The Mac Pro Lite, X-Mac, etc...
Apple seems to have no interest in this. Shame since I think it would be an excellent market for them.
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Apple Mac Pro 2010 - What would you like to see changed?
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The Mac Pro Lite, X-Mac, etc...
Apple seems to have no interest in this. Shame since I think it would be an excellent market for them.
This.
Plus the inclusion of Firewire 1600/3200 or eSata and Blu-Ray now that Compressor supports it.
- price/performance ratio on par with the 2008 models
- One 2.5" bay (in addition to the 4 3.5")
- All Firewire to 3200
- A couple more USB ports and all 3.0 (is the spec finalized yet?)
- More PCIe lanes (how about all x16!)
- Additional PCIe power connectors for using 2 Graphics cards
- A couple more BTO graphics cards
- RAM slots that make sense with the memory arch.
- SATA 3 (6 Gb/s)
- At least one eSATA port
- Blu-ray burner as BTO (since there is software support for burning why not have it as an option?)
- Drop the single socket all together and return to the 8-core standard like it was before.
I don't think Apple cares that much
They are no longer called Apple Computer.
Take a look at MacRumors home page.
Most of the topics (rumors) are about iPod and iPhone.
If it wasn't for Snow Leopard, I wouldn't even know that Apple is in the computer business.
Well, maybe Apple has some interest in their notebooks but not too much with their desktops.
They are no longer called Apple Computer.
Take a look at MacRumors home page.
Most of the topics (rumors) are about iPod and iPhone.
If it wasn't for Snow Leopard, I wouldn't even know that Apple is in the computer business.
Well, maybe Apple has some interest in their notebooks but not too much with their desktops.
I'd like to see an "anti-whining-about-the-price-point" device on the new Mac Pros. That would be fantastic!
In all seriousness though:
* Blu-ray
* An actual usable mouse (something like the MX Revolution sans-LCC)
* Wireless keyboard with number pad
* Quieter superdrive
* Internal unicorns (ponies for the base model of course, upgradeable to unicorns)
In all seriousness though:
* Blu-ray
* An actual usable mouse (something like the MX Revolution sans-LCC)
* Wireless keyboard with number pad
* Quieter superdrive
* Internal unicorns (ponies for the base model of course, upgradeable to unicorns)
1. Nope.
2. Why? They'd rather have a 1.8" area on the logic board for an optional SSD boot drive.
3. Eh... I don't see FireWire existing much longer.
4. Yes, a PC motherboard ships with them now.
5. Want? Yes. Will see? Doubtful.
6. Nope.
7. Eh?
8. Let's see some drives that can use it first.
9. Nope.
10. Okay, why do you want a SEVEN HUNDRED dollar option for a $150 drive?
what?
why is there a greater chance of seeing 1.8 drives on the mother board? wouldnt you think that 2.5 drives would be smarter considering most SSD are that size? And no, PC motherboards dont ship with usb 3.0 yet. they wont be until next year. There are plenty of drives that can use eSATA. what do you mean you want to see drives that support it first? the memory slots to be in factors of three is also a great idea. i dont get your reasoning behind any of what you said.
why is there a greater chance of seeing 1.8 drives on the mother board? wouldnt you think that 2.5 drives would be smarter considering most SSD are that size? And no, PC motherboards dont ship with usb 3.0 yet. they wont be until next year. There are plenty of drives that can use eSATA. what do you mean you want to see drives that support it first? the memory slots to be in factors of three is also a great idea. i dont get your reasoning behind any of what you said.
You're numbering seems to be a little bit off here, but whatever..
I know that the price/performance ratio probably won't go back, but this is what I'd like to see.
I don't much understand why they'd want the 1.8" drive seeing as the major SSDs all seem to be 2.5"
Firewire is still massively useful to the music community and given the recent update to Logic (which seems to be well accepted from what I've read) they still care about that market at least a little.
I haven't seen any USB 3.0 devices or motherboards and didn't think they had even started production yet. If someone would like to prove me wrong then go right ahead because advancements are always good!
The additional PCIe lanes and power connections would make sense for OpenCL type applications using a PCIe Cell processor (which is actually for sale!) or the Tesla card.
I feel like you skipped the memory architecture point I made, but maybe that is just a mistake in my reading your post. With the current design I think the single socket makes most sense with 6 slots and dual with 12 (little things like this would help me to justify the greater relative price to the 2008 models).
eSATA would nice as more and more external enclosures support that and it is native speed for the drive.
I was under the impression that SSDs are fast approaching the limitations of SATA II and so SATA III would only make sense.
Lastly the Blu-ray burner wouldn't be so much for me, but for those who want to buy the computer and never want to put anything else in it or don't want to have an extra burner laying around when taking one out. I'm sure it would be over priced as many of the BTO options from Apple are, but supporting something in software and not selling any hardware at all that can utilize said software just seems backwards to me.
Yeah, sorry about that.
