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Apple Launching A9X-Based 12.9" iPad Pro in November for $799+

toke lahti said:
Or maybe they will have to put out competitive prices for the first time...

Seriously, I'd strongly prefer 3:2 aspect ratio or even 16:10, lower hight would make it much easier to handle and moving pictures 16:9 or less in hight...
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Yes, this should motivate them to finally innovate again and stop using the same 20 years old input tech in their crappy overpriced products, just because the lack of real competition. Yes, I am looking at you, Cintiq Companion 1 & 2, ICS2 and notoriously buggy drivers for entire product line.

We are really looking forward to the iPad Pro with its tilt and pressure sensitive stylus and all the versatility it brings along!
Long live the pencil! Well now, hopefully, the :apple: Pencil... ;)
 
stubbornapple said:
My iPad Air 2 feels small after this announcement, but the iPad pro is just not for me.
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I agree. I picked my iPad Air up shortly after watching the video and it felt like I was holding a Mini.

If the stylus works correctly, then I'm sold. I've tried 3 high-end styluses and none of them work as I hoped.

Everybody is talking about how it's not for professional designers, etc. Professional designers are still going to need a laptop/desktop. I plan on getting an IPP and using it for ideas, comps, notes, etc. Then, doing the real design on my MBP. If it works as a secondary display with no latency using 3rd party apps and a Lightning cable, then that's a bonus. It will be real interesting to see what Adobe comes up with to utilize the IPP.

And $799 for a 32GB wi-fi model? I think that is a good deal. I believe I paid $699 for 32GB wi-fi iPad Air when it first came out. $100 more for the latest processor and bigger screen is very fair.
 
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And it still doesn't run a full operating system. Thanks but no thanks Apple. I'll take the Surface tablet which can run full OS software, full Microsoft office, steam stream for pc gaming and xbox one streaming for console gaming over this IOS freemium (clash of clans etc) slinging crap any day of the week.

The iPad Air 2 was powerful enough to run full OS X, yet you kept iOS on it. The iPad Pro is more than enough to run OS X, yet you keep IOS on it. The most innovating years for IOS were the days before freemium became a thought. Now every game company is peddling gambling style gaming addiction for FREE to any kid that can get ahold of an IOS device.
 
spiderman0616 said:
I tried to go for a long time with a Mac mini as my main computer, an iPad as my portable computer, and iPhone as my pocket computer. (Later added the Apple Watch as my wrist computer.)

Recently, the Mac mini started holding me back on some of the more high powered things I was trying to do with it. I also noticed that the iPad Air was sitting in my backpack more and more and only being used for Netflix about 3 times a week. Most times when I needed a portable computer, I was going to my iPhone 6 and neglecting to even think about the iPad. I tried getting a keyboard case and using it with iOS 9 beta for awhile to see if it could serve better as a makeshift laptop, and I was SORELY disappointed by the combination of iOS and a keyboard for productivity.

I am a HUGE fan of all things Apple, but I finally had to admit that the iPad was just not my thing anymore. It wasn't powerful enough to be my main computer (much like my Mac mini) and it wasn't convenient enough to choose over my iPhone. In fact, if I had to choose between leaving the house without my Apple Watch or leaving the house without my iPad, I'd leave the iPad at home every single time.

What I eventually did was sell the Mac mini AND the iPad Air, and get a 13" rMBP instead. For me, it has been a wonderful mix of power and portability with no compromises in hardware or software. Haven't missed my iPad for a second.

What I saw today with the iPad Pro did not change my mind at all. It's still iOS trying to be a computer, and it's still really just a tablet with a keyboard case. I do realize this is just Apple trying to shake things up a bit, but there is pretty good evidence now that most tablet users just use their tablets for Netflix and Facebook.
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The question is what is wrong with using your tablet only for Netflix and Facebook (which stands for media consumption, ie, video, audio, reading, and light Internet usage, ie, 'web surfing', short communication). I think there is nothing wrong with that, except that Apple might have increasing trouble selling their tablets at their current prices.

