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It's not about whether someone can or can't afford it, it's about carrying around another device.
Not to mention, a lot of mobile devices have very limited port availability. Imagine if this budget Macbook only has 2 USB-C ports, like some other recent laptops. So, while you're charging, there's only 1 port free, whether for a drive or a mouse or a Yubikey, etc., and that means maybe buying and carrying around a USB hub along with everything else and hoping everything will play nice across it.
 
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Not to mention, a lot of mobile devices have very limited port availability. Imagine if this budget Macbook only has 2 USB-C ports, like some other recent laptops. So, while you're charging, there's only 1 port free, whether for a drive or a mouse or a Yubikey, etc., and that means maybe buying and carrying around a USB hub along with everything else and hoping everything will play nice across it.
I think you can't hope Apple to be reasonable in terms of number of ports, especially when we are talking about an entry level priced device
 
I'm sure we've all had situations where what we've wanted is more than what we need or can actually use. Better that you change your mind now while you're hopefully still within the store's exchange and return policy. Maybe at least go see if you can trade it back for a 13 inch Air and a refund of the difference? (Maybe actually sit in front of a 13 inch, first, to be sure.) Remember, we don't know yet what the new unannounced device's limitations are, so you may find an Air is the better product for you, regardless.
I’m trying to decide whether I want a larger screen in a surprisingly large package or a smaller one that’s not THAT small. A resurrected sub-kg 12” rMB with a larger screen in same-size chassis would be the perfect answer. They have 3.5 weeks to release it ;)

Technical limitations don’t bother me, this is a typewriter that (very) occasionally runs Photoshop. I only don’t like the idea of an iCloud computer. 16 GB RAM is practically overkill for my use case, though, so is the M4 CPU. A18 Pro with 8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage would satisfy my needs. I probably shouldn’t say that, I’m giving Tim Cook ideas…
 
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It's probably not a very popular idea, but I'd be fine with them dropping the camera entirely. Might make it an easier win in the educational market, actually, since there will be one less child safety issue for schools to deal with. If they offered a cheap external USB camera for those who want it, they could also make the same camera work with the next Apple TV, too, instead of the rumored plans to build one with it built-in.

It's funny because I was thinking the same thing - but for phones. A regular phone that has a "kid" version with no cameras would solve a lot of problems IMO.
 
12” is perfect. And so is 900 grams. I am personally not assuming this will be the form factor but I really really hope that it will be. There is nothing light or thin or even sexy about any of the current laptops Apple is offering imo..

I'm all for a 12" model being offered, but it makes no sense for the budget/entry level model for everyone & education to be that small.

12" is really niche in terms of what fits on screen and how enjoyable it is to use. It extremely skews towards portability/travel usages, which is not at all what an "all arounder" laptop should be targeted at.
 
I’m trying to decide whether I want a larger screen in a surprisingly large package or a smaller one that’s not THAT small. A resurrected sub-kg 12” rMB with a larger screen in same-size chassis would be the perfect answer. They have 3.5 weeks to release it ;)

Technical limitations don’t bother me, this is a typewriter that (very) occasionally runs Photoshop. I only don’t like the idea of an iCloud computer. 16 GB RAM is practically overkill for my use case, though, so is the M4 CPU. A18 Pro with 8 GB RAM and 128 GB storage would satisfy my needs. I probably shouldn’t say that, I’m giving Tim Cook ideas…
you can probably have this device in your dream
 
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The chip is readily available, no doubt, but not the logic board. Unless Apple can tweak the Ipad Mini one for Mac, otherwise a new one has to be designed and produced.

On the other hand, if they just keep on producing M2 / M3 MacBook Air and sell them at an entry price, no new R&D and production cost will incur
One of the great truths about manufacturing is cost savings through economies of scale. This is why things like air conditioning and power windows are standard on almost all vehicles today. It’s cheaper for automakers to include them on everything than on only some products. It’s the same with electronics. Continuing to produce M2 chips or even M3’s will cost more because they involve outdated - and different - processes. I suspect M2 chips are already out of production. But we’ll find out, won’t we?
 
I'm all for a 12" model being offered, but it makes no sense for the budget/entry level model for everyone & education to be that small.