These! For something so normal like a mouse I really would have expected Apple to put out something that "just works". I really wish the new style (chiclet IIRC) wireless keyboard had the number pad like the older ones. Unicorns! We all need unicorns inside our computers that is how they will be magically powered thus even more green!
While I see your point and I am greatly distressed about this many signs still point to the computer side of life. All of iTunes is computer based because Apple is smart enough to realize that the vast majority of people shopping on iTunes are most likely doing so from a Windows computer. I think Snow Leopard, the updates across the board earlier this year (remember how many people said the Mac Mini was surely dead and were already bemoaning the fact?), and the recent updates to the "Pro" applications still show a steady dedication to the computer "leg" of the business.
This needs support in OSX immidiatly. Unfortunatly, guess who makes Cell? IBM...
And I don't think either company is happy at the other one Still, I think that we ALL know the MacPro is overpriced. We all want a cheaper one - who doesn't! Post in "Is the MacPro WAY overpriced?" so that we can keep this discussion purly on hardware.
This needs support in OSX immidiatly. Unfortunatly, guess who makes Cell? IBM...
Still, I think that we ALL know the MacPro is overpriced. We all want a cheaper one - who doesn't! Post in "Is the MacPro WAY overpriced?" so that we can keep this discussion purly on hardware.
If Apple were to throw enough money at them IBM would certainly help with the integration of the Cell. Toshiba is also a partner on the Cell project and it seems that they have a good relationship with Apple. How great would it be if they could have the Cell as a standard coprocessor on the MacPro? The wonders that could do for the video apps...
Exactly what I was thinking
I can imagine just buying a MacPro to run headless for rendering... ah, the bliss. Maybe, just maybe Nuke would support it Probably not; would support for a coprocessor card not just have to be written in the driver and in the OS, but also for the program itself?After skimming this thread:
1. USB 3.0 mobos already exist. Although sparingly and obviously only on the PC side. As far as I know, there are no USB 3.0 devices though.
2. I can see Apple skipping over the 6-core with the Nehalem die shrink in favor of Sandy Bridge. If they offer the 6-core they'd probably bump the whole lineup to the 32nm die shrink. Other than that the real "wow...holy..sh.." factor will be with Sandy Bridge.
3. Agreed that they need two more PCIe power ports for two high end cards.
4. Base models need to have more than 3GB RAM. 3GB RAM in a workstation way into 2K and 3K territory is absolutely laughable. Especially with RAM prices, ECC or not.
5. A mini tower could be averted if they'd simply offer decent GPUs in the iMacs for the people who want to game. That and tossing a Quad Core in them, even if it is a Penryn. Or they could use a Nehalem with HT disabled (would drop the temps low enough to work in that enclosure). Either way, the GPU offerings in the iMacs need to be improved.
That's about all I can remember at the moment. May edit to add more later.
1. USB 3.0 mobos already exist. Although sparingly and obviously only on the PC side. As far as I know, there are no USB 3.0 devices though.
2. I can see Apple skipping over the 6-core with the Nehalem die shrink in favor of Sandy Bridge. If they offer the 6-core they'd probably bump the whole lineup to the 32nm die shrink. Other than that the real "wow...holy..sh.." factor will be with Sandy Bridge.
3. Agreed that they need two more PCIe power ports for two high end cards.
4. Base models need to have more than 3GB RAM. 3GB RAM in a workstation way into 2K and 3K territory is absolutely laughable. Especially with RAM prices, ECC or not.
5. A mini tower could be averted if they'd simply offer decent GPUs in the iMacs for the people who want to game. That and tossing a Quad Core in them, even if it is a Penryn. Or they could use a Nehalem with HT disabled (would drop the temps low enough to work in that enclosure). Either way, the GPU offerings in the iMacs need to be improved.
That's about all I can remember at the moment. May edit to add more later.
Been saving for a year.....
I saved up $6700 and I will be selling my 2008 3.2Ghz Mac Pro that should bring the total close to $10,000 that should be way more enough for 2010 Mac Pro, The hardware I like to see is Blu-Ray standard, have the latest GPU as PC at the same time, revised case and a soundcard.
I saved up $6700 and I will be selling my 2008 3.2Ghz Mac Pro that should bring the total close to $10,000 that should be way more enough for 2010 Mac Pro, The hardware I like to see is Blu-Ray standard, have the latest GPU as PC at the same time, revised case and a soundcard.
You don't have doubts about messing with bezels, and it also allows to put other things, like a half-height LTO drive.
They are no longer called Apple Computer.
Take a look at MacRumors home page.
Most of the topics (rumors) are about iPod and iPhone.
If it wasn't for Snow Leopard, I wouldn't even know that Apple is in the computer business.
Well, maybe Apple has some interest in their notebooks but not too much with their desktops.
100%
apple is pretty excited about their iphone & ipod touch, then the notebooks and i think by the next year apple will say we don't want desktop anymore, later they will give up notebooks and just go 4 a newer ipod touch & iphone.