Apple Launches Retina MacBook Pros with Faster Haswell Processors, More RAM Standard

[Tech198]

no no..

People have to learn by now.... "Apple users don't go by specs... Windows users do."

That's how it is... While we Apple folk have to take the rap for good software and all above everything else..just to make things sound better than they really are.

But that's for another forum.. not this one.

 

[yesjam]

I bought mine about 5 months ago. Could I get a free update if I complained at the Apple store? Kinda upset tho...

Five months is a bit long. 150 days? It just means you bought a MacBook Pro partway through its typical upgrade cycle, which is approximately 250 days. The only time in recent memory that Apple really screwed over consumers re: its upgrade cycle was the iPad 3 debacle...this stuff is pretty easily researched. Sorry.

 

[MH01]

This supports the opposite of the point your were trying to make. The new Razer Blade has been heavily criticized for coming with a huge drop in battery life (as well as a major price increase over the previous generation). The poor battery life in particular, is the price of making a move out-of-sync with Intel.

Apple would be ripped if they made a move like this.

Actually no, my favourite apple laptop was the 12 PowerBook pro . There is no reason apple cannot put more power into the 13, not everyone needs huge battery life, most pro tasks will be conducted with the power cable attached.

My point is that it's not due to design constraints as others do it.

Apple in the past have given us portability and power, now they deem that 13 mbp must run a power efficient CPU , forcing people to get the 15 when a 13 would be perfect

 

[yesjam]

no no..

People have to learn by now.... "Apple users don't go by specs... Windows users do."

That's how it is...

This is true to an extent, because for the vast, vast majority of users, their use of a Mac laptop will not change significantly, if at all, if they have a Haswell MacBook Pro or a Broadwell MacBook Pro. OS X is an efficient enough operating system that someone who buys a mid-2014 MacBook Pro will be satisfied for years and years, as is the case with any Mac.

 

[MH01]

I bought mine about 5 months ago. Could I get a free update if I complained at the Apple store? Kinda upset tho...

Why would you be upset? It's a really minor update and you got 5 months of a machine that is almost identical in performance.

 

[DJEmergency]

Why would you be upset? It's a really minor update and you got 5 months of a machine that is almost identical in performance.

Maybe. I'm on a MacBook Pro Retina 15' 16GB RAM, 2.3Ghz i7 Quadcore, nVidia 750M 2GB, and 512GB SSD.

 

[MagicBoy]

Maybe. I'm on a MacBook Pro Retina 15' 16GB RAM, 2.3Ghz i7 Quadcore, nVidia 750M 2GB, and 512GB SSD.

1st world problems ahoy! Oh no. You've missed out on 0.2GHz by not waiting 5 months. The horror!

See that big thing up the top labelled "Buyers Guide"? Read it next time.

Apple have a 30 day return policy to cover recent purchases. They don't have to, they choose to offer it. 5 months. LOL.

 

[DJEmergency]

1st world problems ahoy! Oh no. You've missed out on 0.2GHz by not waiting 5 months. The horror!

See that big thing up the top labelled "Buyers Guide"? Read it next time.

Apple have a 30 day return policy to cover recent purchases. They don't have to, they choose to offer it. 5 months. LOL.

You don't need to be an a** about it. I just asked a simple question is all.

 

[Clocksetbyfeel]

Image Retention

Hopefully they will have better suppliers for the Retina display.
My Late 2013 Retina Macbook Pro still suffers from slight image retention which is more noticeable then my Late 2012 Retina Macbook Pro. I read somewhere that in IPS displays it's common but with the rumored IGZO screens in future macs my wish may come true

 

[KPOM]

Not a chance skylake will be out so soon after Broadwell. Come June next year, my predication is another lengthy delay.

They are on different schedules. Broadwell is proving problematic but supposedly Skylake is not. I think the issue is that Intel is having problems with yields on the 14nm process. By definition, once they get Broadwell sorted out they will have fixed that, so Skylake involves writing a different architecture on the same fabs.

 

[gadgetgirl85]

How about 8GB ram standard in the MBA's as well!

 

[paysdoufs]

Good luck using a "Pro" machine without the (industry standard) LAN and VGA ports, and with only 2 USB ports (one for the headset and one for the mouse receiver and you're stuck...)

That' why "Windows switcher" keep buying the non-Retina MBP. Because they're used to being able to work with their computers.

Retina-MBPs - ridiculous, overpriced machines...

 

[koban4max]

instead of waiting for next intel processor...how about you buy a current one if you NEED it.

 

[Tech198]

This would be good too, however i think Apple *believes* MBA as "not as good as a pro* on the "pro" front, which kind of understandable, and i guess the option to upgrade at purchase is always there.

Yet, on the other hand. its also leaving it behind in the pack.... most other Mac's are 8 Gig, but the Air isn't....

Maybe Apple knows that most people wouldn't be needing more than 4 Gig ?

 

[Quu]

Things I like:

- 16GB Standard on 15"
- Faster Processors
- Lower Prices

Things I don't like

- Still only 2880x1800 display. Meaning it's fuzzy when running at 1920x1200 desktop mode.
- Still only a 750m GPU.