12" is really niche in terms of what fits on screen and how enjoyable it is to use. It extremely skews towards portability/travel usages, which is not at all what an "all arounder" laptop should be targeted at.
No manufacturer has offered such a compact laptop since the 12-inch MacBook.
The MacBook was very popular, even though it was so expensive and underpowered.
That's why I'm sure that a MacBook with the form factor of the 2015 MacBook will be a big hit.
If they shrink the bezels of the old MacBook to a modern size, a 12.9-inch display will fit into the frame.
A new small MacBook weighing 900 grams slips easily into any school bag or briefcase. Or into any carry-on luggage.
Many users will do as I do and purchase such a device to complement their Mac Mini, Studio or iMac.
 
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No manufacturer has offered such a compact laptop since the 12-inch MacBook.
The MacBook was very popular, even though it was so expensive and underpowered.
That's why I'm sure that a MacBook with the form factor of the 2015 MacBook will be a big hit.
If they shrink the bezels of the old MacBook to a modern size, a 12.9-inch display will fit into the frame.
A new small MacBook weighing 900 grams slips easily into any school bag or briefcase. Or into any carry-on luggage.
Many users will do as I do and purchase such a device to complement their Mac Mini, Studio or iMac.
I just worry that too much focus on thin & light will result in something more expensive, or less likely to survive children.

Too many tradeoffs.
 
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The MacBook Air starts at €1099 in Belgium. You can get them just under a thousand euros with a student discount. [...] Offer it for €899 or - even better - €799.
That's the Apple MSRP in Europe at 1099. The M4 Airs already start at 800 from various european retailers. You can check prices on geizhals.eu which I use to get an idea of actual up-to-date pricing around western europe.
 
No manufacturer has offered such a compact laptop since the 12-inch MacBook.
The MacBook was very popular, even though it was so expensive and underpowered.
That's why I'm sure that a MacBook with the form factor of the 2015 MacBook will be a big hit.
If they shrink the bezels of the old MacBook to a modern size, a 12.9-inch display will fit into the frame.
A new small MacBook weighing 900 grams slips easily into any school bag or briefcase. Or into any carry-on luggage.
Many users will do as I do and purchase such a device to complement their Mac Mini, Studio or iMac.

This is all fine, but I don’t think you’re the target market for this product.

Making the sexiest, thinnest, lightest and least bezeled laptop is not at all what is needed for a budget or education offering.
 
iPhone/low end iPad chip + screen (=iphone/ipad) + keyboard/trackpad + special build of macOS.

Is that not exactly what this is?
No, this is a traditional Mac, based on keyboard and mouse, that provides a completely different experience compared to the iPad, which is touch-first. Using some iPhone components doesn’t make the Mac a different product.
 
Those folk who want to keep the precise iPad functionality of iPad OS can do that as that can be done quite easily via theming engines. For more advanced users who want a Mac OS on iPad, then it makes no sense to not support that as it would be cheaper in the long run for Apple. iPad users who need their simple, dumbed down interface can easily be supported by allowing real users to be productive.
I don’t consider the iPadOS main interface to be dumbed down. I think macOS on the iPad wouldn’t make any user more productive, regardless of how “advanced” he is. Desktop OS just don’t work well on tablets, it’s been tried already too many times. The “simple” iPad experience already unlocks very advanced use cases that you can’t achieve with a Mac, like in the 3D area, art…
 
I don’t consider the iPadOS main interface to be dumbed down. I think macOS on the iPad wouldn’t make any user more productive, regardless of how “advanced” he is. Desktop OS just don’t work well on tablets, it’s been tried already too many times. The “simple” iPad experience already unlocks very advanced use cases that you can’t achieve with a Mac, like in the 3D area, art…
iPadOS is no way close to productive even on a pure clerical perspective due to its messy file management and inability to open multiple documents on an OS level (not in app)
 
No, this is a traditional Mac, based on keyboard and mouse, that provides a completely different experience compared to the iPad, which is touch-first. Using some iPhone components doesn’t make the Mac a different product.
youre missing my point. if there is a new low cost laptop rubbing on A series chips coming, the only missing piece is this special macos software build.

so there would be even less of a reason why someone who -chose- to run it on their ipad would not be -allowed- to.
 
youre missing my point. if there is a new low cost laptop rubbing on A series chips coming, the only missing piece is this special macos software build.

so there would be even less of a reason why someone who -chose- to run it on their ipad would not be -allowed- to.
Because Apple is not an open source company. Whether or not to release the said build is entirely up to them. Users don't really have the choice to choose
 
Who is this device for whenever you can buy a m4 air with 16gb of ram on sale for $749? I just bought one yesterday in fact.
 
Because Apple is not an open source company. Whether or not to release the said build is entirely up to them. Users don't really have the choice to choose
still missing the point. if this product comes out, they will need to build and release the software. im not talking about open source.
 
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