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Obviously their phone is already damaged, so I’d say nothing to lose. Props to this guy.

They have a lot to lose. If your phone is damaged, take it to an Apple Store, or to an authorized repair facility. If you don't, you risk voiding your warranty on that expensive piece of hardware, which is not nothin'.
 
They have a lot to lose. If your phone is damaged, take it to an Apple Store, or to an authorized repair facility. If you don't, you risk voiding your warranty on that expensive piece of hardware, which is not nothin'.
And what warranty do you speak of after Apple Care expires or you bought it from someone else? I am so very tired of Apple apologists posting on this topic. Don’t you get it? Apple is pushing a monopoly on repairs for their increasingly unrepairable products. This should be illegal and is illegal in many other industries.

Apple does nothing special during repairs. I remember when I had them install a replacement battery in my 2009 MacBook Pro, they offered me a “bargain” price of only $200 plus tax. Literally job is remove 10 case screws and three battery screws. Really? You guys think this is a job any bone head with a screwdriver cannot do? Of course Apple has made process much more difficult with new designs... because it is better to glue in everything rather than use 3 screws.

Apple seems to intentionally design products that are hard to repair. Then they establish monopoly on repairs and set repair cost so high that choice to just buy new is best option. That is their goal.
 
Apple trying to bully their way as usual. Pathetic. All they have to do is void the warranty on any device that fails due to a 3rd party repair. Not that complicated. But instead, their greed is trying to force people to go through Apple for all repairs.

I gather that what they worry about is that if someone puts a cheap knockoff screen on their iPhone... and other people see it and don't know it's a poor quality counterfeit... they might incorrectly think it's Apple that has poor quality. Especially in an age where people start posting photos if this "poor quality apple screens."

Lets not be so quick to rush to the Apple is greedy conclusion.
 
Coming up next, impossible to repair iphones. To save space or some other excuse.
 
And what warranty do you speak of after Apple Care expires or you bought it from someone else? I am so very tired of Apple apologists posting on this topic. Don’t you get it? Apple is pushing a monopoly on repairs for their increasingly unrepairable products. This should be illegal and is illegal in many other industries.

Apple does nothing special during repairs. I remember when I had them install a replacement battery in my 2009 MacBook Pro, they offered me a “bargain” price of only $200 plus tax. Literally job is remove 10 case screws and three battery screws. Really? You guys think this is a job any bone head with a screwdriver cannot do? Of course Apple has made process much more difficult with new designs... because it is better to glue in everything rather than use 3 screws.

Apple seems to intentionally design products that are hard to repair. Then they establish monopoly on repairs and set repair cost so high that choice to just buy new is best option. That is their goal.
I remember when I replaced the keyboard in friend's 2009 unibody that suffered water damage. Apple "geniuses" insisted it couldn't be done. Apparently they treat the whole upper body as a single part. The price was outrageous, so I found a new keyboard on ebay for €20 and replaced it. Can't say it was fun or easy (had to buy a new screwdriver for those tiny screws), but it took me like two hours and the laptop worked again, and works to this day.

Total cost? €20 + screwdriver.
Apple price? About €300 for the part itself IIRC.
 
Anyone who gets their device repaired unofficially is taking the risk of damaging their phone. That’s their choice. If they go to a shoddy guy to save a few bucks then that’s their fault.

Edit: I mean that if you choose to repair elsewhere than Apple and you go to someone shoddy that’s your fault. Not that everyone that isn’t Apple is shoddy.

Absolutely.

In Norway this doesn’t sound like a case Apple can win in an American way. You can get customs to block counterfeit parts, but you’re not going to get a big financial judgement against an individual. The expectation is you know what you’re getting into when you walk into a screen repair shop of that type. By law you have up to 5 years of warranty for devices bought in Norway so only accidental, out-of-warranty damage of this type would be repaired in this type of shop
 
I gather that what they worry about is that if someone puts a cheap knockoff screen on their iPhone... and other people see it and don't know it's a poor quality counterfeit... they might incorrectly think it's Apple that has poor quality. Especially in an age where people start posting photos if this "poor quality apple screens."

