What Mac doesn't have Bluetooth these days (or for the last many many years for that matter)? And the battery lasts a LONG time. I'm not seeing any practical reason why Apple would do that.
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Apple Makes Magic Keyboard With Touch ID Available for Separate Purchase
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What Mac doesn't have Bluetooth these days (or for the last many many years for that matter)? And the battery lasts a LONG time. I'm not seeing any practical reason why Apple would do that.
Lol I literally just did this only to scroll down and see it again
I had the exact same thought. And it was already considered expensive not too long ago. They went completely overboard with the price once they put lithium batteries in them and then some.
Just that the corners are rounded off at different angles and presumably the hardware inside is more responsive/faster with better Bluetooth and/or other components. Nothing else that I can see. Still lightning to charge and the included wire is different.
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And now to continue the typical Macrumors thread vibe, I'm now obligated to call you an Apple sheep and make some other snide remark for bonus points 😂
I'm with you - it does get annoying when people immediately jump in to crap over everything Apple does. That doesn't make us sheep, though - it just means we prefer a little bit more balance and thoughtfulness from people. I'm fine with criticism, as long as it's rational and not melodramatic.
This bump slightly tilts the keyboard forward. It’s probably the rechargeable battery, which lasts weeks (maybe even months, depending on usage) and is USB-C rechargeable.
I remember the days when Apple introduced a new technology, while still managing to keep the price the same...
I wonder why people worry about this so much, cant y'all do touch typing by now? shouldn't even need to know the key, just where you put your pointer fingers with the home row keys
I also find interesting how everybody is complaining about the price. If the price is too high, then just don't buy. Life can be so simple...
For me the price is ok. We are talking about Apple here and not Asus or Huawei. People do seem to forget that sometimes.
I think it's worth it -- especially if you work with multiple user accounts. I have one for work, one for personal use and switching between the two just means pressing the sensor with a different finger (since I registered different ones for each account) and triggering Fast User Switching immediately.
Spreading that $30 out over years of instant authentication seems well worth it to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(Correction: apparently it's a $50 difference between TouchID and non-TouchID models. Still worth it to me!)
Not if you're smart and buy rechargables. I invested in some good Sanyo Eneloop AA and AAAs years ago and haven't bought a disposable battery since. There's always a stash of charged batteries sitting there waiting. Saves money, time, and you're putting way less crap into a landfill.
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some people do like to use computers in dim rooms for whatever reason....
if they happen to be not so good at typing, then they need backlit keyboards to see what they are typing.
I have never needed to look at my keyboard. I've been the Das Keyboard with blank keys for the last several years. (except the function keys) It's kind of expensive, but not really when compared to Apple keyboards... I originally bought it because I tried one and I loved how the keys felt. It always annoys my friends who come over and they want to use my computer for something.. then I have to take out a cheap no-name wireless keyboard so they can use it.
Damnit, JUST YESTERDAY I got tired of waiting and bought one of these on eBay for more than twice as much.
Feel free to point and laugh now.
Feel free to point and laugh now.
SOME people have highly acidic skin/fingertips which may cause such a reaction with painted materials but I can say with conviction that every iMac, Powerbook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro I've owned has never lost it's keyboard etchings or colored white keys. I've used them for many years and this has never happened. It's not a common occurrence regardless what anyone here says.
I had the model with the letters, but liked the keys (MX Browns). Unfortunately, it died pretty quickly and DAS support was not the best.some people do like to use computers in dim rooms for whatever reason....
if they happen to be not so good at typing, then they need backlit keyboards to see what they are typing.
I have never needed to look at my keyboard. I've been the Das Keyboard with blank keys for the last several years. (except the function keys) It's kind of expensive, but not really when compared to Apple keyboards... I originally bought it because I tried one and I loved how the keys felt. It always annoys my friends who come over and they want to use my computer for something.. then I have to take out a cheap no-name wireless keyboard so they can use it.
Still cannot touch type after 50+ years of trying. It just seems all wrong for my mind.
But that's precisely what I'm saying - even in dim or pitch dark rooms, the light from the display alone is sufficient enough to see the keyboard if you need to. At least for me it is.
Actually, you can complain about something not being available for purchase and then complain when that thing is eventually available at an absurd price point. Those are two different complaints.
I'm not advocating for complaining in general, mind you, and I have never heard anyone comparing the "Apple tax" to a VAT. But your post comes rather close to saying we have to take whatever Apple dishes out, and we actually do not.
that’s not necessarily the case. it depends on the display, what’s on the display, and where it sits in relation to the keyboard
i have my monitor on a riser/shelf such that it doesn’t really supply any light by which to see the keyboard
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That assumes that everyone knows how to touch-type.
I've been using computers since the late 80's, and after a 15-year stint in the military I've been in IT making a decent living as a DevOps Engineer for the last 11 years.
After all this time, I never learned how to type (properly), so I look at my keyboard every now and then.
Also, I often work in my bedroom office at night (maintenance activities are often after hours), so backlit keys are nice to have.
Thankfully, my work laptop has them and so does the Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro, so I'm good to go.
That said, my old 27" iMac's screen put out so much light that I never missed the keyboard backlight when using it, so...
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Darth Tulhu
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No. And at this point in my life, I don't need to and never will.
I wish I'd taken that typing class in high school (35 years ago), but I'm fast enough now looking at the keyboard occasionally to make a living in IT.
Incorrect, it has no trouble "unlocking" FileVault drives. The issue is that after a reboot or shutdown a bluetooth connected keyboard is not seen by the system until you log in. An issue for those of us using our laptops in clamshell mode but a minor one as far as my use is concerned as I rarely reboot.
I have had no issues with their software on my 2017 MBP. Letting the software lag for AS is an issue but how big a one? Performance will not be an issue for keyboard software so who cares if it runs through Rosetta in the short term. My guess is they will address it as the ratio of AS vs Intel Macs increases.
Bluetooth FTW! I run both my MX Keys and my MX Master 2s via bluetooth with no issues. Even if it was available in USB-C I wouldn't use it, why waste a port?
What one has to consider when discussing the MX Keys is that the main advantage is swapping between 3 devices. I run mine between my PC, my MBP and my iPP, it works flawlessly. My only wish is that it could switch the mouse at the same time. If one is not swapping between devices a legit argument can be made for the Apple KB as TouchID on the keyboard is helpful.
P.S. - The MX Keys is not black, for those making that claim perhaps you should look at one.