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Apple never stole IP. They licensed Xerox PARC's IP in the 1980s to create the Lisa and Mac, those are facts. Show me even one example of when Apple actually wholesale violated someone's design patent or was sued over it.
 
With year-over-year unit growth of over 20%, Apple was the only one of the top five U.S. vendors to see an increase in shipments in an overall market that shrank by nearly 6%.

I guess that helps explain why CES 2012 looks an awful lot like MacWorld 2008........

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You mean a silver laptop with black keys for the hp, sorry to say but hp had that color scheme much longer. They also did the glass covering on the displays first as well. It was called the hp infinity display. It came out before the unibody macbooks. The dv7's they had back then actually looked much nicer than the newer dv7's although the last refresh improved it a lot. Before the dv7 was the dv9000 which had black keys on a silver body.

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Apple never stole IP. They licensed Xerox PARC's IP in the 1980s to create the Lisa and Mac, those are facts. Show me even one example of when Apple actually wholesale violated someone's design patent or was sued over it.

They haven't...


What Apple did for PC's is the same thing that Canonical did for Linux .

Ubuntu is nothing new or revolutionary is simply approachable and marketable Linux..Apple buy's neat technology refines and packages it makes it approachable and marketable.

When the Adobe CS and the MS Silverlight come to Linux I'll be back. Everything else I use is open source or available for Linux..

TB is forward thinking by both Intel and Apple..it will negate the need for workstations and servers. Like the other thread cluster a few minis together you have a Mac Pro..need more capability at one or two more..is your Mac getting slow rendering 3d add new graphics capability..express card slots will be a thing of the past...

I don't thinks Apples intent was for TB to be a solution for external storage..it was always replace desktops with portables by giving them what people clamor for PCI expandability.
 
Apple never stole IP. They licensed Xerox PARC's IP in the 1980s to create the Lisa and Mac, those are facts. Show me even one example of when Apple actually wholesale violated someone's design patent or was sued over it.

It's funny how this first big move by Apple pretty much established their modus operandi since.

Apple didn't invent the GUI. They licensed it. Good for them. But then they turned around and sued MS for having the audacity to implement a similar idea to one they themselves licensed from someone else. It wasn't their innovation to sue over, only their implementation of. And much like the IP battles we're seeing Apple fight now, they lost their ass in the proceedings.
 
It's funny how this first big move by Apple pretty much established their modus operandi since.

Apple didn't invent the GUI. They licensed it. Good for them. But then they turned around and sued MS for having the audacity to implement a similar idea to one they themselves licensed from someone else. It wasn't their innovation to sue over, only their implementation of. And much like the IP battles we're seeing Apple fight now, they lost their ass in the proceedings.

You just said it. Apple licensed the technology and Microsoft stole it.
 
It's funny how this first big move by Apple pretty much established their modus operandi since.

Apple didn't invent the GUI. They licensed it. Good for them. But then they turned around and sued MS for having the audacity to implement a similar idea to one they themselves licensed from someone else. It wasn't their innovation to sue over, only their implementation of. And much like the IP battles we're seeing Apple fight now, they lost their ass in the proceedings.

But the didn't license it..hence the suit

They either haven't lost their ass or feel they haven't because the suits continue..


Please folks stop imposing your values on Apple..If I was the CEO of apple there would be even more legal action, I think Apple a=has showed great restraint.

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Apple never licensed the GUI.

You're right the purchased it..I know you want to find fault with the percieved titan but c'mon this line of thought is like calling masturbation sex because you ejaculate..
 
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The first successful commercial GUI product was the Apple Macintosh, which was heavily inspired by PARC's work; Xerox was allowed to buy pre-IPO stock from Apple, in exchange for engineer visits and an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product.[6]

Whereas, Microsoft was allowed to peek into the Mac lab and Bill Gates just stole the UI without even asking, much less licensing or pre-IPO stock.
 
There is nothing there that says they bought the GUI or licensed it.

What would you call being "allowed to buy pre-IPO stock from Apple, in exchange for engineer visits and an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product."? Sounds like a purchase to me.
 
I have no idea why folks try to find fault with any product or its followers..

I ride a Serotta bicycle..drive an e21 BMW..have Apple computer and phones...wear lowe boots...wear Cabelas cloths...and work in operations for the U.S. Army (civilian) where exactly do i fit?

I was an infantry soldier during the "wars"

I have a bachelors in Business Administration and a masters in Computer Science...

Please pidgin hole me..

P.S. It's not good to make unfounded assumptions...
 
What would you call being "allowed to buy pre-IPO stock from Apple, in exchange for engineer visits and an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product."? Sounds like a purchase to me.

Sounds like Apple might have bought the engineers to create a GUI for them, not the GUI itself.
 
Sounds like Apple might have bought the engineers to create a GUI for them, not the GUI itself.

"...an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product."

Maybe you're reading something different. (The "engineer visits" referenced are Apple engineers visiting PARC.)
 
"...an understanding that Apple would create a GUI product."

Maybe you're reading something different. (The "engineer visits" referenced are Apple engineers visiting PARC.)

Either way, that doesn't mean apple bought the GUI.
 
There is nothing there that says they bought the GUI or licensed it.

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No they didn't. Xerox didn't invent the mouse. Douglas Engelbart did.

Goes back to my packaging comment..please read...Apple deserves much anger but this isn't the correct direction...
 
:rolleyes: They bought access to the PARC's GUI research and permission to use it in a product. What is the point of the distinction that you are trying to make?

The point that I'm trying to make is that Apple didn't buy the GUI or license it.
 
How is buying the GUI different than paying for access to the GUI research and permission to use it in a product?

If Apple had bought the GUI, then no one but Apple could use it. Apple only got inspired by Xerox, which is why they wanted access to the GUI research and used it on their Macintosh. Same goes for the mouse.
 
If Apple had bought the GUI, then no one but Apple could use it. Apple only got inspired by Xerox, which is why they wanted access to the GUI research and used it on their Macintosh. Same goes for the mouse.

:) There you go. So would you be okay if I were to say that Apple bought permission to use PARC's GUI-related IP in future products?
 
:) There you go. So would you be okay if I were to say that Apple bought a license to use PARC's GUI-related IP in future products?

No, because they didn't. Steve Jobs visited Xerox PARC, where he was shown the GUI and was impressed by it and used it for the Lisa, then the Macintosh.
 
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