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I just bought a Philips 4K Bluray player.....I compared the same exact Bluray scenes from Bourne Idenity with my 5 year old SonyBluray and the 4K Bluray...the Philips was NOT as good as the old Sony.....this 4K is a fraud...unless you have a very special tv and a connection for two cables. I am sending the Philips back....a complete fraud and it had NO ability to steam anything.

Was it a 4k bluray vs a regular bluray or just the same disk in a different machine? Do you have a 4k TV? How big is the TV? Does the 4k player do upscaling?

Such vitriol for so little information.
 
And you don't understand the prices listed in Wal-Mart.

If they are choosing the $500 TV, they ARE getting a 4K TV.
So you just made my point because they are actually buying the $300 1080p TVs at Walmart. It's always about price for the majority of TV shoppers, not future proof standards and features.
 
I have ~140 movies purchased on iTunes, I don't think I would pay again for any movie I already own to have it on 4K. However moving forward I would definitely pay a bit more if that's what it takes to get the 4K copy.

I would probably rebuy a handful of movies on 4K though like Mad Max.
 
phased out, only when streaming can match both the audio and video of physical media. I still cannot do streaming simply because the audio. Sure video is getting better, but compression is still very noticeable in night scenes.


True, but I think that's very possible in the future. Streaming is constantly improving.

Even now, the physical media sections in retail stores has a smaller footprint. The days of the Blockbuster have given way to Redbox kiosk......There are now multiple options for "cord cutters" in terms of streaming all their cable & broadcast viewing. Streaming is growing & (as we see with 4K) it's improving.

And for whatever reason, let's say, hypothetically, a new superior physical media format emerges, that catches on, most would probably upgrade / replace whatever current collection they have.

I agree that the quality of physical media is better, I'm just saying saying that I don't necessarily agree with the notion that if someone purchases a physical disc, they will "have & use / view that forever".....(because many times that is the argument against digital.....that it might not be available "forever").

I don't think anyone will be using the same format they are using now 15 years down the road.
 
To be honest the convenience of Apple TVs along with iTunes movies/tv shows are either for the "film buff" whom has a legally purchased library of hundreds of films/tv shows or the wealthy. It doesn't get any more convenient to watch latest releases in HD on demand either buying or renting. It just costs a sh*tload of money. I don't believe Apple will ever have a movie subscription service. They make enough from purchases and rentals as is. As to whether they will make you double dip for 4K/4K HDR: OF COURSE!!! Even SD is a separate purchase from HD. Will WB or Universal give you a 4K Bluray if you send back your regular Bluray? NO! Sometimes they offer you a discount like $10 with proof of purchase when the tech is new like they did for Bluray a decade ago.
 
And you don't understand the prices listed in Wal-Mart.

If they are choosing the $500 TV, they ARE getting a 4K TV.

If you can even find a 1080p TV. Best Buy has so few in stock, even if someone wants to buy a 1080p TV there may be none available, and the customer will get up-sold on a 4K set because they want to take home something. Meanwhile the 4K TVs are flying out of the stores every weekend on sales.
 
Definitely picking up a 4K Apple TV! Can't wait to watch Titanic and Skyfall in 4K!
Skyfall can't be 4K due to the fact that it was shot in 2.8K on the ARRI Alexa. At best they maybe were able to shoot at 3.2K, but I can't remember if that was an option at the time they made Skyfall. So ultimately Skyfall would have to be upscaled to reach the UHD 4K standard.
UHD = 3840x2160
4K = 4096x2160
 
That was a whole other deal. You paid to remove DRM as the 128bit songs had DRM in them.

Still, you would think that since you already purchased them, Apple would've let you "upgrade" for free. I just don't see it happening for movies either. At least not from Apple.
 
Skyfall can't be 4K due to the fact that it was shot in 2.8K on the ARRI Alexa. At best they maybe were able to shoot at 3.2K, but I can't remember if that was an option at the time they made Skyfall. So ultimately Skyfall would have to be upscaled to reach the UHD 4K standard.
UHD = 3840x2160
4K = 4096x2160
The key to 4K adoption will be upscaling. The new Sony sets have an amazing upscale engine. If Apple is smart they'll put a fantastic upscaler in the ATV so it will look amazing on any set it's connected to. Still, unless there's a bad upscale engine at work, a higher res source is going to look better than not, on a 4K set.
 
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Skyfall can't be 4K due to the fact that it was shot in 2.8K on the ARRI Alexa. At best they maybe were able to shoot at 3.2K, but I can't remember if that was an option at the time they made Skyfall. So ultimately Skyfall would have to be upscaled to reach the UHD 4K standard.
UHD = 3840x2160
4K = 4096x2160

That is how a lot of current 4K movies are. 4K is more the the term people use, but it really should be UHD.
 