Lets not be so quick to rush to the Apple is greedy conclusion.

Here’s the thing, just because I buy Apples products, doesn’t mean I give a ... about their image. As an owner, I should be allowed to replace broken parts with a whom ever I choose to do business with.

Right now a screen replacement for my X in my area costs $229 and has a 10day wait with Apple. If a 3rd party would do it for $100 and the next day I should have he option of taking that offer. Personally I wouldn’t use 3rd party, but the choice should be up to the device owner, not device manufacturer!
 
I remember when I replaced the keyboard in friend's 2009 unibody that suffered water damage. Apple "geniuses" insisted it couldn't be done. Apparently they treat the whole upper body as a single part. The price was outrageous, so I found a new keyboard on ebay for €20 and replaced it. Can't say it was fun or easy (had to buy a new screwdriver for those tiny screws), but it took me like two hours and the laptop worked again, and works to this day.

Total cost? €20 + screwdriver.
Apple price? About €300 for the part itself IIRC.
Yeah, for keyboard repair Apple replaces the entire top case. For most other manufacturers job is as simple as pop out keyboard and pop in new keyboard.
 
Think about what you said. If Apple (the one with $250+ billion in the bank) wanted people to use them for repairs they just need to be price competitive. Yet here they are charging obscene fees for basic repairs.
As if you understand their pricing model. You are not qualified to say it's "too expensive" and be objectively correct. Your opinion and speculation, nothing more.
 
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Anyone who gets their device repaired unofficially is taking the risk of damaging their phone. That’s their choice. If they go to a shoddy guy to save a few bucks then that’s their fault.

Edit: I mean that if you choose to repair elsewhere than Apple and you go to someone shoddy that’s your fault. Not that everyone that isn’t Apple is shoddy.[/QUOT

I work at a shop that used to be apple authorized and have an apple store up the street from the shop. Trust me they want to control all repairs simple fixes we used to do before we became apple authorized we had to stop because of apple.
For example if you ever brake your lens for your camera its a simple fix a 3 pack of apple lens go for $10 online all you need to do is basically stick it back in place and it will stick back on simple fix right well not if you go to apple they don't do those fixes and you are required to pay for a replacement phone if under warranty at a cheaper cost $300-551 depending on phone but why do you need to spend all that when the parts cost $3 apple can easily fix it but why fix something that cost $1 when you can make $300-551 and the whole batterry issue we fixed hundreds of phones and still had the same issue its not the batterry if the software is messing up the phone putting a new batterry wont fix anything
 

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They have a lot to lose. If your phone is damaged, take it to an Apple Store, or to an authorized repair facility. If you don't, you risk voiding your warranty on that expensive piece of hardware, which is not nothin'.

If I dropped my phone and screen cracked. I don’t get warranty coverage, unless I shell out other 100 dollars for Apple Care Plus. What do I loss? I am not going to spend 300 dollars for screen replacement where I can get down for one third of price.
 
Apple may have lost, but what's interesting is that while it may look good for other repairers looking in on this case, it may not always apply. Therefore, I would be celebrating thinking elsewhere in the world they can get off scott-free because this guy had done it.

Plus, its probably a slight inconvenience getting TouchID re-validated at an Apple store, but the inconvenience is worth it if you dpn't need to *pay* a hefty price for screen replacement from APple themselves.
 
Apple may have lost, but what's interesting is that while it may look good for other repairers looking in on this case, it may not always apply. Therefore, I would be celebrating thinking elsewhere in the world they can get off scott-free because this guy had done it.

Plus, its probably a slight inconvenience getting TouchID re-validated at an Apple store, but the inconvenience is worth it if you dpn't need to *pay* a hefty price for screen replacement from APple themselves.