The question is how large the niche is for applications beyond consumption and light communication that work better on a touch-device (eg, because they don't need a desk) and better enough that they warrant getting an extra device for that (including getting data on and off that device) compared to getting a dual-use device. That niche certainly exists and is growing but again, maybe dual-use devices will be the one serving it in the end.
 
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I'm not at all interested in it. However, I can see a lot of uses in enterprise-type stuff. Don't know if the apps will be there for such uses, but you never know until you try.
 
EmaDaCuz said:
At first, I said to myself "Get it now!". Then I did the maths, and it is simply not worth it. As most of you guys pointed out, it will cost more than a 13" MBP, and around the price of a MB. Plus, I bet the revamped/new apps by Adobe and other pro software houses will cost quite a bit. No way to run OS X software, so you have to invest some money unless you want the stock apps. So why this over a laptop?
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That's the wrong question. It's not this over a laptop, it is either a laptop or a laptop plus an iPad. It's almost never an either or (except maybe for those that strongly prefer a desktop computer over using a laptop on a desk).
 
sracer said:
haha... I was overdue for a change.

I had been waiting for the reveal of the iPad Pro before deciding what to do about my iPad 2 and iPad 4. Now I know... full steam ahead on getting an Air 2. I believe that it will be the long-hauler of that generation.

I'm also questioning whether there is palm rejection for the Apple Pencil:
See the 3:00 mark....

And during this entire video....
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I caught that too. But I'm suspicious if that really is Palm rejection or not.

Also keep in mind if the pencil really has high pressure sensitive levels like Wacom or if they're hiding the real specs of it to bamboozle people into buying it.

For me, the Wacom is far more precise and practical.
 
macguy360 said:
The iPad Air 2 was powerful enough to run full OS X, yet you kept iOS on it. The iPad Pro is more than enough to run OS X, yet you keep IOS on it.
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Just wondering if wikileaks would have existed back then, would osx for intel have leaked out like osx for a-chips is not leaking out...
"If you see a stylus, they blew it." It took 5 years for Apple to grow out of fingerpainting, average child is faster...
 
farmboy said:
FYI, Microsoft had to license the iPad cover patents to make their "innovative" keyboard cover. It's still an Apple invention. Even Logitech would cry foul if you're claiming it's a Microsoft invention, as they marketed an iPad keyboard cover for about five years now.
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Okay, didn't know that.
 
i already kinda knew it would have iOS - it still shocked me when they announced it though... Surface pro 4, get ready for papa...

screw iOS on a pro 'anything'... i don't care what anyone says, OS X on a magazine-sized tablet - using a stylus and not your kindergarten fingers - would be a dream. optimized, shmoptimized...

o_O:(:mad:
 
More then 1,000 dollars to have the LTE???
A PRO model and no way to connect a simple pen drive???
They are crazy!
Steve, where are you?
 
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Even Longer said:
Keep thinking inside the box, my dear professional creative. And don't disturb the others outside it...
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Do you play with crayons or finger paint on the job?

I know what I'm talking about. You will NOT be able to use desktop class digital creative apps on the iPad pro. EVER. It's limited to use iOS.

Judging from your arrogance, you do not appear to have actual professional experience using a Wacom tablet at all.
 
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Wiesenlooser said:
Microsoft isn't a hardware company like Apple is. They dont have the reputation to get the same sales. Specially since Windows 8 wasn't that great.

However the surface line is actually selling pretty well. Not iPad levels but good and increasingly so. And with windows 10 the surface pro 3 is actually a very capable machine , I've tried it and I was fairly impressed. Also, the kickstand/keyboard solution just leaps apples solution, that only has one angle.