It's not way too expensive. It's the cost of buying...not renting, the movie. It cost as much as going into the store and buying it on blu-ray.

Yeah, sorry, I didn’t mean to sound rude. It’s something I actually would love to do but as I say, I always find it too expensive. When you compare to the likes of Netflix. I know you don’t “own” it on Netflix.

It’s something I’m going to really look into. At the moment I spend god knows how much on Steelbooks but am running out of space! Getting my iTunes collection going seems the way forward.
 
Yeah, sorry, I didn’t mean to sound rude. It’s something I actually would love to do but as I say, I always find it too expensive. When you compare to the likes of Netflix. I know you don’t “own” it on Netflix.

It’s something I’m going to really look into. At the moment I spend god knows how much on Steelbooks but am running out of space! Getting my iTunes collection going seems the way forward.

I do a combination of all of them. I buy movies that I love, and movies the kids love so they always have them available on their mobile devices. I also buy older or great classic movies at reduced cost off amazon etc and then rip them to iTunes. Kind of the best of both worlds. Now if my apple tv could see my movies also when I do a voice search instead of going straight to the iTunes buy rent option, all would be great. And yes, I have netflix and hulu (*cough family share), and hbo go.
 
I do a combination of all of them. I buy movies that I love, and movies the kids love so they always have them available on their mobile devices. I also buy older or great classic movies at reduced cost off amazon etc and then rip them to iTunes. Kind of the best of both worlds. Now if my apple tv could see my movies also when I do a voice search instead of going straight to the iTunes buy rent option, all would be great. And yes, I have netflix and hulu (*cough family share), and hbo go.

I aways seem to buy movies (physical media b/c it comes with a UV code), but I never go to the theaters so I wait for it on Blu-ray. It ends up being cheaper to own the movie than for two people to see it. If I rent, I usually redbox because it is 1/3 the price of renting a new release from a streaming service in HD and way cheaper than the $9.99 to rent a UHD movie.
 
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I aways seem to buy movies (physical media b/c it comes with a UV code), but I never go to the theaters so I wait for it on Blu-ray. It ends up being cheaper to own the movie than for two people to see it. If I rent, I usually redbox because it is 1/3 the price of renting a new release from a streaming service in HD and way cheaper than the $9.99 to rent a UHD movie.

That's where I get some of the my digital codes.
 
I aways seem to buy movies (physical media b/c it comes with a UV code), but I never go to the theaters so I wait for it on Blu-ray. It ends up being cheaper to own the movie than for two people to see it. If I rent, I usually redbox because it is 1/3 the price of renting a new release from a streaming service in HD and way cheaper than the $9.99 to rent a UHD movie.

Redbox is a must have too.
 
Except most of those movies were filmed in 2K and unconverted lolol

Which hole have you been keeping your head in.

There is so much 4k content around. You could have done a Google search before posting but i did it for you.

https://www.digitaltrends.com/home-theater/where-and-how-to-watch-4k-uhd-content/
Some of us have been streaming 4K even before HDR became available and now we have Dolby Vision as well.
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Wait until Apple start supporting 4K and the fanboys will be treating it like they are the first.
 
Comcast, Verizon Fios and TWC all have data caps. They account for 90% of the country.

My ISP doesn’t have data caps. In fact, I can’t recall the last time I had an ISP that did. It’s been many, many years (probably back into the mid 90’s or even earlier).
 
Why are you comparing the two? One is a subscription service where you are left o the whims of Netflix in what movies they have when. The other is a platform to buy ,lives the moment they're released.

I love Netflix. ITunes is way too expensive.
 
Comcast, Verizon Fios and TWC all have data caps. They account for 90% of the country.

TWC was bought by Charter, renamed Spectrum and does not have caps... at least not yet. They agreed to no caps as part of the TWC merger. There was a time commitment with it, but I don't recall what it was.

Except that most 4K blu rays you're buying were finished in 2k and upconverted so you could pay a premium lol

I wouldn't say most. Closer to half are not really 4K transfers. Here is a good site that lists real 4K transfers.

http://4kblurays.com
 
That site lists Batman V Superman as real 4K, yet it was scanned at 2K.


TWC was bought by Charter, renamed Spectrum and does not have caps... at least not yet. They agreed to no caps as part of the TWC merger. There was a time commitment with it, but I don't recall what it was.



I wouldn't say most. Closer to half are not really 4K transfers. Here is a good site that lists real 4K transfers.

http://4kblurays.com
 
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