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Try doing your own googling, I could find lots of articles on people asking about getting their phone overheating when used as a sat nav.

So the iPhone was not designed to be used as a sat nav on the dash of an air conditioned car? Nice to know that.
Pity that my dedicated sat nav can do this with ease. Can't innovate my ass.

Why not just replace the iPhone with that sat nav if its more capable at everything the iPhone can do?!
 
Why not just replace the iPhone with that sat nav if its more capable at everything the iPhone can do?!

Please....seriously....don’t encourage him...

There are so many simple solutions that he just doesn’t want to utilize and instead wants to blame Apple....in a thread about Maps software. (Although...I’m now dying to know what car he drives and what he does for a living that has him driving in the hot direct sunlight all day).

Solution #248 - use a windshield suction mount at the top of the windshield so the phone is still in front of you but out of any direct sunlight.
 
The data they are collecting is much better than Google's and will be easier to catch up...and look better...and operate better. Apple's main limitation right now is reliance on third party data suppliers for routing, map data, POI data. They are doing it themselves now...just like Google!

It's not just a bad POI database. It's not being able to find places in the POI DB.

my synagogue is next door to a mosque, about 20 minutes from my house. If I look at the map, both are shown, with their names. If I put the mosque's name in the search field, it finds it. If I put my synagogue's name, it only finds 1, a good 500 miles away.
 
It's not just a bad POI database. It's not being able to find places in the POI DB.

my synagogue is next door to a mosque, about 20 minutes from my house. If I look at the map, both are shown, with their names. If I put the mosque's name in the search field, it finds it. If I put my synagogue's name, it only finds 1, a good 500 miles away.

Yeah...the parsing has always been bad, but it seems to have a lot to do with pulling from multiple databases and tying to the mapping software.

That SHOULD be fixed with the new system, but I'll need to see that myself before believing it as this has been the biggest issue for most IMHO.
 
No, my response is realistic of the matter at hand. If you are using a service that is not your own, it can be logged.

Obviously people should exercise due diligence in what information they are willing to give up. Read the fine print and modify your settings if you want to use those respective services. Google surprisingly has less data on me than Apple based on the data dump.


You're not understanding how data mining by Google works. To begin with, Google is amassing data on you that never appears in "your dump," e.g.,. if you aren't blocking their trackers on Macrumors site as you read this, they are tracking and collecting everything you do on this website and then using that to follow you across the web, and assigning it to your universal identifier numbers based on your IP address, etc. , but Google doesn't consider that part of your "Google account." If you sent an email to someone who has a gmail address that information has been scanned, but again, doesn't show up in your Google data dump. If you are using Google photos, they don't remind you that they retain a world wide perpetual license to use those photos and have that information linked to you, and your family, forever, but that doesn't show up in your Google account. The contacts that they vacuumed up don't show up in your Google account. Ditto, your docs uploaded to Google docs. See how this is really working?

The above should get you motivated to read and research this topic further. Good luck.
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LoL a mountain of assumptions to counter the simple facts I've stated.


"Mountain of assumptions" equals facts that Apple has reported in mapping apps usage on iOS. And yes, it is an assumption that hundreds of millions of people are not irrational enough to keep using a mapping service that "sucks" when they have several free alternatives that take less than a minute to download.
 
I never said iPhones overheat at higher rates than other phones, I have no other phone to compare to.
I do know that my dedicated sat nav has no problems on my dashboard.

I have three places I can mount my phone in my car
1) Windscreen - over heats
2) Dashboard - overheats
3) dash vent - blocks the air to my face.

I live in Australia and all places I mount my phone in my car is in direct sunlight apart from the vents but I like to keep them free to keep me cool.

I have other devices that work on the dash too - hands free device and that doesn't shutdown because of the heat.

The car is also aircon cooled to 24C so the iPhone should work.

You missed the CD player slot. I mount my phone there. Last week, I made a 2 hour trip, outside temp of 35C. never had my phone overheat.
 
You missed the CD player slot. I mount my phone there. Last week, I made a 2 hour trip, outside temp of 35C. never had my phone overheat.
Yeah seen mounts for those, pretty cool. But too low down in my cars.

Was thinking of 3D printing a fan mount to suck air up from the vent to the back of the phone to cool it. Bit like a straw sucking air up...
 
