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Well good for you. Your eyes are better than mine.


You can always turn the backlight off.


I didn't connect the two statements directly, but I can see how it came across that way.

My point is that it's better to have and not need than to need and not have.

I like not having to rely on ambient lighting to see the keys. The backlight makes key visibility a complete non-issue for everyone.

But hey, to each their own.

I DO turn it off ;) And yes, I know you can turn the brightness down too to mitigate that. I agree that--all other things being equal--it's better to have a feature and not need it than need it and not have it. But I wonder if all other things ARE equal. Seems like Apple must have some reason for still not including a backlight feature on external keyboards. I mean, let's be real - there's no way that this hasn't been considered within Apple for a long time.
 
Not to sidetrack this conversation, but what do you love about the Mx? And does that chunky thing that props up the back (shown in this pic) to tilt the keyboard come with it? (I'm still pissed at Apple for charging more for Space Gray before.)
The black bar on the top/underside is part of the keyboard, it's not detachable or a separate purchase. It houses the battery, bluetooth/USB transmitters, probably other circuitry. As far as things I enjoy, I like the short travel and non-clicky actuation of the keys themselves. The keys have parabolic indents I was hesitant about at first, but got used to very quickly. The backlight is a welcome addition. I was mainly buying this for a number pad, but also looking for performance similar to the Magic Keyboard. But you can also change what the function row keys do, as well as some additional settings. I used to enjoy Razer products for similar abilities, adjusting keys, macros, etc but they gave a middle finger to macOS with Synapse 3, the Logi Options software seems fine.
 
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The black bar on the top/underside is part of the keyboard, it's not detachable or a separate purchase. It houses the battery, bluetooth/USB transmitters, probably other circuitry. As far as things I enjoy, I like the short travel and non-clicky actuation of the keys themselves. The keys have parabolic indents I was hesitant about at first, but got used to very quickly. The backlight is a welcome addition. I was mainly buying this for a number pad, but also looking for performance similar to the Magic Keyboard. But you can also change what the function row keys do, as well as some additional settings. I used to enjoy Razer products for similar abilities, adjusting keys, macros, etc but they gave a middle finger to macOS with Synapse 3, the Logi Options software seems fine.
Thanks. Mine's arriving within hours from B&H (and they have an offer where they're including the palm rest for free!).

Update: It feels great. Love the shape of the keys, there's more travel, and yet they're quieter than the Magic Keyboard, and LOVE the onscreen caps-lock alert.
 
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No. And at this point in my life, I don't need to and never will.


I wish I'd taken that typing class in high school (35 years ago), but I'm fast enough now looking at the keyboard occasionally to make a living in IT.
I also don't touch type by the classic definition. But I still manage to pound out over 70 WPM with my home-grown style. And I can do a lot of that in code using characters like #,@, &, ->
 
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I DO turn it off ;) And yes, I know you can turn the brightness down too to mitigate that. I agree that--all other things being equal--it's better to have a feature and not need it than need it and not have it. But I wonder if all other things ARE equal. Seems like Apple must have some reason for still not including a backlight feature on external keyboards. I mean, let's be real - there's no way that this hasn't been considered within Apple for a long time.
That's what so baffling. I'd love to know the reason (besides money, of course), especially when they provide a backlight in the iPad keyboards.
 
Being a good typist isn't about speed. It's about efficiency and it's just plain crazy to not want to learn how to type especially with so much social media and forums today. You can easily install a free typing program and learn in a month's time. Backlit keys are helpful even for touch typists because of the function keys and the numbers up top. Whatever floats your boat but the infamous head bobbing isn't true typing. That's on the line of periodically looking down to shift the gears in your manual clutch. Proper driving is keeping your eyes on the road at all times and proper typing is keeping your eyes on the screen just the same.
Yeah, I tried to learn to type properly a few years ago, but I had to unlearn so much that it slowed me down way too much, especially at work.

So I gave it up.

Also, I'm a manual tranny fan and it's nowhere near the same thing. Head bobbing in a car is life-threatening. ;)
 
That's what so baffling. I'd love to know the reason (besides money, of course), especially when they provide a backlight in the iPad keyboards.

If I'm not mistaken, only the Magic Keyboard for the iPad has backlit keys. I'm pretty sure the Smart Keyboard Folio for iPad doesn't.
 
It’s pretty obvious you don’t drink coffee LOL. 7 cups???
It is very likely that he was having fun with the oft repeated comment here when people are urged to purchase something or subscribe to a service... Come on, you spend more on coffee daily than this xxx will cost you!!
 
That's what so baffling. I'd love to know the reason (besides money, of course), especially when they provide a backlight in the iPad keyboards.

I'd guess battery life... Logitech data below - 10 days vs up to 5 months.

As for mac vs ipad, I'd guess they may consider the ipad keyboard as analogous to laptops where Apple does regularly provide keyboard backlighting vs desktop keyboard where they don't.




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I'd guess battery life... Logitech data below - 10 days vs up to 5 months.

As for mac vs ipad, I'd guess they may consider the ipad keyboard as analogous to laptops where Apple does regularly provide keyboard backlighting vs desktop keyboard where they don't.




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Oh, wow. I didn't realize just how much power backlights were consuming o_O Only about 6% of the potential battery life is available with backlighting on, according to those figures for that keyboard.
 
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If I'm not mistaken, only the Magic Keyboard for the iPad has backlit keys. I'm pretty sure the Smart Keyboard Folio for iPad doesn't.
Correct. And the lack of backlighting is the only thing that keeps the folio keyboard from being perfect for me. But, I still use it. I tried the Magic Keyboard. Too heavy and bulky. Makes an iPad Pro close to the weight of an Air and feels even heavier and denser than the Air.
 
$30 for touch ID seems reasonable enough, but no compatibility with my non silicon touch ID MBP is disappointing
Well it's actually $60 more if you're in Canada. Everything is so much more expensive here. I haven't tested this myself, but I think only the touch Id won't work with non-Apple Silicone macs.

There's always the option to get the non-Touch Id keyboard for the same price of $119 CAD. They've updated that keyboard with the new keys like language switcher by the function key, added dictation and do not distrub media buttons, and replacing the eject button with a lock button.

All accessories have also been updated to come with a braided USB-C to lightning cable as well.
 
Well it's actually $60 more if you're in Canada. Everything is so much more expensive here. I haven't tested this myself, but I think only the touch Id won't work with non-Apple Silicone macs.
You're getting a deal. The price difference in the states is US$50 (not $30 as some have stated)

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