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I will be contacting apple for a refund or replacement. Preferably a refund. I ended up ordering a Torro leather sleeve that I’ll be using instead of the apple sleeve. I really started to like the apple sleeve, but the quality of leather in general is steering me away especially for $130. The Torro was $38 and is a much better cut of leather.

Edit: @Apple_Robert are you having any issues using the Torro sleeve and your screen protector?

Edit: #2. I ended up cancelling my Torro sleeve order.
 
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I will be contacting apple for a refund or replacement. Preferably a refund. I ended up ordering a Torro leather sleeve that I’ll be using instead of the apple sleeve. I really started to like the apple sleeve, but the quality of leather in general is steering me away especially for $130. The Torro was $38 and is a much better cut of leather.

Edit: @Apple_Robert are you having any issues using the Torro sleeve and your screen protector?
No problems thus far. Granted, I haven't used it much since I got the Apple sleeve.
 
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The Apple sleeve is good apart for it being super tight in the start. After a few days it gets better. Just be careful if you have the 12 Pro Max with a glass protector as it may get lifted in the corners. I had the problem and I changed to a plastic screen protector and no problems now.

There is already. Way to answer calls with the phone inside the case. Just to to accessibility and set the phone to auto answer at your desired time. This way you don’t have to take your phone out of the sleeve.

I am sure Apple Will updated the software with more functions soon.
 
I'm back with some thoughts on my latest sleeve - this time the Lucrin "Classic Case".

Pleased with both sleeves, I feel like each has slight advtages over the other. The Lucrin is probably a better value though based on the price + shipping of the Hardgraft.

Any indication of where the Lucrin is made?

So, that tells me that the leather is actually two pieces of vinyl stitched together. Or, this is the cheapest leather know to man that resembles vinyl. I’ve also had leather products that have not torn this easily when dropped or abused since the fibers is what makes leather stronger than vinyl. The back of the sleeve feels similar to this years apple cases which do feel cheap and like plastic. I’m thinking the top panel of the sleeve is indeed leather while the back is the same material used on the regular leather cases. The front panel is much thicker and smells of leather while the back panel does not smell of leather and feels synthetic. I’ve attached a couple of pictures of the tear on the bottom of the sleeve. After the drop, there is damage done to my 12 where it landed right at the corner where the sleeve tore. It’s a scrape/gouge that isn’t to noticeable unless you really look for it.

Don't look too closely at the leather interiors in some cars, where only the seating surfaces are leather. Noted only in the fine print.
 
I'll ask this of you with the Lucrin case as I did those with the Apple Sleeve -- can an iPhone with a very thin case on the back still fit inside this sleeve? Or like the Apple Sleeve, it would be way too tight?

Just seeing what my options are for possible cases. Still would like a Apple Folio type for the Mini that would be of decent quality as well.
 
I'll ask this of you with the Lucrin case as I did those with the Apple Sleeve -- can an iPhone with a very thin case on the back still fit inside this sleeve? Or like the Apple Sleeve, it would be way too tight?

Just seeing what my options are for possible cases. Still would like a Apple Folio type for the Mini that would be of decent quality as well.
I don't know about Lucrin, I know for sure that fitBAG will make a custom made sleeve for you if you give them the dimensions of your case. Just email them and they will tell you exactly how to measure the case.

 
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I'll ask this of you with the Lucrin case as I did those with the Apple Sleeve -- can an iPhone with a very thin case on the back still fit inside this sleeve? Or like the Apple Sleeve, it would be way too tight?

Just seeing what my options are for possible cases. Still would like a Apple Folio type for the Mini that would be of decent quality as well.
I have the Lucrin sleeve. I checked to see if the phone with a Pitaka MagEZ case would fit. Nope. Not even close.
 
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For those with the Apple sleeve...not sure if this is an issue others are having but recently I’ve begun to notice the MagSafe isn’t working as it should...meaning my screen isn’t changing to the color of the case. The only way I’ve “fixed” this is to restart my phone, but that is annoying after a couple of times. Anyone else?
 