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You're not understanding how data mining by Google works. To begin with, Google is amassing data on you that never appears in "your dump," e.g.,. if you aren't blocking their trackers on Macrumors site as you read this, they are tracking and collecting everything you do on this website and then using that to follow you across the web, and assigning it to your universal identifier numbers based on your IP address, etc. , but Google doesn't consider that part of your "Google account." If you sent an email to someone who has a gmail address that information has been scanned, but again, doesn't show up in your Google data dump. If you are using Google photos, they don't remind you that they retain a world wide perpetual license to use those photos and have that information linked to you, and your family, forever, but that doesn't show up in your Google account. The contacts that they vacuumed up don't show up in your Google account. Ditto, your docs uploaded to Google docs. See how this is really working?

The above should get you motivated to read and research this topic further. Good luck.

I don't really need to research this topic because I do analytics from an implementation level. It's amusing you're trying to lecture about how criminal Google is, when you have absolutely no idea how susceptible you are.

The level of effort is fairly simple. It's easy to bypass people such as yourself who try and block GA via proxy requests. If Macrumors wanted to, they can track you here via their own analytics endpoint even though you disabled ads, and they can still give your information to GA. Along with this information, they can still record your IP address and pass along any cookies you might have in your browser for this domain. You might not see ads if you disable various ad servers, but Google already your information.

There's nothing you can do to prevent this other than disable javascript and disable cookies.

Regarding the actual Google mining, you're completely delusional if you don't think Microsoft, Apple, or <insert tech company> doesn't do the same behind the scenes.

Again, the best practice is to exercise caution when posting content and custom tagging things. You use a public service you can get tracked.
 
Why not just replace the iPhone with that sat nav if its more capable at everything the iPhone can do?!
Why would you respond in such a fashion? Don't you know it is not helpful to respond to all negative views of Apple with comments like "if you don't like it you know what to do", thats what trolls do.
 
Why would you respond in such a fashion? Don't you know it is not helpful to respond to all negative views of Apple with comments like "if you don't like it you know what to do", thats what trolls do.

What? He's saying that the iPhone makes a worse Sat Nav than a Sat Nav. Part of being an adult is buying the best tool for the job. This isn't a case of "if you don't like it, go somewhere else".
 
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But how will he listen to that mix CD he made back in 1998??
So there is only one point of view, I guess you are happy only to see positive views of Apple.

It’s not as if Apple ever has any issues that fans like to push under the carpet.

Like problems with antennae, - but you’re holding it wrong.
Bend gate,
Crud under the keyboard. Nah nothing wrong there. Yet Apple wants to avoid a class action.

Phone overheats in optimal position in sitcom cooled car where other electronic devices work ok. Response - it’s not designed as a sat mac, etc

Ps better to address someone directly
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What? He's saying that the iPhone makes a worse Sat Nav than a Sat Nav. Part of being an adult is buying the best tool for the job. This isn't a case of "if you don't like it, go somewhere else".
No, he was being facetious.
People who don’t like negative views of Apple always respond with comments like if it can’t do x when it should, go elsewhere.
Rather than constructive comments like have you tried x
 
"We don't think there's anybody doing this level of work that we're doing," adds Cue.

Russian 2GIS app did it for years and even more. It shows any bulding, any business in any building, any info on any business, its working hours, phone numbers, shows if it accepts cash or credit cards, etc. Not to mention navigation and public transportation features. And it works offline.

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My CD mount is at the top of the dash. it's almost like a dash mount. And today it was in the low 30s up here. Yes, the phone got hot. But never hot enough to shut down. Then again, I keep my car around 20-21.

SatNav is a resource intensive application. It needs the CPU to recalculate the route and CPU/GPU to constantly redraw the display. That's why it gets hot. That's why it sucks the battery dry. A dedicated unit will have it's hardware and software optimized to do one thing.
 
So there is only one point of view, I guess you are happy only to see positive views of Apple.

It’s not as if Apple ever has any issues that fans like to push under the carpet.

Like problems with antennae, - but you’re holding it wrong.
Bend gate,
Crud under the keyboard. Nah nothing wrong there. Yet Apple wants to avoid a class action.

Phone overheats in optimal position in sitcom cooled car where other electronic devices work ok. Response - it’s not designed as a sat mac, etc

Ps better to address someone directly
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No, he was being facetious.
People who don’t like negative views of Apple always respond with comments like if it can’t do x when it should, go elsewhere.
Rather than constructive comments like have you tried x

Oh please...almost every response on here to your ridiculous posts were trying to either get info on how you are using or offering up solutions which the rest of us have used successfully.

Your only response is that the phone HAS to be used on your dash in direct sunlight in an environment that is typically 35-degrees.

Don’t be surprised then when folks respond in kind about you being screwed.

