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It's also a matter of record that Xerox sued Apple, saying that Apple ''intentionally and purposefully concealed'' the derivation of the Lisa and Macintosh software from Xerox software... and therefore were unjustly receiving licensing benefits that belonged to Xerox.

Apple made it clear to Xerox that they were producing a consumer product with a GUI and allowed Xerox to profit by buying Apple stock. Xerox even approved visits from their engineers to Apple's headquarters. Xerox had nothing to complain about. They agreed to it. Xerox filed suit over this arrangement almost a decade after the fact. Xerox was happy to make a little cash off the ideas while letting Apple take the big risk on developing and marketing an actual product, but were not happy when they saw what a huge opportunity they missed out on by not doing so themselves. Their lawsuit was crap which is why it was dismissed in its entirety.

Mouse, Visual Voicemail, Multitouch.

Just because Apple buys smaller companies and slaps an Apple logo on it doesn't mean Apple invented it.

Who's saying otherwise? Do you have press releases from Apple or quotes from their execs laying claim to the invention of any of those things?

I didn't get from lightpeak comment that Apple is saying this. A cult is a group of followers, so my take on lightpeak's comment is that it referring to the Apple fan base.

Anyone talking like that should make that fact clear, otherwise they run the risk of annoying people--especially since it seems that every 5 posts is someone making the same damn comment. And I would still say that's a strawman argument anyway. Most of the people on MR know this stuff well enough. I don't see a lot of people on this site or anywhere else claiming that Apple invented these things.
 
I wonder if Apple might be wanting to make some money from licensing some technology that is a knock-on effect from some of its other projects? Not really in the market to develop but to sell patents? Good way f recovering certain R&D expenditures.
 
Apple made it clear to Xerox that they were producing a consumer product with a GUI and allowed Xerox to profit by buying Apple stock. Xerox even approved visits from their engineers to Apple's headquarters. Xerox had nothing to complain about. They agreed to it. Xerox filed suit over this arrangement almost a decade after the fact. Xerox was happy to make a little cash off the ideas while letting Apple take the big risk on developing and marketing an actual product, but were not happy when they saw what a huge opportunity they missed out on by not doing so themselves. Their lawsuit was crap which is why it was dismissed in its entirety.



Who's saying otherwise? Do you have press releases from Apple or quotes from their execs laying claim to the invention of any of those things?



Anyone talking like that should make that fact clear, otherwise they run the risk of annoying people--especially since it seems that every 5 posts is someone making the same damn comment. And I would still say that's a strawman argument anyway. Most of the people on MR know this stuff well enough. I don't see a lot of people on this site or anywhere else claiming that Apple invented these things.

I think the point here is this: while I believe you are correct in stating that Apple has never publicly claimed in any way to have been the inventors of those technologies, many people tend to credit them as so regardless of this (the discussions on multitouch are a good example of this).
 
...many people tend to credit them as so regardless of this (the discussions on multitouch are a good example of this).

;) isn't this the case so often....

Most Apple fans would probably answer "yes" to the question "Did Apple invent USB?" in spite of the facts.
 
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Oh, no. You have it wrong. Apple NEVER rips off... they only "borrow". You see, ANY other company rips Apple off. That's the way it works within the walls of COA (Cult Of Apple).

Anyone talking like that should make that fact clear, otherwise they run the risk of annoying people--especially since it seems that every 5 posts is someone making the same damn comment. And I would still say that's a strawman argument anyway. Most of the people on MR know this stuff well enough. I don't see a lot of people on this site or anywhere else claiming that Apple invented these things.

I read the statement for what it said, which did not mention anything about Apple saying this. You put your own spin on it. You went all off track and put words and thoughts into the comment that do not exist. To me, this is exactly what the poster is talking about. As you see below, others have a different perspective on the comment more in line with what the poster was saying.

;) isn't this the case so often....

Most Apple fans would probably answer "yes" to the question "Did Apple invent USB?" in spite of the facts.

I think the point here is this: while I believe you are correct in stating that Apple has never publicly claimed in any way to have been the inventors of those technologies, many people tend to credit them as so regardless of this (the discussions on multitouch are a good example of this).
 
And I would still say that's a strawman argument anyway.

I'm not sure you understand what a strawman argument actually is. If anything, your previous posts are.

You put your own spin on it.



But back on topic, this TV wand thing seems really awkward. While I agree trying to type something out with a remote + on-screen keyboard isn't ideal, i'm not sold on this pointer thing either. For the record, my opinion is that the wii is the lessar of the three consoles.
 
After learning the success of Nintendo Wii, Apple decided to resurface their failed magic wand. Sure. It was concidence. Not! :D

Nintendo is going to file a lawsuit very soon. But will probably lose. Apple will triump and soon make Nintendo Wii shake like a vibrator. lol.

I have no doubt that the Magic Wand is not only for Apple TV but for its giant sized iMAC. althought this is a cool idea. Microsoft is already 10 light years ahead using finger gesture as control.
 
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