better into a damn trash can that's slowly cooking the dGPU's just like iMacs and MBP's!
I remember when Apple was all about the powermac. Times have certainly changed. I guess it's indicative of the fast paced mobile world we now live in, but I kinda miss those days. Hopefully Apple will show some love and attention to us more sedentary creative types. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Heck, they haven't updated their cinema displays in what? 5 years? They are still thicker than the iMacs and are non retina for cryin out loud! Lol.
Apple has determined that graphics cards in some late 2013 Mac Pros, manufactured between February 8, 2015 and April 11, 2015, may cause distorted video, no video, system instability, freezing, restarts, shut downs, or may prevent system start up.
It's all down to being RohS compliant. These gpu problems started to come up after they stopped using lead in the solder. With the RohS compliant tin solders, they just start to disintegrate after a series of hot/cold cycles and the solder cracks, leading to these problems. It'd frankly be a lot more environmentally friendly if they went back to using lead/tin blends instead of replacing the chip 5 times.
Finally!
It seems quite clear IMO why Apple is trying to get rid of dGPUs as fast as possible. It seems like every other iteration of Mac has dGPU issues. Apple must be sick of them. The route they took with the 4K iMacs makes me thing the next major MBP redesign won't have dGPUs at all.
Yeah! This is why irreplaceable GPUs are a horrible idea. If the Mac Pro used PCIe, you could just go down to Best Buy for a replacement GPU. It also be good if the 15" MacBook Pros used MXM GPUs because it make them replaceable and upgradeable.Ah, see. these symptoms are identical to the 2011 MacBook Pros GPU failures.
doesn't this prove that these new 'trash can' Mac "Pro"s are just as fallible as a system for intense use as the MBP's etc were? the towers clearly could take the stress.