And honestly, mounting a phone on the dash is not the most common area because of the reasons you state. If the Uber rides I take while traveling every single week are any indication, vent mount is number one. Windshield mount is a distant second.

Why? Because the phone mounts are more stable in those locations. AND...both of those locations allow the phone to be visible while keeping them out of the sunlight.
 
So there is only one point of view, I guess you are happy only to see positive views of Apple.

It’s not as if Apple ever has any issues that fans like to push under the carpet.

Like problems with antennae, - but you’re holding it wrong.
Bend gate,
Crud under the keyboard. Nah nothing wrong there. Yet Apple wants to avoid a class action.

Phone overheats in optimal position in sitcom cooled car where other electronic devices work ok. Response - it’s not designed as a sat mac, etc

Ps better to address someone directly
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No, he was being facetious.
People who don’t like negative views of Apple always respond with comments like if it can’t do x when it should, go elsewhere.
Rather than constructive comments like have you tried x

What’s your solution? If you know it gets hot in the one spot you want to put it, you can’t use it. That’s not rocket science. That’s simple logic. Either get a Sat Nav or find somewhere else to put it. Those are, literally, the only solutions.
 
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What’s your solution? If you know it gets hot in the one spot you want to put it, you can’t use it. That’s not rocket science. That’s simple logic. Either get a Sat Nav or find somewhere else to out it. Those are, literally, the only solutions.

Get ready for the “typical response of an Apple Fanboi” answer...that’s what you get for responding logically to this guy.
 
Get ready for the “typical response of an Apple Fanboi” answer...that’s what you get for responding logically to this guy.

I’d say that if he were asking on an Android forum about a Pixel 2 XL. I don’t care what he gets, really. I don’t care if he likes it or not. But I don’t buy a screw driver and complain about how it doesn’t work with my nails.
 
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I tend to believe it. I have run into an apple maps van driving around on three different occasions over the past two weeks. These were all in suburban areas of Kansas City, once in my own neighborhood. Van looked identical to this.
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I saw one in Sioux Falls, SD today.
 
To those waxing on, and on, and on, and on ad nauseam about the accuracy of "GPS" please, please, please just give it up. Just stop already, really - all of you, please? For some of you, you've read that I have a decent background in maps and surveying, it's what I do and have done for around 30 frickin' years. I can understand Apple for taking the slow road regarding mapping, largely due to issues related to accuracy - issues addressed by one major development last year that I posted about here several months ago.

I can't fault the frustration related by others. I have used the newer GPSS L5/E5 tech, and being able to nail a location from the previous 30-foot precision to 30cm (1 foot) is pretty much a revelation.

When Apple includes the newer Broadcom GPS chipset with L5/E5 access and enables cellular aggregation - simultaneously - I'll pretty much never need a standalone GPS device ever again.

I ran my first survey chain in 1989. I used my first L5-capable total station a year ago. They're both pretty accurate. My fieldwork took 7 hours in 1989, roughly 4 minutes last year. If Apple's next iPhone includes the Broadcom BCM47755, TomTom should just wrap it up and go home. The dual-band BCM47755 chipset is that good (but you won't be able to fry an egg on your iPhone any more!).
 
To those waxing on, and on, and on, and on ad nauseam about the accuracy of "GPS" please, please, please just give it up. Just stop already, really - all of you, please? For some of you, you've read that I have a decent background in maps and surveying, it's what I do and have done for around 30 frickin' years. I can understand Apple for taking the slow road regarding mapping, largely due to issues related to accuracy - issues addressed by one major development last year that I posted about here several months ago.

I can't fault the frustration related by others. I have used the newer GPSS L5/E5 tech, and being able to nail a location from the previous 30-foot precision to 30cm (1 foot) is pretty much a revelation.

When Apple includes the newer Broadcom GPS chipset with L5/E5 access and enables cellular aggregation - simultaneously - I'll pretty much never need a standalone GPS device ever again.

I ran my first survey chain in 1989. I used my first L5-capable total station a year ago. They're both pretty accurate. My fieldwork took 7 hours in 1989, roughly 4 minutes last year. If Apple's next iPhone includes the Broadcom BCM47755, TomTom should just wrap it up and go home. The dual-band BCM47755 chipset is that good (but you won't be able to fry an egg on your iPhone any more!).

Were people complaining about GPS accuracy??

I missed that.

I’ve never had an issue with Maps GPS.

And btw...I love your detailed posts about mapping. Thanks for commenting on this stuff. I’m just a fan of mapping because I use them so much with travel. But getting the detailed background around how it happens (more than I’ve learned on my own) is really interesting.
 
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