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You can check. The genuine 4k are good however the 2k also come across well on a good when mastered well (accepting that there will likely be a mix of formats as well). This is my own personal opinion.

Mad Max for example, not 4K but slight difference between the two. Superb viewing but then put Planey Earth II on and it will blow your socks off on a good panel.

But as ever, the eye of the beholder is the final decider. And with HDR on 4K, mad max is eye popping good for a 2k. In my humble opinion.

Now, what would it be like streamed,that is where I buy or not buy. Netflix are more than acceptable, but I am getting bored of their selection and thinking low monthly fee might be cheap but buying a few will get me what I want.
 
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You can check. The genuine 4k are good however the 2k also come across well on a good when mastered well (accepting that there will likely be a mix of formats as well). This is my own personal opinion.

Mad Max for example, not 4K but slight difference between the two. Superb viewing but then put Planey Earth II on and it will blow your socks off on a good panel.

But as ever, the eye of the beholder is the final decider. And with HDR on 4K, mad max is eye popping good for a 2k. In my humble opinion.

Now, what would it be like streamed,that is where I buy or not buy. Netflix are more than acceptable, but I am getting bored of their selection and thinking low monthly fee might be cheap but buying a few will get me what I want.

People are going to believe what they want to believe. You will find those that keep repeating that there is no 4K content do not own a 4K TV and this somehow justifies it to themselves.
 
I own multiple 4K TVs. There isn't a ton of 4K content out there and there won't be until the studios start doing their DI's in 4k which will be years until it's affordable for them. Not to mention bandwidth. There's a desk cable isn't even pumping out full 1080 yet.


People are going to believe what they want to believe. You will find those that keep repeating that there is no 4K content do not own a 4K TV and this somehow justifies it to themselves.
 
I own multiple 4K TVs. There isn't a ton of 4K content out there and there won't be until the studios start doing their DI's in 4k which will be years until it's affordable for them. Not to mention bandwidth. There's a desk cable isn't even pumping out full 1080 yet.

Nearly all of Netflix originals are 4K.

VUDU itself has well over 100 UHD films, if not more. Many also available via codes inside 4k Blu-rays.

The content is there, just not a ton of it.
 
And yet, none of that matters when the DI's of those films are finished in 2K.

Even most 4K Blu-Rays are actually 2K upscaled.


Nearly all of Netflix originals are 4K.

VUDU itself has well over 100 UHD films, if not more. Many also available via codes inside 4k Blu-rays.

The content is there, just not a ton of it.
 
I hope the amount picks up somewhat. I have read somewhere, several somewheres that 4k TV sales are very much up compared to HD take-up, wonder how many manufacturers have forced this.

But then many were buying 720 sets not knowing the difference, I did overhear one sensible wife ask the husband why they wanted HD (1987 or so). Husband eyes were like a pirates clapped on treasure when looking at the TV in the show room. I knew exactly what was going through his mind.

Technical details? Nope.
Transmission parameters and codecs to get the 1080i to this 720 set then further compressed? Nope.

It was "Shiny". (say it in a pirate accent and you get the drift, add a arrrr after for better effect)

No idea why (technical). He could boast to his mates down the pub.
 
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And yet, none of that matters when the DI's of those films are finished in 2K.

Even most 4K Blu-Rays are actually 2K upscaled.

You act as though the 2K doesn't provided greater resolution than 1080p. Both are upscaled on a 4K set. The 1080p is a 4:1 upscale the 2K 2:1. Not to mention they are mastered in 4K, whereas standard 1080p material is just upscaled by the 4K TV scaling engine, with various degrees of success depending on the manufacturer. So it's not like the consumer isn't getting something over standard 1080p material from an original 2K source.

Add to that, the mastered 4K material can have HDR coded into it, whether originally shot that way, or digitally added after the fact. HDR is a game changer for most people who love watching cinematic programming.

Then add to that more and more live sports event are starting to broadcast in 4K.
 
I didn't say there isn't a quality bump even at 2K upscaled. I'm just saying at this point it's a lot of marketing speak and not alot of content.

However I do agree with you on HDR.


You act as though the 2K doesn't provided greater resolution than 1080p. Both are upscaled on a 4K set. The 1080p is a 4:1 upscale the 2K 2:1. Not to mention they are mastered in 4K, whereas standard 1080p material is just upscaled by the 4K TV scaling engine, with various degrees of success depending on the manufacturer. So it's not like the consumer isn't getting something over standard 1080p material from an original 2K source.

Add to that, the mastered 4K material can have HDR coded into it, whether originally shot that way, or digitally added after the fact. HDR is a game changer for most people who love watching cinematic programming.

Then add to that more and more live sports event are starting to broadcast in 4K.
 
Add to that, the mastered 4K material can have HDR coded into it, whether originally shot that way, or digitally added after the fact. HDR is a game changer for most people who love watching cinematic programming.
I absolutely second that statement!
4K is fancy, but not that dramatic leap in PQ (it stands for Picture Quality here, not Perceptual Quantizer) as that from SD to HD was.
I've watched both Mad Max and Passengers side-by side from BD and UHD BD and while Mad Max does not have much better detail (while upconverted from 2K DI), the Passenger shows a real difference. It's scenes are CGI for most parts anyway.
But the day-and-night difference between HDR and SDR rendering makes watching even the upscaled Mad Max just so much more enjoyable.
As a matter of fact, HDR can be mastered into any resolution, but H.265/HEVC codec is a must.

HDR is the future of visual entertainment, that is for sure.

PS here is also a nice site to check the background of UHD offerings: http://realorfake4k.com/

PPS For me personally, just the ability to pick up HEVC-encoded videos into my iTunes library is reason enough to pick up the new aTV. UHD and HDR support are just cherries on the cake. Unclear support for modern audio formats is a bit disappointing.
 
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