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Apple Makes iMovie, GarageBand, and iWork Apps for Mac and iOS Free for All Users
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Umm, MS Office 2016 Word is 1.97GB, Excel is 1.79GB and PP is 1.67GB.
GarageBand provides more functionality than most sub $100 audio apps. But yes, all that old stuff.
These all seem to be (justifiable) complaints against Numbers. Don't be hating on Pages just because Numbers is a "my first spreadsheet" program...
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I think you need to check a newer version of Word, looks like you're still using 2011 there.
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There's decent compatibility -- if the person using Pages knows enough to save a copy of their file as an MS Word doc (which Pages has been able to do for a long time). Or they could just Print > Save as PDF to share it. I have no problem sharing my Pages documents.
I hope Pages continues to regain some of its original functionality, but overall this is a good move for Mac users, especially with the iOS versions now being free. Garage Band for iOS is terrific!
Wow, your life must really be stressful, eh? Not having to pay Apple a dime for all of their hard work. Phew! Thank goodness, eh?
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Yes, this is a possibility. But given their financial strength, maybe they determined that this loss is insignificant if it translates into more people using their hardware.
true, finance/BI guy here, guilty
I only have 1 or 2 remarks for Pages.
- page orientation is only defined on the document level. or all pages are portrait or all pages are landscape...
- pasting of tables directly from Numbers can be annoying too sometimes. (especially coming from landscap reporting)
and keynote works quite well too
I strongly disagree. Keynote is fantastic. Pages and Numbers and missing some basic features, e.g. Pivot tables in numbers and continuous text boxes spanning pages in Pages but they are solid.
Yes, the suite needs more love from Apple. The UI change a few years back sucked. Hopefully they don't have a blind spot on the strategic importance of an office suite like they did with the Mac Pro and MacBook Pro.
But to say it's worthless is not my experience. I hope Apple invests heavily in iWork as it is one of my favorite parts of the Apple ecosystem.
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One great new feature with Numbers is being able to have spreadsheet cells return live stock exchange quotes, historical stock info along with metrics/performance, and currency exchange values including history.
That's killer...
How they chose this functionality above pivots I really don't understand. stock exchange is used by a niche or hobbyists looking up their stocks.
I think it's phil schiller who requested that I guess, just for his own use.
Pivots is used by practically everyone.
As a non-power user, I was using MS Office 2016 simply because I had a subscription through my employer. I've recently changed jobs so I'm expecting my licence to be revoked any day.
So, a few days ago, I downloaded Pages and Numbers (I've a 2013 Macbook so they were free even before today's announcement) and opened my .docx CV into Pages, and a couple of simple .xlsx spreadsheets into Numbers. My CV needed about 15 minutes of reformatting (well, 14 minutes of "eh? How the hell do I do that"? and 1 minute of changes) and my spreadsheets look ok off the bat.
I'm sure neither Pages nor Numbers are as fully featured as Word and Excel, but they'll do the job for me. The interface is cleaner and the apps are faster (a "benefit" to them having less functionality I suspect!).
So, a few days ago, I downloaded Pages and Numbers (I've a 2013 Macbook so they were free even before today's announcement) and opened my .docx CV into Pages, and a couple of simple .xlsx spreadsheets into Numbers. My CV needed about 15 minutes of reformatting (well, 14 minutes of "eh? How the hell do I do that"? and 1 minute of changes) and my spreadsheets look ok off the bat.
I'm sure neither Pages nor Numbers are as fully featured as Word and Excel, but they'll do the job for me. The interface is cleaner and the apps are faster (a "benefit" to them having less functionality I suspect!).
It's really easy to understand. Loads of Apple customers have been using Numbers for along time for a wide variety of uses. Being able to incorporate stock data/metrics is incredibly useful. Thus, Apple included that functionality.
I guess you missed the 'good move' part.
And yes for most part, everything Apple does is for the sake of it's business, brand and shareholders.
It's NOT really easy to understand. Loads of Apple customers have been using Numbers for along time for a wide variety of uses. Being able to PIVOT is incredibly useful. Thus, Apple DID NOT included that functionality.
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I'm sorry you're still having difficulty understanding why Apple included stock and currency live and historical data in its Numbers spreadsheet program. Many people use that feature and find it incredibly useful.
It is ok if you don't find it useful. Simply keep using what makes you happy.
Remember when the price on Aperture dropped... and what happened to it.
Apple officially recommended MS Office.
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Apple officially recommended MS Office.
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This does not seem to be an update to the software at this time. Seems like a backend 'update' that only affected pricing. I am still only seeing 7.1 on macOS.
Said no one ever who has used both products, or works within the corporate world.