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This is dumb. If you accept the potential risks of getting 3rd party parts/repairs, then you should be allowed to.

Years ago I replaced the battery in my fathers iPhone 3GS. Cost a mere 30$ for the battery and the toolkit, took half an hour to replace and that phone worked for another 3 years before he replaced it, and all I did was read a tutorial. Its not that hard to get a good repair job by a 3rd party using 3rd party components.
 
Using unauthorised parts like this provides an outlet for ‘chop shops’ who deal in parts from thousands of stolen iPhones. Apple should make replacement parts readily available to stop the lucrative business of selling parts from stolen phones.
 
I can get my car fixed wherever i want after warranty.

Hell I can even get my own damn body parts fixed where I choose to!

Why should this be any different.

Because for some of us, it's more important that Apple gets every possible dollar- even at our own expense- than anything else. Why? Because we know that's what Apple wants. And whatever Apple wants, some of us want that too.

Change this story slugging in Samsung in place of Apple and I would bet pretty large that there will be a near-unanimous chorus tagging Samsung as big corporate bully here. But it's Apple, so the other guy- whoever it is, for whatever it may be- MUST BE WRONG.

I suspect if God himself came down, healed the sick, raised the dead, delivered world peace and prosperity for everyone so that no one could possibly question that it is God... but then said that if He were human He would favor Windows over macOS or Android over iOS, a bunch of this crowd would turn on Him, proclaiming false god and similar. Even when their long-dead relative brought back to life questions their turn offering themselves as extraordinarily tangible proof, some would probably spin it as "you obviously weren't really dead... the real God could only like Apple products."

Thus the nature of the fandom.

All ;)
 
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Wow! How big is Henrik's shop? Should be pretty big to warrant Apple trying to take him out

Even in the Norwegian market it is not a big company. One has to think Apple was aiming to stomp on a small fry, and rack up a precedent that it could use elsewhere.

Apple must cream off a lot of money in Norway. They dont bother to have shops here - the sell via third part retail partners. They charge huge prices on top of what they charge in the US, they release products later than in other markets - and they dont offer the full type of Apple Care that you can get in the US. And their authorised third party retailers provide a mediocre service in which if you claim warranty covers your problem, and they determine it is not, they will still charge you money for the claim even if they dont fix it.

Which BTW is why there is a booming market in Norway for non-warranty third party repair of Apple devices!
 
The court’s rationale:

"Huseby is largely dependent on being able to import screens with covered up Apple logos to be able to operate in the market as a non-authorized iPhone repair technician."

So, he depends on counterfeit parts to operate his business as a non-authorized repair guy.

Boo-hoo.

At least I know which shop never to go to in the unlikely event I happen to be in Norway with iPhone troubles.

Let's hope u never come to Norway.
 
Obviously their phone is already damaged, so I’d say nothing to lose. Props to this guy.

Apple is not making magic, tons of people are able to fix Apple's gadgets, whether the company develops practices to make it harder to repair seems to make sense when you have more money than brains, of course in a free country one should be able to support whichever they consider.

So if my old iPhone with a broken screen, I want to use as an mp3 player and I need to fix a screen. You want to pay big buck for Apple or throw it away?
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I changed my battery on my iPhone 6 for $24 (including tools) DIY. Apple is $75, I am pretty sure the repair guy working for Apple is not making $50 an hour.

Yeah...like those people who take their cars to independent mechanics instead of dealerships...such a crazy idea.
When I said shoddy guy I wasn’t implying everyone is shoddy.
 
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Apple has worked with ICE and the Department of Homeland Security to seize counterfeit parts and raid independent iPhone repair shops.

ICE and Homeland Security are raiding iPhone repair shops? Seriously? What a waste of tax payer money and resources.
 
Counterfeit, genuine, inauthentic, refurbished? Which is it? There's something missing from this story, and if found, would probably explain why exactly Apple thought they had a case.

Basically, Apple is claiming that the parts are counterfeit. But it’s just recycled Apple parts being reused.

If I take two car doors that are both damaged, and make one Good door from them, and sell that door at a discount, that doesn’t make my reassembled door a counterfeit.

In the automotive world, those parts are sold as OEM replacement parts. They are just sold cheaper and labeled as refurbished, repaired, or used.

Saying that a replacement part is counterfeit because Apple didn’t refurbish it and sell it for a higher price is ridiculous. It is still an Apple part, and legally is the same thing. It is an Apple part that was repaired by someone other than Apple. And as long as you don’t claim it was repaired by Apple, there isn’t a legal reason to complain.

Even if Apple’s original stampings remain, there is nothing wrong with that.

If your iMac breaks and you repair it with parts salvaged from another dead iMac, are you supposed to scrape off or permanently cover every Apple logo and stamping both inside and outside??? Or is that computer still an Apple iMac?

Component parts are not much different. If an Apple part dies because of faulty capacitors, and I repair said part with functioning capacitors I still haven’t broken any laws.

Even if I later sell that board with the original Apple stampings left in place.

I can even sell it as an Apple board.

I just cannot say that Apple performed the repairs.

This is the test that Apple will eventually find themselves losing. That’s why they are using electronic anti tampering methods to block repairs.

Ultimately it comes down to them wanting to force the consumer to overpay for any repairs. And in reality, it’s also doing so at the cost of generating more ewaste from parts that will have to be trashed because Apple won’t let you reuse them because of anti tampering mechanisms.
 
When I said shoddy guy I wasn’t implying everyone is shoddy.
Seems like the implication was a generalized one in the context of anyone that isn't deemed as authorized by Apple.

