Smartphones are a mature market now. The use cases aren’t going to change. It’s not a growth market anymore, Apple needs to move forward which is exactly what they’re doing.
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Apple Likely to Make Vision Pro Lineup More Affordable in Two Ways
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I talked to the staff at my local Apple Store in November and and I asked about the AVP. She said they were doing about one to two demos a week, and it had been a while since they had sold one.
No one was looking at their AVP table, either, despite the store being pretty busy.
think about the billions that Tesla threw in to developing mainstream EVs ... and then re-think your answer ...
Apparently Cook and Apple senior management simply aren’t receiving the memo about the AVP and its future being DOA according to the forum Miss Cleo’s.
They should speak up in every article with a really good, original joke like “for all 100 people that bought one” and things of that nature.
That’ll be sure to get their attention by offering insightful, intelligent yet withering criticism that both Apple Management and those who like the product here in the forums will be sure to listen to. Oh wait…. 🤦♂️
They should speak up in every article with a really good, original joke like “for all 100 people that bought one” and things of that nature.
That’ll be sure to get their attention by offering insightful, intelligent yet withering criticism that both Apple Management and those who like the product here in the forums will be sure to listen to. Oh wait…. 🤦♂️
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…Apple’s recent successes in the ultrabook and tablet product categories without going into their continual successes with the iPhone immediately lessens your argument that “they all suck”.
In the prosumer space, Apple has entrenched favor by creative professionals and silicon valley often without an alternative for people to even consider instead (some of that intentful strategically with Apple’s well storied supply chain advantages)
For example I would love alternatives to the Pro Display XDR and Vision Pro, neither of which exists!
Let me know when there’s a serious alternative to the iPad Pro’ s Tandem OLED with 1600 peak nits, 1000 sustained nits Dolby Vision HDR capabilities as well.
I wouldn’t speak in absolutes about a company who sells in the volume Apple does while simultaneously having unprecedented and hard to beat advantages regularly
I made a follow up post that the lineup was starting to get a little fragmented under Jobs, between all the different iPods and the MacBook Air and stuff like that.
But I think this image sums it up-
If anything, you can make an argument that the Mac lineup is the most simple it’s ever been.
Unless it’s a super sharp clear display, who is watching movies on a headset like this rather than a 65”+ OLED screen or projector? Ive tried watching movies on the quest 3 and even being lighter it’s just not a great experience. I wonder if Apple just took the decision to launch the Vision Pro because they knew it would pay for itself and give them further knowledge of the manufacturing process and market.
Have you tried one?
Not for the blind, that's for certain. Have you tried one?
Can't really make an informed decision until you actually try it. How many people said "why would I need a portable computer?"... and now they are the norm.
Isn't that one of the Vision Pro's strengths already? That's been in the marketing since Day One. The screen is super sharp, and watching movies is a stellar, immersive experience.
But the device does need to be "tuned" to your eyeballs. Was the Quest tuned? If not, the image quality and experience would be sub-standard.
I bought a Meta Quest 3s during a Black Friday sale. It was cheap enough ($200) to just explore and I did have low expectations. My initial reaction and to those people I demoed it to, was astonishment. VR is amazing, but I found the lens and display quality of the inexpensive units makes it uncomfortable for extended use. And the resolution is not good enough for a full length movie experience. VR is a novelty until the quality improves to the point where a sub-$1000 headset with consistent realistic graphics is possible. But I have no doubt VR is going to be much bigger as the quality improves. Real 3D sporting events from the field or court, walk about travel experiences, classroom attendance, therapy, jury duty from your home and group meetings could become commonplace.
Give it a try before you come to any conclusions.
Give it a try before you come to any conclusions.
They can make it as affordable as they'd like/can, and it still won't sell well. It's not just a niche product because of the price, but a severely niche product IN GENERAL. I don't know a single person, including myself, who actually wants or would benefit from owning one of these.
It's cool, but that's not enough imo.
It's cool, but that's not enough imo.
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…The Quest 3 doesn’t even have HDR, let alone premium HDR to enjoy premium video content well (let alone create/work/review) them.
The Quest 3 is not as sharp as the Vision Pro among other flaws when it comes to consuming premium content.
Like the benefits and side-effects of the Pro Display XDR for all of their prosumer products over time since its release (Its 1600 peak nits, 1000 sustained nits Dolby Vision + HLG HDR screen tech), the Vision Pro has its strategic merit for Apple without also needing to have mainstream appeal.
This very site reported such things the past few months.
Well, when Apple sells the same phone for 6 years in a row of course it's easy to say that. Outside of the iPhone ecosystem however, lots has changed since the iPhone X.
It isn't the measure of every tech product but, based on the initial hype by Apple and by tech journalists and media, it seemed as though Apple was confident this would every bit as revolutionary as the iPhone. IMO, nearly everyone in charge at Apple is suffering from a collective overinflated corporate ego. We're continuing to see this with their next product speculated to be their version of a screen-based home hub. Frankly, we're continuing to see it in the fact that they think they can release buggy software year after year, not fix the bugs, and still act like Apple is the rock-solid-stable, It-Just-Works Apple of yore.
Shoot. You don’t see a niche 3500 product in the wild that people mostly use at home? Shocker
For what it is, the Apple Vision Pro is as fashionable as it can possibly be without being super compromised. It definitely doesn’t look cheap like my quest three
You’re just not going to see people wearing it like $100 pair of AirPods especially when it it’s primarily a home device
You wouldn’t buy a device where you can have unlimited screens, augment your reality and have a movie theater literally anywhere you sit? Ok
People rage commenting that they see no usefulness for a product like this is just strange. Acting like it’s a product that makes no sense is acting like a big screen tv makes no sense. I literally remember reading comments in the early 2000’s denouncing hdtv “I can see perfectly fine on my regular tv. The tv industry always trying to get more money out of us with high definition gimmicks!”
Consumers are so myopic
I use it with my mac too. But just curious why you want the usb hdmi input when the wireless input is already perfect with no lag at all?
That’s great and all, but a lot has changed inside the iPhone in the same time period. Externally they all look the same, but thats not a problem for most people because it goes in a case anyway.
Pure specs vs an experience are different design philosophies, so I’m not really sure us techies quite understand the actual target market’s mindset when it comes to buying phones.
These forums on the AVP remind me of why most people dont create anything.