 

[binnym]

I brought a 13 inch Macbook Pro 13 retina last month (June 27) on line. A custom build with i7 processor 16gb ram and 1tb hdd. Had company discount on order. But now new updated one and $100 less. So sad.

 

[MH01]

Maybe. I'm on a MacBook Pro Retina 15' 16GB RAM, 2.3Ghz i7 Quadcore, nVidia 750M 2GB, and 512GB SSD.

You will not be able to tell the difference between your machine and the new model in practical tasks. Enjoy your machine it's fine.

 

[Thunderhawks]

Thunderhawks is my doppleganger. I'm still running a 2009 2.66GHz Quadcore Mac Pro. I'd love a new 2013 Mac Pro with dual GPU's, it would significantly speed up RAW exports to JPEG in Capture One Pro 7. But the thought of buying $3,500 machine with an additional expense of buying a gaggle of external drives to replace my internal drives squashes the itch for a new machine a might bit quick. ...and my old and ever aging machine, including the ancient video card, is still a workhorse with three SSD's, and a USB 3 card (for importing 90GB worth of photos ever Sunday morning).

Edit: I plan on holding out for at least another 2-3 years if I can before I upgrade my 2009 Mac Pro. I prefer to drive them into the ground. By then I'm hoping at least one two new versions of the current Mac Pro will have made it's way through the retail channels so I can upgrade to a refurb on the cheap. ...the only brand spanking new computer I've ever purchased is the 2013 MacBook Air - because I wanted that PCIe boot drive.

You are a learned Apple user
After a 1984 Mac with 128 KKKKKK, did I mention K? I kept upgrading etc. until I learned that it is cheaper to assess what one needs 3 years later and until then only do minor tweaks.
Usually the Mac waits for my input, but as soon as I wait for the Mac to process something I know , time go upgrade or get a new refurb.

Have been lucky with ebay stuff too.

Just added an OWC SSD to my 2008 MBP and love it. Feels like a new Mac for at least a year.

 

[arnies]

Why are we blaming Intel? Can someone explain that to me please?

 

[cgc]

Why are we blaming Intel? Can someone explain that to me please?

Because people can't check their love for Apple at the door and assume Apple can do no wrong.

I'm as big of fan of Apple as anyone, but this is an update only to appease us. If this is part of the "best product pipeline in 25 years" I'm not impressed. At least Apple could have adopted nVidia 850M or 860M and most of us would buy one but it's pretty weak leaving old technology in their top-of-the-line laptop.

 

[antwormcity]

Why are we blaming Intel? Can someone explain that to me please?

Because everyone has closed their eyes. Nvidia offers several options for a dGPU but Apple does not bite it.

We are talking Kepler to Maxwell difference.

For the graphics intensive apps and parallel computing pros, this is a dealbreaker. Maybe the 850M upgrade does not add 1 additional hour of battery life that Apple can market.

For how much I love Apple, this is a d*ckhead move. Retina Macbook Pro is 'behind' in technology.

 

[omenatarhuri]

Because everyone has closed their eyes. Nvidia offers several options for a dGPU but Apple does not bite it.

We are talking Kepler to Maxwell difference.

For the graphics intensive apps and parallel computing pros, this is a dealbreaker. Maybe the 850M upgrade does not add 1 additional hour of battery life that Apple can market.

For how much I love Apple, this is a d*ckhead move. Retina Macbook Pro is 'behind' in technology.

It's really hard to understand this. I don't get it. Kinda hard to see them making another update to add new GPU before Broadwell.

Some one somewhere screwed this up.

 

[MagicBoy]

It's really hard to understand this. I don't get it. Kinda hard to see them making another update to add new GPU before Broadwell.

Some one somewhere screwed this up.

No-one at Apple screwed it up. It's a speed bump to tide over until the next gen machine with Broadwell. Intel are offering faster CPUs at the same price, so Apple took the opportunity to refresh the range.

Designing a new logic board with Maxwell, writing firmware, updating the OS and Drivers followed by QA/testing all at the last minute due to a hitch with Intel production schedule is an epic waste of money if it's only for 6 months.

The 750M is fit for purpose, unless your a hardcore gamer. In which case go buy an MSI gaming PC that weighs a lot more and has a 2 hour battery life.

 

[Hildegerd]

I used to get excited about these announcements. Given how expensive these works of art are still, and now that we are pretty much living in a post-PC era, are laptops relevant only to enthusiasts and the creative professional?

Not quite true, everybody benefits with having a laptop in the house even if they aren't creative professionals.

 

[foiden]

This would be good too, however i think Apple *believes* MBA as "not as good as a pro* on the "pro" front, which kind of understandable, and i guess the option to upgrade at purchase is always there.

Yet, on the other hand. its also leaving it behind in the pack.... most other Mac's are 8 Gig, but the Air isn't....

Maybe Apple knows that most people wouldn't be needing more than 4 Gig ?

Makes sense. I think the Air is supposedly the main *consumer* level machine left. The main Mac that isn't meant to be a Logic Pro or a Final Cut/Adobe Premiere machine. Given the rest of the hardware isn't meant to power through the high-ram using applications, it's basically the new super slender standard Macbook class.