As far as saying that not everyone is shoddy, well, that's petty much the case with essentially anything in life basically ever, which is kind of neither there or here.
 
Anyone who gets their device repaired unofficially is taking the risk of damaging their phone. That’s their choice. If they go to a shoddy guy to save a few bucks then that’s their fault.

2 points.

You're arguing against your right to have a choice, and for there to be a healthy market, over who repairs your electronic devices?

Furthermore, I strongly suspect the 'shoddy guy' that's broken / degraded the performance of more i-devices than any other entity ever is Apple itself.
 
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Norwegian customs officials seized iPhone 6 and 6s replacement screens that were addressed to him and discovered they were counterfeit.
I’m no lawyer, but why didn’t Apple lawyers simply go from this angle? The ones who caught it were Norwegian customs. Couldn’t Apple just pointed out that the plaintiff was importing counterfeit goods?
 
Apple trying to bully their way as usual. Pathetic. All they have to do is void the warranty on any device that fails due to a 3rd party repair. Not that complicated. But instead, their greed is trying to force people to go through Apple for all repairs.
Think about why they'd want that OTHER than the obvious financial gain (which in the grand scheme, is relatively small for Apple).
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“100 percent compatible and completely identical”
You should base an argument on something that’s probably not true. (Such an argument is unsound). I doubt Apple is making a pile of cash in repairs. On the other hand, it damages their image an an Apple device fails, and nobody will be reporting that some ****** put bad parts inside of it in order to save himself money.
And we have a winner. FINALLY someone who can think critically. Apple is protecting their brand, worth far more than any money they make on silly repairs.
 
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"protect our brand" is not just a term that one selectively waves around in court. Its a mindset.

Norway is a very profitable and loyal market for Apple. If they actually wanted to protect their brand, they'd improve the speed and cost of the authorised repair service on offer for those customers in the Norwegian market.
 
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Talk about being overbearing.

Apple wants to control your wallet even after your buy the iPhone.

The replacement displays don't have Apple logos. No wonder Apple lost this lawsuit.

Enough with the scare tactics. Yes, we know if we choose to use "unofficial" or non-OEM parts, it could mean the devastation of planet Earth. Let us do that.

Although I choose to use genuine Apple replacement parts, obtained through official channels, with the work done at an authorized Apple repair shop, I totally agree with your view.
 
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Way to go Henrik in Norway!

I‘m a die-hard Apple user since 1988 and also stock holder (yes, more than one).

I was send away (like a little bad naughty boy) from Apple Store in Hamburg Germany when wanting them to replace my battery in an iPhone 6s, because they could see it had once been opened by an unauthorised repair shop (in Denmark BTW).

Yes, true, I had damaged my iPhone’s screen and wanted immediate replacement (which Apple could not provide) and in this connection I also asked repair shop to replace the battery.

Now I wanted to have a “real” battery again (authorized by Apple) and pay for it of course - but after waiting 3 hours in the Genius Bar I was send home with mission unaccomplished because Apple employees are not allow to replace anything in a device which has been opened by unauthorised repair shops ...

I could then drive back 170 kms again to where I live (and where we don’t have an Apple store with instant repair option).

IMHO this is very bad service from Apple - they should re-think their politics in this matter!
 
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Norway is an outstanding country who will not let fat corps like the fruit oppress any consumer's right to choose whether to repair or not or where to repair, their purchased devices. While in America some admire the fruit's "work ethics", some other countries stand by their people.

I can attest this for Norway. Anyway, I have stopped buying Apple products years ago since it doesn't make sense to buy or own outside of USA (lame pricing, placing, and support, and good luck finding an "authorised" Apple service center when/where you need it). Also, too USA/NSA/Microsoft style practices for my likings, trying to bully everyone, including users, customers and developers. Talk about 1984 ...
 
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Seems like the implication was a generalized one in the context of anyone that isn't deemed as authorized by Apple.

As far as saying that not everyone is shoddy, well, that's petty much the case with essentially anything in life basically ever, which is kind of neither there or here.
No. I was saying we should have a right and when someone goes to someone they shouldn’t then it’s their fault.
 
No. I was saying we should have a right and when someone goes to someone they shouldn’t then it’s their fault.
That's fine, but in circumstances like this it seems that the definition of "someone they shouldn't" is anyone but Apple basicall.
 
Think about why they'd want that OTHER than the obvious financial gain (which in the grand scheme, is relatively small for Apple).
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And we have a winner. FINALLY someone who can think critically. Apple is protecting their brand, worth far more than any money they make on silly repairs.

Think about what you said. If Apple (the one with $250+ billion in the bank) wanted people to use them for repairs they just need to be price competitive. Yet here they are charging obscene fees for basic repairs.
 
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"Badly repaired".. interesting, is that a new concept Apple convinced you about? I wonder how the world managed to repair stuff before Apple.. maybe people used their brains.. who knows.
So you sleepy bears coming out of hibernation in that frozen north a bit on the grumpy side hey? :D
 
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I can get my car fixed wherever i want after warranty.

Hell I can even get my own damn body parts fixed where I choose to!

Why should this be any different.


Why not the same thing about Apps? iOS Apps have been downloaded from a signed/approved certificate. MacOS is shortly going that route too.

I don't see Apple saying customers cant get their devices fixed by 3rd parties, however how these 3rd parties are representing the parts they are sourcing. If a user gets their devices fixed at an authorized or non-authorized provider and looks to apple to support, it will depend on the source. Now if the customer does not any better like others have said it provides a bad user experience. and apple is protecting their ecosystem, again I dont see anything wrong with that nor are these anywhere equivalent to body parts. You definitely want to see a professional on that front.
 
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