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Apple Mac Pro 2010 - What would you like to see changed?
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If they make a cheaper Mac Pro, I will definitely buy new, new, instead of legacy, used.
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PS: Ventro, you are a genius. Black, backlit keyboard is something they could sell to everybody, including me, and is such a good idea that it feels almost inevitable...I hope.
The mathematical formula for this hypothesis is, Me +
= PS: Ventro, you are a genius. Black, backlit keyboard is something they could sell to everybody, including me, and is such a good idea that it feels almost inevitable...I hope.
- Cheaper low-end model
- SSD and bigger HD options
- 20" and 30" LED displays
- New Mighty Mouse and keyboard
- SSD and bigger HD options
- 20" and 30" LED displays
- New Mighty Mouse and keyboard
Fair enough, I thought the Xeons were more expensive than the i7s, I guess then I'd like to see a C2Q in there then, something higher than the C2Ds in the iMacs, but cheaper than the Xeons currently used.
My frustration with the audio hookups is that the Pro doesn't use the PC Standard 3 mini-din jacks for 5.1 sound (Front L/R, Rear L/R, Sub/center). As such, if you want surround sound, you either gotta hook the pro up to a full-on stereo setup, or buy the ONLY computer 5.1 setup that takes TOS-Link input - the Logiteck Z-5500...
I game on my Pro (under Windows 7) and really need 5.1 sound, but as things currently stand, I'm stuck. I've got 2 5.1 computer speaker setups, I'm not about to drop ANOTHER $300 on the Z-5500's. Just annoying!!!! I COULD go get a SB X-Fi PCI-E card, but then I'd have to switch back and forth the speaker setups when playing stuff in Windows vs. OSX.
I just don't get why a computer that is sold mostly for audio/video professionals has such CRAP audio out options!
- A keyboard with a multi-touch pad or a touch pad accessory- USB 3.0
- Additional PCIe power connectors for a 2nd high-end card
- Dual-socket CPU card with only 1 CPU so you can expand it later
- More monitor choices
- More GPU choices
- More storage options:
- Additional PCIe power connectors for a 2nd high-end card
- Dual-socket CPU card with only 1 CPU so you can expand it later
- More monitor choices
- More GPU choices
- More storage options:
- eSATA
- Another row of drive sleds (8 total)
- Sleds that take 3.5 or 2.5 inch drives
- 6GB/s SATA inteface
How about a row of 2.5" drive bay's above the 3.5" drive bay's.
More RAM slots would be nice, I can always use more RAM.
More Ports, USB, FW, add some ESATA.
More RAM slots would be nice, I can always use more RAM.
More Ports, USB, FW, add some ESATA.
Here's my wishlist:
1. New case. The current one has been around since 2003.
2. Better GPUs.
3. Option up to 3.2 GHz.
4. eSATA would be nice.
5. SSD drive bays.
6. Blu-Ray, which I believe is coming with the next refresh.
7. Maybe a new keyboard and mouse.
8. A single and dual processor Core i7 version. Starting at $2099 or less. Get rid of the 20'' iMac and slide everything down.
9. More RAM slots on the quad core.
1. New case. The current one has been around since 2003.
2. Better GPUs.
3. Option up to 3.2 GHz.
4. eSATA would be nice.
5. SSD drive bays.
6. Blu-Ray, which I believe is coming with the next refresh.
7. Maybe a new keyboard and mouse.
8. A single and dual processor Core i7 version. Starting at $2099 or less. Get rid of the 20'' iMac and slide everything down.
9. More RAM slots on the quad core.
If just ONE Mac had to have Blu Ray, it'd be the Mac Pro.
Apple need Blu Ray in their computers!
Apple need Blu Ray in their computers!
+Base Quad model $1,899-$2,199, Base Octo $2,699-$2,899
+DDR3 is multiple of THREE slots (6 Quad / 12 Octo) like every other server grade system
+ at least a $100 GPU standard (whatever is available at the time)
Those would be my main items. The rest like the case design, dust filter, 5.1 audio etc would be nice but not a dealbreaker.
+DDR3 is multiple of THREE slots (6 Quad / 12 Octo) like every other server grade system
+ at least a $100 GPU standard (whatever is available at the time)
Those would be my main items. The rest like the case design, dust filter, 5.1 audio etc would be nice but not a dealbreaker.
same case (no need for a change)
better stock video card and more choices for upgrade
SATA 3, 1 SSD drive bay and 4 HD drive bays
USB 3.0
Quad Core with 6 RAM slots and ability to add a second CPU so that you have an Octo
Built-in Airport
better stock video card and more choices for upgrade
SATA 3, 1 SSD drive bay and 4 HD drive bays
USB 3.0
Quad Core with 6 RAM slots and ability to add a second CPU so that you have an Octo
Built-in Airport
What is an AirPort stand?
And it would be best for the quad and octo had the same amount of RAM slots.
Probably meant AirPort built in as standard. Which will not happen because there are buyers who will not purchase them with the hardware even in the system. There is no reason for Apple to add cost to a system on their end when they do not need that feature to sell them.
As for the memory the way the memory controllers work you are looking at 6 DIMMs max for a one socket system and 12 for a two socket in a Mac Pro.
Is that because there is only one memory controller? If so, why not modify the Nehalem architecture, when Westmere, I think it is, comes around for one and two memory controller applications?
I agree with you, but at the same time, if you have to have a receiver anyway, why are we still bothering with 3 minijacks? It's kind of like the VGA port at this point. Replaced by much better alternatives, but still built into everything.
Worth noting is that you could go surround out into any receiver (think of the many home theater receivers that take TOSLINK in) via optical cable. So you don't have to get that one system. But the problem is that OS X doesn't support surround properly - my system works only with a few specific apps. I can't monitor surround in say, soundtrack, via TOSLINK because software support isn't there. That bothers me more. You can only do it through a much more expensive USB/firewire mixing board with a lot of other stuff.
This isn't exactly the most popular position, but I do think that some old ports and standards need to disappear as hardware gets revised. The VGA port's shelf life ended at least half a decade ago. It needs to not get built onto any more hardware. DVI will stick around longer, which is not a bad thing, but DVI was vastly superior and it took longer than it should have to gain traction. Floppy disks stuck around too long, and optical media will probably persist longer than we want as well.
In fact, I wouldn't even mind if DVI was completely discontinued at this point, as long as all the companies started firing on the new standard at the same time. I think we'd all find Mini Display Port less objectionable if everything was being produced for it (seriously, though, was mini strictly necessary?). It's not impossible, but it'd be nice to see our connections unified.
The memory controller is on the processor (i.e out of Apple's control). It can connect to 3 memory channels. Each channel supports 3 DIMMs. With one processor that means a maximum of 9 memory slots, with two processors 18. However for workstations 12 is really the optimal number as if you put 3 DIMMs on any channel the maximum memory speed is 800MHz and without registered memory you are taking a performance hit too. 9 would have been a better option that 8, 6 connected to one processor and 3 to the other.
Apple crippled the memory on the Mac Pro. With 8 memory slots populating them all means no memory works at triple channel speed and they don't support 1333MHz memory on the 2.66Ghz and 2.93Ghz Octos.
Ok, I dont' want to take over the thread... Yes, I know you can use the TOSLINK to a stereo receiver. THe thing is, WHY?? Why couldn't they just use the STANDARD PC audio 5.1 hookup that EVERY OTHER COMPUTER uses? Not to mention, I don't WANT another stereo receiver just to act as an amp, especially when I have 2 other computer 5.1 (including a THX one) systems.
It amazes me that OSX doesn't really even support 5.1 correctly. Just plain SAD!
