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Is there any alternative for this? an external third party Touch ID sensor?
No, this is the first Touch ID sensor on an accessory. You can use the Apple Watch to unlock a Mac (it does this automatically when the computer wakes from sleep/lock screen providing you are wearing an unlocked watch).
 
I see the new Magic Trackpad matches the new magic keyboard.

Is there any difference in the Magic Mouse? I'm more wondering if it had newer better bluetooth. Aesthetically it looks identical to the. Magic Mouse 2.

Very interesting observation. Apple's web page for the Magic Mouse has a little red "NEW" label at the top, indicating it's a new product. Consistent with this, it's available only online (at least currently), and not in any of its physical stores.

Indeed, from Apple's product photos the mouse doesn't appear to be any different. The one difference I can see is that the lightning to USB cable is now braided (it's also USB-C, not USB-A).

@ek9max speculates that internally the mouse might have a newer version of Bluetooth. This seems likely. Can anyone confirm this? the previous Magic Mouse (sold separately) I think used Bluetooth 3.0 -- does the current one use 5.x? If so maybe we can expect fewer dropped connections.
 
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My rechargeable Apple bluetooth keyboard's letters are wearing off after less than a year of use. If Apple can't get the basics right, I don't have faith a keyboard at 2x the regular price is worth it.
Luckily mine hasn’t rubbed off yet, and I use it several times a day. Sometimes for many hours at a time.

Just for the sake of curiosity, does sweat and finger oil contribute to this, or is it from cheap paint/engineering?
 
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You mention nuance yet completely missed mine - citing what prices used to be is meaningless in an inflationary world and gives the image of someone more likely to yell at kids to get off his lawn than the image of someone who understands product evolution and pricing.

Facts:

Yes, you are correct. Product pricing for well differentiated / non-commodity goods is far more a function of consumer willingness to pay than it is a function of cost. Apple is pricing these additional models with an eye to upcharging for the added functionality. Which is another reason your comment of remembering when Apple sold wireless keyboards for $69 is specious at best.

I think many of the commenters here haven't stopped to think that they don't have to buy the TouchID versions of the keyboards if doing so wouldn't be a benefit to them.
I should make clear, the original comment was not my own. I was commenting on your reply. It seemed a bit short to me, and I replied in kind.

Apologies for the tension. I tend to become irate needlessly. It's problematic.

Comparing past tech products to current tech products, price-wise, seems silly to me on many fronts.
 
Very interesting observation. Apple's web page for the Magic Mouse has a little red "NEW" label at the top, indicating it's a new product. Consistent with this, it's available only online (at least currently), and not in any of its physical stores.

Indeed, from Apple's product photos the mouse doesn't appear to be any different. The one difference I can see is that the lightning to USB cable is now braided (it's also USB-C, not USB-A).

@ek9max speculates that internally the mouse might have a newer version of Bluetooth. This seems likely. Can anyone confirm this? the previous Magic Mouse (sold separately) I think used Bluetooth 3.0 -- does the current one use 5.x? If so maybe we can expect fewer dropped connections.
The Mouse is also a little more rounded around the edges.
 
Will this one work reliably or drop connection as well?
I guess it depends on how many ports you use, how far any interfering devices are from your computer, whether or not you use a hub, etc. You know, stuff we love to deal with just to use a keyboard. 😔
 
If the ask was for Apple to release this at any price, then you have a point.
You can't complain about something not being available for purchase and then have the audacity to complain about the price after the manufacturer releases said product at the price they prefer to sell it.

My favorite ones are when Apple releases a new product or service that's not available in all countries at launch. The usual "What about the UK?" shouters go off the deep end complaining. Weeks later Apple releases said product or service in their country and then the UK shouters complain about this nonsensical "Apple Tax" when it's really the fault of their country's VAT that's inflating the price.

I mean if you want something bad enough that's not available to you then don't complain about the price when it becomes available. That's under the category of expecting your cake and eating it too.
 
I should make clear, the original comment was not my own. I was commenting on your reply. It seemed a bit short to me, and I replied in kind.

Apologies for the tension. I tend to become irate needlessly. It's problematic.

Comparing past tech products to current tech products, price-wise, seems silly to me on many fronts.
I missed the switch in who was posting, my apologies for that. I suspect we're fundamentally on the same page; what prior tech cost isn't necessarily relevant when a new option is released with new features. Particularly when there's no other device providing the new feature(s), and the prior option without the new feature remains available at the same price it'd been at.
 
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so I can just buy this new keyboard with TouchID and use it with my Mac Mini M1?

will it allow multiple fingerprints(from 2 or 3 different people in the family) to log into the same account?

thanks!

Product page lists M1 mini compatibility.

While yes in theory different people's fingerprints ought to be able to be registered to an account, that's not really best practice. I can see where a special case (parent access to child's account) makes sense though.
 
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Apparently you do.

Logitech website seems to only show black...

Dunno about ugly or not, haven't looked at it closely.

There's an MX for Mac keyboard that's Space Gray, not black.

 
My MacBook Air already has it. I'm replacing a Magic Keyboard that I just don't like the key-feel of, but it's easy enough to reach up to the laptop for Touch ID.
As you use your MBA open vs in clamshell, I'd say you probably aren't the target market for buying the TouchID version vs the non-TouchID keyboard version.

If my existing magic keybd were to fail I might spend the extra, but no real reason to do so right now since I keep my MBP open as you do.
 
or is it from cheap paint/engineering?
Cheap paint? The symbols are laser engraved. My old Apple keyboard is over 10 years old, I've used it every day and it looks like new.
Why are you saying a new keyboard is expensive? I recently bought a new keyboard (Varmilo Vintage Days) for $205, so Apple's keyboard is even cheap 😅
 
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Cheap paint? The symbols are laser engraved. My old Apple keyboard is over 10 years old, I've used it every day and it looks like new.
Why are you saying a new keyboard is expensive? I recently bought a new keyboard (Varmilo Vintage Days) for $205, so Apple's keyboard is even cheap 😅
I was asking because the guy said his keys rubbed off quickly. I didn’t say anything about the price.
 
I have to wonder. Do you guys really sit in the dark all evening long just to use your backlighted keyboard? If so, don't you think a table lamp could do the job too? I have never had the desire to use a keyboard in a dark environment. Maybe the forums are full of hackers?! Who knows.
I wonder too. I have LED strip lights that sit behind my monitors that create an appealing glow. I always keep my overhead lights off, and can see everything around my monitors like my keyboard and mouse. Only about $20 at Home Depot. And it reduces eye strain immensely.

(This is just an example picture I found on the internet. I have a 3 monitor setup and use a light-blue glow that only appears under the monitors and in the part of the desk where my keyboard, mouse and trackpad are - not all around like in the picture)

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This is DUMB, it ONLY works w/Apple Silicon, not Intel based Macs! Also it provides no LED backlighting at this price point! FAIL.

it also works with intel macs. The only thing that doesn’t work with intel macs is the touchid.

What is the point of backlit keys? people who know how to type never look at their keyboards.
 
This is a typical Macrumors thread, where Apple releases something and many people start posting how bad it is, or how expensive it is, or even worse, how much better another competing product of another company is.

Some of you are also complaining about the TouchID being an Apple Silicon feature only.
I would say that it's a good move from Apple to start selling these keyboards, and I would like them to start selling all colored keyboards and trackpads too, so that it will be easier for M1 iMac owners to get additional accessories for their computer.
I had to call Apple Support to order a pink Magic Trackpad. This process works, but it is much easier if the item in question is available on the AppleStore.
 
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