In just a month or so microsoft will show the surface pro 4 family and well, lets say that if they improve on the surface pro 3 (which I don't doubt at all) it is hard to justify the ipad Pro if you want to do some serious work with your tablet.
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I don't deny the usefulness of the Surface line (except maybe the ARM Surface), especially for doing lot's of types of serious work. But I think that there also a lot of usage types for which people prefer an iPad.
 
" Apple also says the tablet has 80% faster performance and 90% faster graphics over portable PCs, allowing users to run apps such as iMovie with desktop-class performance."

Close but not quite there... I want to run all my MacOSX applications and access all my data on my iPad. Add a pen with pressure sensitivity and a few buttons (standard in desktop applications) and I'm sold as well be millions of other people. Make that tens of millions. Coupled with a keyboard to use when I need it and a base station it would replace my desktop and MacBook Pro needs for many things although I would still keep my MacBook for the larger screen...
 
puzzled by the pencil's recharging format. why not have a lightning or mini usb port in it and have it charged by way of usb instead of leeching odd the iPad pro's battery. plus a skinny peripheral sticking out of an iPad held in by a somewhat flimsy connector could be prone to breakage.
 
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pubwvj said:
" Apple also says the tablet has 80% faster performance and 90% faster graphics over portable PCs, allowing users to run apps such as iMovie with desktop-class performance."

Close but not quite there... I want to run all my MacOSX applications and access all my data on my iPad. Add a pen with pressure sensitivity and a few buttons (standard in desktop applications) and I'm sold as well be millions of other people. Make that tens of millions. Coupled with a keyboard to use when I need it and a base station it would replace my desktop and MacBook Pro needs for many things although I would still keep my MacBook for the larger screen...
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Well you can run freemium games 80% faster. I wonder if that includes spending your money 80% faster to play those "games"
 
Wiesenlooser said:
However the surface line is actually selling pretty well. Not iPad levels but good and increasingly so. ...In just a month or so microsoft will show the surface pro 4 family and well, lets say that if they improve on the surface pro 3 (which I don't doubt at all) it is hard to justify the ipad Pro if you want to do some serious work with your tablet.
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exactly. anecdotally of course, but everyone i know who was holding off on the surface pro for apple to enter the fray are more than disappointed - they're going to buy a surface pro. all that mattered to (i'd say) the majority of art/design/visual/musician types were hoping for was desktop class software for their portable tablet experience. who knew MS would get it so right and apple would get it so wrong (for an industry that helped apple become a viable company in the 90s to begin with). i predict surface sales to improve measurably after today's keynote.

sure, tell me that iOS is getting better and more powerful. until adobe CC and final cut/protools/etc, etc runs on it with ALL its capabilities i will retort: frankly, m'dear, i don't give a highfalutin' Damn.
 
In 2012 Apple had a big iPad cover patent that covers all that was revealed in today's keynote (the folding pattern, the keyboard, the data and power contact points, etc., and about twenty other innovations that didn't make this rev 1 release. In 2013, Apple licensed to Microsoft a portfolio of iOS design patents. You could look it up, perhaps on PatentlyApple.com or other web sites. The dates might be slightly off, but I didn't make it up.
 
Pilgrim1099 said:
Do you play with crayons or finger paint on the job?

I know what I'm talking about. You will NOT be able to use desktop class digital creative apps on the iPad pro. EVER. It's limited to use iOS.

Judging from your arrogance, you do not appear to have actual professional experience using a Wacom tablet at all.
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Thanks for judging me, - it is refreshing, especially because you seem to know me well...

We did more jobs using iPad and Procreate, than you might think. And yes, we do use the Cintiqs and Intuoses on a daily basis, but I am still very happy about the growing competition. Hopefully it brings Wacom to finally pop the heads out of their bottoms and finally innovate!
 
roosta said:
puzzled by the pencil's recharging format. why not have a lightning or mini usb port in it and have it charged by way of usb instead of leeching odd the iPad pro's battery. plus a skinny peripheral sticking out of an iPad held in by a somewhat flimsy connector could be prone to breakage.
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