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Apple Makes $29 Battery Replacements Available Immediately for iPhone 6 and Newer
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No, those were the ones that were heavily used and where the issue was obvious.
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Because people are not informed that they are broken from new.
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It still has two high performance cores.... but they is not the point.
This patch must now be rolled out to all iPhones , irrespective . If it only applied to 6 and 6s, that is admission that those were faulty.
The throttling also has a nice side affect of Apple not having to replace batteries until things get very bad and that pushes users to upgrade .... if I was Apple , this is a very good patch !! Win win .... u till some geeks made it public ....
My iphone 6 had the battery swapped in June 2017, and is showing odd throttling behavior:
when battery charge is 100%-90% no throttling, 89%-70% throttled, 69%-50% no throttling, then 49%-0% throttled.
anyone else experiencing this?
when battery charge is 100%-90% no throttling, 89%-70% throttled, 69%-50% no throttling, then 49%-0% throttled.
anyone else experiencing this?
No, batteries are not at fault here. Is apple not adjusting the batteries to the need of the phone.
Not any phone, but Apple decides which phones it will affect and when it will go into effect. For example, it won't affect iPhone 8 and X just yet.
The phones models currently being throttled are iPhone 6/6S and iPhone 7.
You know the answer to this . Come on , stop creating side debates . If you can proof a battery will never degrade you have a point
Ok, I have some battery data that doesn't make logical sense and would be interesting to see if Apple has been pulling a fast one on its consumers. I just used CoconutBattery on my MacBook Pro to check all of my batteries on my iOS devices. From what I have read, Apple store employees can check your iOS battery health and determine if the battery needs to be replaced, but they will not tell the consumer the actual battery condition. I wonder what equipment/method is used to check the battery health?
Interestingly, I have an 2.5 year old iPhone 5S that registers 660 load cycles on the battery and still shows the battery health at 91.4% design capacity.
My 2 year old iPhone 6S that registers 560 load cycles on the battery and only shows the battery health at 73.5% design capacity. This is a big discrepancy. Especially since the 5S has 100 more load cycles than the 6S and almost 20% more battery life. What gives, Apple? Did Apple start using inferior batteries once they switched to the iPhone 6?
Did they build in obsolescence to get people to upgrade?
What about the iPad batteries? My iPad Pro 10.5 only has 70 cycles and is already down to 92.6% design capacity. Doesn't look good for battery longevity. Hopefully someone will check on the iPads............
Interestingly, I have an 2.5 year old iPhone 5S that registers 660 load cycles on the battery and still shows the battery health at 91.4% design capacity.
My 2 year old iPhone 6S that registers 560 load cycles on the battery and only shows the battery health at 73.5% design capacity. This is a big discrepancy. Especially since the 5S has 100 more load cycles than the 6S and almost 20% more battery life. What gives, Apple? Did Apple start using inferior batteries once they switched to the iPhone 6?
Did they build in obsolescence to get people to upgrade?
What about the iPad batteries? My iPad Pro 10.5 only has 70 cycles and is already down to 92.6% design capacity. Doesn't look good for battery longevity. Hopefully someone will check on the iPads............
Every lithium ion battery in every mobile phone will have lower and lower max voltage as the battery drains. At 20%, that drop can become very steep. That's the reason Apple has the low battery warning at that level and gives you the option to go into low power mode. Auto shutdowns are not limited to Apple designed phones or processors. The reason so many 6S users experienced it is because of a run of defective batteries during specific timeframe in manufacturing. You already linked to that on Apple's web site, so you're just being disingenuous about the cause.
I am just trying to understand what happend, because I deserve the truth after years of being loyal to Apple and giving hard earned money to them every year.
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This is just your opinion ..... you can't say someone is disingenuous if you don't agree. You are making some huge assumptions here...
Have any of the apologists managed to explain why iPhone 7s are being throttled yet?
Why have you just completely and utterly ignored the topic at hand?
Have you even read the OP?
He used lower case (s) followed by 'are' to indicate plural.
Read about how lithium ion batteries discharge and how that relates to the voltage that can be supplied to the CPU. There's your truth. Apple is using the same battery technology as everyone else and the limitations are the same. Pay specific attention to what happens to voltage once the battery gets to 20%...which just so happens to be the same point that Apple has the pop-up warning within iOS about low power.
https://learn.adafruit.com/li-ion-and-lipoly-batteries/voltages
Well, none of this has ever happened to me, so I guess it just wasn't a consideration, though I do see your point. *If* it were to die at this point, how much would they have given me for a two and a half year old phone, against a new one? Do you know? Without knowing this figure, it's hard for me to say whether I'd have done things differently. All I can tell you is that I put a high price on being able to do the fix myself (at midnight, as it happened) without leaving my house, as opposed to a 2 - 4 hour roundtrip out of my day.
Er, yes. But there's nothing "desperate" about holding onto an old phone. I think you'll find it's probably the least "desperate" option. It actually involves no effort at all. I have a 6 now, and my previous one was a 4S. Frankly, I far preferred the size of the old 4S, and even that was too big, IMO. Phones are just stupidly large now. I miss the days when a phone comfortably fit in my pocket. The *only* reason I replaced it with a 6 was because it had become so slow. I'm not saying I don't use some of the features on the newer phone, but they alone would never have made me hand my money over. I couldn't care less about facial recognition or touch ID. I recently bought a car with CarPlay and I see no benefit over that than simply connecting with Bluetooth. I can't even use Google Maps with it!
So yes, I'm sure there are plenty of people like me, who would only upgrade when the frustration of a slow phone became too much to bear. And don't for a minute think Apple doesn't know we exist.
Yup. I've had two iPhones now, and I think I might well try something different next time.
key difference -- VW was making their deisels FASTER under normal use
No, the entire world is using the same battery technology, but only Apple is acusing it that it slows their products in time. The rest of us who know how an old battery behaves (it lasts less and less) doesn’t belive this is the truth in the current case.
Depending on usage and the environment battery even on the X can degrade to that point in few months, but I tested 6S plus and 7 plus 26 and 14 months old respectively and haven’t found any throttling.
It’s pointless to argue with people that ignore science and reason.
So you believe that battery capacity declines, but don't believe that voltage drops and can cause an auto shutdown?