For those with the Apple sleeve...not sure if this is an issue others are having but recently I’ve begun to notice the MagSafe isn’t working as it should...meaning my screen isn’t changing to the color of the case. The only way I’ve “fixed” this is to restart my phone, but that is annoying after a couple of times. Anyone else?
I haven't experienced that issue. I don't see it as a problem because all the phone does is change color while in the sleeve. And the only part showing when it happens is the window. I see no need to restart your phone for a feature you can't make use of. It is really a gimmick and nothing more.
 
I haven't experienced that issue. I don't see it as a problem because all the phone does is change color while in the sleeve. And the only part showing when it happens is the window. I see no need to restart your phone for a feature you can't make use of. It is really a gimmick and nothing more.
Agree 100%
 
I haven't experienced that issue. I don't see it as a problem because all the phone does is change color while in the sleeve. And the only part showing when it happens is the window. I see no need to restart your phone for a feature you can't make use of. It is really a gimmick and nothing more.
Yep. I was delighted when that animation stopped working with my sleeve.
 
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The Lucrin cases are made in Switzerland. They’re very nice, well made, lovely leather, very good quality indeed.

The FitBag ones are also quite good, but not in the same league as the Lucrin

Good to know. One never knows in a global economy, and there are many brands that give the impression of Old World craftsmanship, yet in reality are just mass-produced in Asia.

I'll ask this of you with the Lucrin case as I did those with the Apple Sleeve -- can an iPhone with a very thin case on the back still fit inside this sleeve? Or like the Apple Sleeve, it would be way too tight?

Just seeing what my options are for possible cases. Still would like a Apple Folio type for the Mini that would be of decent quality as well.

The vast majority of sleeves are designed for naked devices. Rarely do they account for the additional thickness of even a thin case, and when they do, which is more common with iPads with keyboards, they do so with the OE Apple accessories in mind.

The only reliable solution is to order from a vendor that offers custom sizing, and provide measurements. I've done that on Etsy, and given the natural materials, it still required a little accelerated break-in with some shimming, but after that, fit like the proverbial glove.

Sheildon and Tucch folios are reasonably-priced, and quite well made considering. The company uses the former branding for their leather line, and the latter for vinyl. I've been using a Tucch on my XS since pretty much the start, and it shows few signs of wear, mostly on the inside lining at the fold. I actually have a nicer leather folio sitting on the sidelines, since I don't want to damage it during these times of more frequent sanitizing and wipedowns. Few worries with vinyl.

After using sleeves for many years, I find a detachable folio is the best of both worlds, but they're not common.
 
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Are any of you using a wireless charger with the phone in your sleeve (either MagSafe charger or third-party charger)?

I have a strange behaviour with my 12 mini and a Samsung wireless fast charger. If I put the phone on the charger without a sleeve then the phone charges properly to 100%. But if I put the phone in a sleeve (which is a very thin sleeve) then the phone charges only to 80% no matter how long I keep it on the charger.

Are any of you experiencing strange behaviours with wireless chargers with the phone in a sleeve?
 
Good to know. One never knows in a global economy, and there are many brands that give the impression of Old World craftsmanship, yet in reality are just mass-produced in Asia.



The vast majority of sleeves are designed for naked devices. Rarely do they account for the additional thickness of even a thin case, and when they do, which is more common with iPads with keyboards, they do so with the OE Apple accessories in mind.

The only reliable solution is to order from a vendor that offers custom sizing, and provide measurements. I've done that on Etsy, and given the natural materials, it still required a little accelerated break-in with some shimming, but after that, fit like the proverbial glove.

Sheildon and Tucch folios are reasonably-priced, and quite well made considering. The company uses the former branding for their leather line, and the latter for vinyl. I've been using a Tucch on my XS since pretty much the start, and it shows few signs of wear, mostly on the inside lining at the fold. I actually have a nicer leather folio sitting on the sidelines, since I don't want to damage it during these times of more frequent sanitizing and wipedowns. Few worries with vinyl.

After using sleeves for many years, I find a detachable folio is the best of both worlds, but they're not common.
I purchased a Tucch PU leather folio for the mini and it is very nice. They had nice packaging too and seems like they care about good customer experience. Very reasonably priced of course.
 
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