It will trickle down to the rest; that's what always happens. But you'll probably have to wait till next year.Stylus support for iPad Pro only!?
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Apple Launching A9X-Based 12.9" iPad Pro in November for $799+
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As usual, apple waits until someone else takes the fall, learns from it, implements it better.
I wonder, how does the new stylus work?
If iPad Mini 4 had support for it I'd buy it in a heartbeat, both Mini and pencil.
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also, frankly, desktop apps at this point aren't made for touch.
maybe with the precision of a pencil - perhaps, I've seen some people use Wacoms instead of mouse.
Take any platform, any software vendor and look at how long it took for their touch-based application versions to reach feature parity with their desktop-based applications. Very few are even there now and they had many years since the original iPad came out. The iWork applications took several years and I am not sure they are 100% here yet. Took how long it took Apple to get Photos on iOS and Photos on Macs to be fully compatible (and there are still differences, eg, you cannot make folders in the iOS version for example).
We want these things to work, but taking a desktop app and making it fully touch-accessible without loosing features is extremely difficult and probably only possible if you start afresh on the desktop (like Apple did with Photos).
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I have no idea how anybody could have ever thought Apple would do a full 180 and develop a touch-enabled version of OS X to replace iOS on tablets. And nothing of this leaking out. You might as well have expected Windows Phone to overtake Android next year.
I feel like they missed a trick with this... if they'd have also announced versions of aperture, logic, and final cut to go along with the iPad pro, I think more people would really start to see this as a laptop replacement. Could really do with 256/512 storage options at the high end as well
Only applies if the tablet is incapable of running anything else.
MS have the edge on being able to run anything!
How many people use the desktop versions of those apps using only a touch screen?
Suck it Wacom! I'm so glad we finally have some option aside from those over-priced drawing tablets. I suspect that with the advent of the iPad Pro that more companies will make pro-level apps to take advantage of the new Pencil. I'm very excited about this. It will be mine!
I'm tired of Wacom's overpriced (and underwhelming) hardware! This is a huge step in the right direction! Wacom was just put on notice today.
RAM limitations likely are one aspect. But only a symptom of the code base of these apps being so large that trying to 'simply' compile them for ARM is probably a nightmare. And writing them from scratch, recreating all features is probably close to a nightmare as well. And finding a UI for all features that can be used on touch-only devices is a similarly colossal undertaking.
Apple has done exactly the opposite of a Surface clone. A Surface clone would mean adding a touch UI to OS X, Apple has done no such thing.
Already possible as long as you have a fast network connection. Just leave a suitable desktop server running on your Mac. There are over a dozen Remote Desktop and VNC apps in the App Store for the iPad. I imagine several will be updated for the Pro size in the next few months.
This should work well for everything except low latency gaming, where you might want to stick with native iOS apps instead of streaming your Mac desktop.
Anything that's not optimized for touch at all.
3rd party apps... experience is less than great.
And the iPad in itself is only a blown up iPod touch. That's why it has only sold 200+ million units.
It's runs in desktop and touch.
I do all my photoshop work using the Surface like a Wacom with full touch support.
Swap it over to desktop to do the programming in VS.
Plug in a USB keyboard, fire up reason and work on the music.
Pretty versatile.
Allow me to do that on the IPad with full blown software, not thinned out apps and I might be impressed.
People complaining that this doesn't run OSX just fundamentally don't understand Apple, it's history, and where it's going. The Surface is retarded, so is Windows, and Apple shouldn't be trying to emulate MS in any way shape or form.
Having said that, they need to allow mouse/pointer input across all iOS devices. Now.
Having said that, they need to allow mouse/pointer input across all iOS devices. Now.
I think a lot of you are missing the point of a device like this vs a Macbook. Creative apps particularly for music will benefit in a way that Macbooks can't. A touch interface will be far superior to modulating controls on say for example, a drum machine or synthesizer. For creative types, this device could be pretty huge. A bigger screen means more controls. I know quite a few people who are going to be in line to instantly buy this.
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Overpriced? Are you kidding me?
My Wacom tablet cost me about $399 from 2011 and it still works to this day. That's a lot cheaper than the iPad Pro.
However, if you're talking about Cintiqs, then that's a different story.
What exactly are you going to do with the iPad Pro and what app specifically?
You might want to take a closer look at the stylus video because I don't think it has palm rejection nor is there any specs for pressure sensitivity. Apple is hiding those specs again. Have they mentioned what happens if the Pencil nib wears out? Would you have to get a replacement or buy a new one completely?
I have a Surface Pro 3 (8GB RAM, i5 processor, 256GB SSD). It's a quality device for sure, but it has some significant downsides that the iPad Pro looks to do better.
It's heavy. It's not 7lbs, but it's not nearly a light as an iPad. Not something one can hold one-handed comfortably for any length of time.
Battery life. Ok for a laptop; about 4-5 hours with a bright screen. Lasts about 1/2 as long as my iPad at similar brightness.
Tablet/mobile apps. SP3 is great for full-on MS Office and other desktop apps, plus web browsing, but light/mobile apps are still seriously lacking. Pretty much everything else needs to be done in a web browser.
Finger-friendliness. Web browsing is ok, but Office isn't good without the keyboard/trackpad and a mouse. Same with the file manager. And forget trying to use Adobe Acrobat Pro. Doesn't even work correctly with the high-DPI screen (even on Win10).
These are all things the iPad Pro will start out with in spades.
There's still room for both devices IMHO.
It's heavy. It's not 7lbs, but it's not nearly a light as an iPad. Not something one can hold one-handed comfortably for any length of time.
Battery life. Ok for a laptop; about 4-5 hours with a bright screen. Lasts about 1/2 as long as my iPad at similar brightness.
Tablet/mobile apps. SP3 is great for full-on MS Office and other desktop apps, plus web browsing, but light/mobile apps are still seriously lacking. Pretty much everything else needs to be done in a web browser.
Finger-friendliness. Web browsing is ok, but Office isn't good without the keyboard/trackpad and a mouse. Same with the file manager. And forget trying to use Adobe Acrobat Pro. Doesn't even work correctly with the high-DPI screen (even on Win10).
These are all things the iPad Pro will start out with in spades.
There's still room for both devices IMHO.
lol that's awesome, well put. Wait I think windows RT was more advanced, at least it ran full office, could use a mouse and had a file system.