You need to read that post again. I specifically said that it's the other OEM's that don't care about auto shutdowns, not Apple. That's why those other companies say "we don't throttle our CPU" while at the same time not denying that their own phones can have an auto shutdown.
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You need to read that post again. I specifically said that it's the other OEM's that don't care about auto shutdowns, not Apple. That's why those other companies say "we don't throttle our CPU" while at the same time not denying that their own phones can have an auto shutdown.
You mean like the belief of some that there are paid shills here that knock Apple at every opportunity (paid by Google, Samsung, etc) ?
He he he you just proved that it's Apple that is causing the throttling...... not the benchmark software . That backfired.
Let me explain something , from years of experience, benchmarking can cause throttling, thermal throttling...... though say you run a test in a cold environment, food chance your device will not throttle .
The systems I've build , never throttled under benchmarking , used watercooling.
I know what you wrote.
The Other OEMs know that end of life batteries shut down devices. Its normal. That is why other OEM batteries aren't throttled.
Thats why other OEMs put in a bit more effort in battery design than apple.
Which of course, you know.
He he he...you didn't read what I posted because you know it's correct and you're wrong. Benchmark software creates big peaks/valleys in power draw, which is EXACTLY what the software fix Apple added to iOS is looking to smooth out.
i'm curious... can someone with a ~new~ iphone 7, stick their phone in the fridge (or go outside in you live in ND), and check to see if the phone throttles ?
Apple doesn't care if you are happy or not. They know they will still buy their phones and Apple is a company. They couldn't care less how you feel, as long as they get your cash.
But they're not saying that. They haven't said "our phones will never auto shutdown unless the battery is at EOL" because that wouldn't be true. Look at the lithium ion discharge chart I already posted...any lithium ion battery that hits the 20% charge mark is going to go into a steep decline for voltage available to the CPU. Could you trigger an auto shutdown by loading up the CPU when the battery is very low? Yes, you could.
Actually that shows a faulty system . And why it's throttling . Basically you are saying the iPhone will crash running a benchmark without the software .
Since you brought PC overclocking into this thread . Let me give you a free lesson
http://www.techradar.com/how-to/computing/how-to-overclock-your-cpu-1306573
When you build a system , you need to test that it's stable
..... and basically what we have worked out here.... is that the iPhone cannot even run a benchmark tool? Cause benchmark tools are the easy stuff, stress test software is the hard stuff . If a system is failing benchmarking software, it's got a fatal flaw......Now if I take my system , and I cripple it , to run and 30% of the CPU and GPU factory speeds, and it passes both bench marking and stress tests, I don't have a good system , I've just pissed away lot money, and might as well bought a system that costs 30% of what I paid . Any system that does not run at 100 % advertised speed is flawed....
Are you glad you brought CPU overclocking into the thread to support your peak volatage point ?
And to end this ....
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/powersupplysysteminstability.aspx
When a PC has a poor or inadequate PSU it will go through what the iPhone is.... crashes , reboots
So to end his analogy, the iPhone effectively has a dodgey PSU and you are trying to debate with people here that the PSU is okay if you Change the firmware to throttle the system to the poor PSU...... it's crazy..... fix the PSU. You system
Should run As spec'd
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oh they care, a lot, so much so that for $29 they'll hold you in their arms whilst that ball of anger in your chest dissipates into the universe and you lull gently into a most sweet, sweet slumber... and as you blissfully rest they whisper upgrade, upgrade, upgrade, enchantingly into your coddled noggin
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This is a very succinct, important post. This clearly and logically explains why and how Apple will lose billions of dollars in these lawsuits. They cannot win. Tim Cook will absolutely be replaced by the board of Apple for this costly, inevitable recall and refund to anyone who purchased an iPhone after the throttling silently started. This will happen.
More importantly, these shutdowns were occurring in my 6S when I had 82% charge. 66% charge. Etc etc. it never mattered where the battery was, it would auto shutdown whenever it felt like it. ESPECIALLY if it were in the morning and cold outside, though. That’s how I knew the phones were defective and that they were lying about the cause - over a year ago. I’ve been waiting for this revelation for quite some time and I can’t wait to see how much money they lose because of it.
You mean like the belief of some that there are paid shills here that knock Apple at every opportunity (paid by Google, Samsung, etc) ?
I dont think any of them are getting paid, I think they are probably happy to do Apples bidding for free.
For some any criticism of Apple is like their entire identity coming under attack, they are so devoted to them they've put them on a pedestal and cant bring themselves to believe that they can do any wrong. Bit tragic really.
You'd think buy the time two years rolls around, there will be an explanation and a fix.Do you think Samsung will give you a replacement phone out of warranty? Yeah, it is not the same thing at all.
The warranty is two years and the device is four months old at the most.
So yeah, like you say, totally different scenario, Samsung aren't possibly trying to get Note 8 owners to upgrade...
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This story is definitely the gift that keeps on giving for our friends at Mac Rumors!
And this mess up is going to cost Apple some of that money. Mistakes happen it’s part of life. It’s what you do when after that defines you. Especially after getting caught doing something shady.
I’m not deflecting anything. There are issues with some Note 8 batteries. But hey if you think the grass is greener in Android land go buy a Pixel or a Galaxy. Nobody is personally forced to own an Apple product.
Like responding to customer complaints about auto shutdowns with a new software feature that helps reduce the possibility of that happening (in addition to providing free battery replacements for the 6S serial numbers that were having most of the shutdown problems). So shady...
I have a 6, and for the longest time it would shut down at, 25, 30% battery. At some point (obviously when Apple implemented their fix) it “magically” stopped crashing, so I figured I didn’t have to replace my battery. However, I noticed it was dramatically slower - usually when that battery was low. I had a suspicion the two were related, but kept telling myself that was just crazy talk!
IMHO, when Apple originally added throttling, if they had just implemented a system setting to disable throttling for better performance, with a scary warning, and dropped the battery price at the same time, I’m guessing this would have been less explosive as an issue.
Problem is, that would open them up to questions on whether there is a design defect with the 6 series, bad PR, and (as always) class action lawsuits.
I think 2-year life expectancy on a battery is acceptable - but what I’ve never found acceptable is how difficult it is to replace the battery. I’ve swapped batteries in many iPhones over the years, it isn’t difficult for me but I always think of what a regular consumer must go through, and it bugs me. I really think this is the heart of the matter, as the battery is a consumable in a $600+ device, and is not easily replaced by most people.
IMHO, when Apple originally added throttling, if they had just implemented a system setting to disable throttling for better performance, with a scary warning, and dropped the battery price at the same time, I’m guessing this would have been less explosive as an issue.
Problem is, that would open them up to questions on whether there is a design defect with the 6 series, bad PR, and (as always) class action lawsuits.
I think 2-year life expectancy on a battery is acceptable - but what I’ve never found acceptable is how difficult it is to replace the battery. I’ve swapped batteries in many iPhones over the years, it isn’t difficult for me but I always think of what a regular consumer must go through, and it bugs me. I really think this is the heart of the matter, as the battery is a consumable in a $600+ device, and is not easily replaced by most people.
Moments like these and I remember just how much cash Apple has on hand, and how tempting it would be to use said cash to pay for comments like these. Not that they would do anything like that of course, and not that your comment was paid for, but it makes one wonder.
That is deflecting , I feel bad for pixel and note 8 users, their woes does not make this issue okay for us Apple iPhone owners
Nothing to do with grass is greener ! How about just ownership of the issue at hand ?