Meh....I don’t care about TouchID... I can live without it, just typing password anyway. My iPad with first generation TouchID sensor isn’t that accurate anyway. I would rather get screen replacement done cheaper than paying Apple big bucks for that.
 
Now the notch in the iPhone X makes perfect sense because it makes it virtually impossible to find an inexpensive screen replacement out of warranty. And, even if you got it out of another official iPhone X you get penalized with non-working ambient light sensor.
 
Wondering if Norwegian dude made or lost money after legal fees
Norwegian legal system is that since Apple sued him and lost, Apple will have to pay his lawyers' fees! They can afford it anyway even just from the excess profits they make from taking advantage of Norwegian consumers
 
Can’t believe some people would not mind having counterfeit parts.

Third party parts are not counterfeit parts.

Third party parts are compatible, but does not claim to be identical to the original parts.
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I understand this argument about repairs in general, BUT this is just Stupid Authorize repair facilities exist.

If you cannot afford warranty repairs then you wait until you can. Otherwise sure go to the guy around the corner in the laundry mat strip mall.

Loose all your genuine parts that make iPhone. Screen, Speakers, Oh and wait maybe they replace memory too or take out your security enclave chip and insert there own skimmer to capture your data.. :eek::eek::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Then scream at Apple for loss & theft.... :mad::mad::mad:

nothing but FUD
 
Good. My old iPhone 5 would have died a lot sooner without 3rd party parts. Replaced headphone and lightning port, camera, battery and display on my own and it still works (against all odds considering I lost like half of the screws over time). As much as these devices can do, they are not magic and repairs are often easy to do if the manufacturer is interested in offering their customers lasting hardware. I feel that was still the case for the iPhone 5, not sure about later iterations. And that is honestly sad. I'm not even trying to make the point that Apple is greedy. I think Apple is just as greedy as any profit-oriented company is. The point is that their customers (as this thread's replies shockingly display) let Apple get away with it. They are even happy about it. They apparently just love to be the good customers and pay unreasonably high prices for basic repairs. Apple knows that and of course exploits that blind brand loyalty. How can you blame them?
 
The replacement displays may not have the Apple logo, but the enclosure that display goes back into certainly does. Let's say someone replaced an internal component with some cheap copy and then sold the iPhone. The iPhone fails and the person thinks Apple's iPhones are poorly made and tells everyone on social media. Or, they take it to an Apple store where the cheap part is discovered and service is denied, again enraging the customer.

I'm fine with people doing with their property as they please, but if a repair shop is using counterfeit parts, then some type of permanent notice needs to placed on the outside of the iPhone or perhaps the Apple logo needs to be covered to signify the modification.

When people buy used things, they understand it might not work like a new device. I don't think the buyer would blame Apple.
 
When people buy used things, they understand it might not work like a new device. I don't think the buyer would blame Apple.

Quite true. If I take my car in to the local garage for repair, and I have trouble with that same part later, I don't blame Chevy or Ford or Dodge or whoever. I would consider the fault to be with the person who performed the repair.

However, if I discover that the reason the repair didn't work was because Chevy or Ford or Dodge (whichever) had deliberately designed the car to automatically fail if another shop performed the repair using factory original parts, then yes I would blame the original manufacturer of the car (Chevy, Ford, Dodge, whoever).

The ant tampering mechanisms violate the consumer's rights to perform their own repairs (or hire someone to do so for them) for the purpose of continuing to use a device which they paid for. We have the right to be able to make such repairs ourselves with whatever parts we deem suitable to use.

There is considerable legislation in process to reassert our rights:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_Vehicle_Owners'_Right_to_Repair_Act

https://www.fastcompany.com/4051877...islation-has-now-been-introduced-in-17-states

https://ifixit.org/blog/8780/apple-right-to-repair/

There are numerous other such laws either in-place or in legislation. The above is just a quick click search.
 
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